3D vs 2D

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To the devs, or if anybody else knows, Are any of the backgrounds or terrain rendered from 3D models? Also is there any particular tool you use to render the character/enemies as sprites? Was there much manual clean-up involved?

[*Yuki*]

I think, its like it works in factorio - everything is 2D, but models originally was 3D

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Originally posted by *Yuki*:

I think, its like it works in factorio - everything is 2D, but models originally was 3D

I get that; I'm asking the devs, or if anybody else knows (possibly from dev diaries or something) what the process of that is. i.e whether they just render the models in an ortho view from their modeling/anim software with a flat shaader and no AA, or if there is some other specific tool that does it, or if they're actually 3D in game and the games engine is renderingg them in a 2D style (though that seems unlikely as a lot of the enemies are flat when they flip horizontally.)

[Darkness]

You actually got me curious, and I looked for this everywhere on their blog posts (both game and developer), and didn't find anything.

Some weapon animations really look like 3D, specially the beggining of the Spear attack, the depth sense is incredible: https://static.dead-cells.com/data/presskit/gif/boss.gif

I'd inclined to say they used at least a pre-rendered 3D with some shaders over or used as a skeleton, perhaps manually brushed, I don't really know. Otherwise, if everything is hand-drawn, they have a true artist for those 2D sprite animations.

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Originally posted by Darkness:

You actually got me curious, and I looked for this everywhere on their blog posts (both game and developer), and didn't find anything.

Some weapon animations really look like 3D, specially the beggining of the Spear attack, the depth sense is incredible: https://static.dead-cells.com/data/presskit/gif/boss.gif

I'd inclined to say they used at least a pre-rendered 3D with some shaders over or used as a skeleton, perhaps manually brushed, I don't really know. Otherwise, if everything is hand-drawn, they have a true artist for those 2D sprite animations.

They definitely have 3D character / monster sprites, so it would make sense for other sprites to be 3D. I'm just curious as to the process from 3D model to in game sprite.

[*Yuki*]

Originally posted by >:(:

I'm just curious as to the process from 3D model to in game sprite.

is it that hard? Just pose it, as you wish, and then make screenshots (I know, that its more complex, but, if talking simple - its works kinda like that). Iirc factorio devs explained better, how they did models in blender, then turned them into animations/sprites and post-processed with some photoshop. But, sadly, I cant find this anymore, as it was answer in comments for one of updates - not post on forum

[EskimoTruffle]

The dev answers some of this here
http://steamcommunity.com/app/588650/discussions/0/2741975115060630076/

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Originally posted by EskimoTruffle:

The dev answers some of this here
http://steamcommunity.com/app/588650/discussions/0/2741975115060630076/

oh cool, thanks.

[ventrix]

Bone animations in 2d is pretty easy and prevents the need of doing frame animations, i.e. drawing every single frame.
The 3d pre rendering is completely unnecessary, but ofc it all depends on the team's skill and the toolset they're used to.