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Thomas Croft 2018 年 3 月 26 日 上午 10:36
2 Cells is extremely hard for new players!
So I spent like a hundred hours with this game I got all my runes it was really good than it was time to get to the next level and get the boss cells.
The first one was hard but okay it felt really good. Okay time to get the next one.
Started upgrading my weapons to ++ in the meantime got my second cell. Everything felt good.
Than I activated my the second cell grabbed my starting crap and the first mob almost one shot me with my 100 HP right at the beginning!
I watched a few videos how people manage this and of course all I see that all his items are upgraded to S level. They grab the starting crap and almost have 700 hp right at the beginning.
But that not the best part. I Think Im good at this game against all odds with all my unupgraded crap I managed to fight the HoTK a couple of times.
But eventually Im getting destroyed becouse the healing flask is broken right before the Hand.
I mean Fcking seriously? Im getting a heal flask before the Assasin after the Assasin but not for the most dificcult boss of the game? only on 2 cells?
The castle is hard becouse there are some fcked up situations where you loosing some of your healt no matter what so eventually I pop up some healing which means I have only 1 or 2 flask for the fcking hardest boss of the game. I would understanbd this on 3 or 4 cells but on fcking 2? Seriously?!?! My last run I had 11K health 70% damage reduction and only 1 flask left for the boss I managed to pass thru the 2 elites phase but just simply ran out of health.
This is not right! I like hard games but a more than 1 hour run just getting fcked becouse no flask left for the hardest fight is nonsense.
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sbm311 2018 年 3 月 27 日 下午 1:23 
引用自 Thomas Croft
Oh pls you all masters of all pls let me pray for you and be blesse with your shadow.
As I said before I'm not hardcore player. I play for a couple of hours in the evening.
引用自 Thomas Croft
I wish to see you doing that like me with wife, job, kids I often finish a 1 hour run with 3 seperate occasions I dont have all the time in the world.
70 hours played in the last two weeks... more than my 20 hours... also with daily worries. Over time, you will become better at coping with the game, keep playing and you will understand what I'm talking about. All the best.
lilac 2018 年 3 月 27 日 下午 2:05 
引用自 Thomas Croft

when you consider the fact im playing on keyboard so no looking around for me and the inqisitors have higher range than how far I can see.

this is sth. that i saw being asked for in another post, the option to get look around bindings on keyboard and mouse and i agree it should be an option, playing on keyboard and mouse myself, but being blessed with this game having excellent 16:10 support as it ads vertical viewing distance instead of cropping i rarely have the off screen inqui or other stuff issue.

and in regards to not having a refill before hotk, it would possibly make it to easy and with not having a refill before hotk, it makes the castle run more meaningful, i would be for maybe giving u 2 health pots before castle and 1 before hotk, so getting drained down on health through castle is a bit more forgiving.

BUT it's definitely doable, the biggest thing for me going through 3 cell difficulty, where u have even less healing! was to have one ice grenade and cooldown reduction.
u can freeze anything and a frantic sword and a heavy turret will kill it easy, then stack multiplier damage like damage on burning, or damage on poison etc... to get the hand down quick enough.
what really sounds annoying is 4 cell difficulty without any health refills :steamsad:
no fan of that.

having an ice grenade or frost bow or some opening cc will save u on enough health potions and then u're ready to kill the hand of the king.
also u're supposed to have ++ weapons when u have been fighting on 2 cells for a bit, so u won't start with 100 hp!!
if u only get stat upgrades on a few items, that u have upgraded, then just reroll starting items till u get them.
and u can just check where to farm the gastronomy (double health from food) mutation on the wiki to help u.

and yes due to the game being early access a lot of players have s weapons without having earned them through hotk and wrongly judge balance through that, i got my first boss cell from hotk like u, so as someone that felt the same of being drained through castle without health potions left, take my advice and use some crowd control like ice grenade and just keep trying.

also for the starting area, u should regularly be able to leave without being hit at all and get at least 2 scrolls! don't kill ♥♥♥♥ u don't need to kill and be out of it for the first timed door.
最后由 lilac 编辑于; 2018 年 3 月 27 日 下午 2:07
nairobi 2018 年 3 月 28 日 上午 5:16 
2 Cells is extremely hard for new players!
Nightmare difficulty in Doom is extremely hard for new players! WHYYY
dawntorch 2018 年 3 月 28 日 上午 9:11 
引用自 alaah
2 Cells is extremely hard for new players!
Nightmare difficulty in Doom is extremely hard for new players! WHYYY
Thomas Croft 2018 年 3 月 28 日 下午 4:58 
I finished the 3 cell run on my first try with the S upgraded stuff. Literally killed the hand the first time I got to the castle.
So newsflash all of you can keep your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ get bettre its not for you bla bla bla.
3 cells run to get the forth cell was 100 times easier than the 2 cells run.
All of you can suck ♥♥♥♥.
dawntorch 2018 年 3 月 28 日 下午 5:26 
引用自 Thomas Croft
I finished the 3 cell run on my first try with the S upgraded stuff. Literally killed the hand the first time I got to the castle.
So newsflash all of you can keep your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ get bettre its not for you bla bla bla.
3 cells run to get the forth cell was 100 times easier than the 2 cells run.
All of you can suck ♥♥♥♥.

Or could it be that you've just got better at the game while struggling on the lower difficulties?
最后由 dawntorch 编辑于; 2018 年 3 月 28 日 下午 5:27
sbm311 2018 年 3 月 28 日 下午 9:06 
引用自 Thomas Croft
I finished the 3 cell run on my first try with the S upgraded stuff. Literally killed the hand the first time I got to the castle.
So newsflash all of you can keep your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ get bettre its not for you bla bla bla.
3 cells run to get the forth cell was 100 times easier than the 2 cells run.
All of you can suck ♥♥♥♥.
And these are the brave words of an adult family man... what a shame.

And now look at my previous post, it took not much time and you got better in the game. As expected by other people too. But you did not understand this and wrote this "wonderful" post.
Thomas Croft 2018 年 3 月 28 日 下午 11:59 
引用自 sbm311
引用自 Thomas Croft
I finished the 3 cell run on my first try with the S upgraded stuff. Literally killed the hand the first time I got to the castle.
So newsflash all of you can keep your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ get bettre its not for you bla bla bla.
3 cells run to get the forth cell was 100 times easier than the 2 cells run.
All of you can suck ♥♥♥♥.
And these are the brave words of an adult family man... what a shame.

And now look at my previous post, it took not much time and you got better in the game. As expected by other people too. But you did not understand this and wrote this "wonderful" post.
I did not get any better at all thats my point exactly. The first run when I was lucky enough to get the upgrded S items I like to use I went thru literally nothing could stop me.
Again I DID NOT GET BETTER. simply 2 cells simply make people quit and thats the whole point becouse the game suppose to be increasing difficulty but the 2 cells is actually harder than the other 2 but poeple will never know if they get fed up with ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and quit on 2 cells.
Just look at the Achivement stats many people get 2 cells but never reach 3. Numbers dont lie.
And of course I Start cursing and stuff when I get fed up but your idiotic comments.
QuantumRyze 2018 年 11 月 22 日 上午 9:48 
引用自 {St} Waylllop
引用自 Thomas Croft
The thing is many players got their S items way before the Hand was introduced

So we get the blame for simply playing the game the way it was polished back in the day?

Don't blame on us what is cearly your fault for being not good enough to beat the game in it's middle difficult setting.

Wtf...? As the famous words of Tropic thunder, you just went full ♥♥♥♥♥♥ son! Never go full ♥♥♥♥♥♥!
PhilkIced 2018 年 11 月 22 日 上午 11:31 
I'm not going to argue into if 2 cells is way too hard or not because I just recently reached 1 cell and haven't killed hotk with it yet so I don't even have 2 cells, but this is important for my point because I don't feel like a new player anymore, so isn't this thread kind of a contradiction? You can't get 2 cells AND be a new player, those are mutually exclusive.
Krampus 2018 年 11 月 22 日 下午 12:18 
引用自 Quasar
7% of players have unlocked 2 Boss Cells
2% of players have unlocked 3 Boss Cells

I beat 2 Boss Cells many months ago, back when it was much easier. The latest update removed the vast majority of the healing flasks therefore making it much harder. I could probably beat it again if I reeeeeally wanted, but I'm not going to joke about how much harder it is.

In short, don't look for sympathy here. At most, you'll just get haughty backlash from the 2% of people who've managed to beat 2 Boss Cells. Naturally, they will pretend it's easy, tell you to "git gud", when in actuality they are the extreme minority of people who play the ♥♥♥♥ out of this game, and have therefore lost all sense of relative difficulty.

2 Boss Cells is incredibly difficult. Particularly for people who don't live, breathe and eat this game.

I got 152 hours in the game and 50 of those were way back when watcher was the final boss.
Haven't played in a while but iirc i'm halfway through upgrading ++ and i haven't even touched S yet.
That say 1 and 2 Cell difficulty was a breeze and 3C was a slight nuissance.
After that i got bored of grinding cells but still...
Either i'm a god (which i HIGHLY doubt) or all of you people complaining that it's impossible until you get S tier items might just have to admit that you're not as good as you think you are.
Thomas Croft 2018 年 11 月 22 日 下午 1:26 
Im suprised this thread came up couse I posted it looong time ago and a lot changed since so not even sure its still a thing.
Gem of Temporarity 2018 年 11 月 23 日 下午 12:27 
引用自 Thomas Croft
Im suprised this thread came up couse I posted it looong time ago and a lot changed since so not even sure its still a thing.
Even less healing.
nightshift 2018 年 11 月 24 日 下午 7:46 
Anyone reaching 2 cell mode should not be considered a new player.
Keegan 2018 年 11 月 28 日 上午 8:23 
Honestly I don't have that much issue with the "no heal flask" in 2 cells.
The damage from spikes is another thing. I just got a failed run because I did ONE mistake. Getting one shot by one mistake at 2 cells is ridiculous in my opinion... Just because one spike-ball chain-hits me without any possibility to move.... (more precisely, I was above spikes, it did ball/spike/ball damges so 3 hits in 0.5 seconds)

That's pure ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥...
About the health, it's not THAT bad if you are careful. One hit is manageable. I tend to take the mutation healing you when killing enemies. As one enemy out of 150-200 hits you if you're not too careful, the +3-5 health per enemy killed is enough to not need flask outside of huge mistake.
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