This is almost the exact game I've been waiting for

[Wizard_of_Nozs]

I've been waiting so long for a dungeon crawler that you can play single player or with friends that has a set loot system and is not procedurally generated. The only thing more I would want is an entire world. Something akin to skyrim, but with the ability to have a LFG system for groups and coop.

There are a few games that scratch the itch. Valheim comes to mind but it doesn't have a story, lore which gives games like that character. There are plenty of single player games that do it well but don't give the option for LFG systems or even coop. Then when asked for it, you get the generic response of ''not every game needs coop''. What a terrible answer to having an option.

Of course every game doesnt need it, but there are a ton of games where it would make it 100% better.

Anyways. Great game, keep up the good work!

[Shev]

Well, the loot is procedurally generated, sorta like in a Diablo game. Everytime you open a chest or kill a monster, different gear/items with different bonuses are generated from a database; bigger bosses can drop some pretty slick loot all the same though, and the 'pattern system' for crafting specific set pieces is always a good way to give players the ability to 'spec' into a role better.

Agreed, it's a great game, I've held off on playing it too much before release so I wouldn't get burnt out, lvl 8 as a Lizardman cleric(swapped from the original human); hammer and shield. Looking forward to trying out afew other classes to see how they play.

[Wizard_of_Nozs]

Ah is it? I was thinking that it was a specific loot table. That is kind of disheartening, but i mean it's still closer than most to what I'm looking for lol. I love these types of games.

[Trup]

Bosses have specific loot tables. Most other loot sources are random.

[Wootey]

Originally posted by Wizard_of_Nozs:

The only thing more I would want is an entire world. Something akin to skyrim, but with the ability to have a LFG system for groups and coop.

Sounds like you're looking for an MMO. I agree this game would be really good with a whole world to explore.

[Randy]

Are there any plans to introduce a 3d map for the town?

[Big Boss]

LOL thinking this game has story or lore. It's at best a mobile Wow port without the overworld and if every dungeon was attached at the hip.

[Wizard_of_Nozs]

Originally posted by Wootey:

Originally posted by Wizard_of_Nozs:

The only thing more I would want is an entire world. Something akin to skyrim, but with the ability to have a LFG system for groups and coop.

Sounds like you're looking for an MMO. I agree this game would be really good with a whole world to explore.

No, what I want is a personal world with lore im able to explore with a solid LFG system and the ability to bring in my friends for coop or have the entire thing to myself that has a set loot system. I believe MMOs are a thing of the past and this is the system we'll eventually move to.

[_Fell]

Originally posted by Wizard_of_Nozs:

No, what I want is a personal world with lore im able to explore with a solid LFG system and the ability to bring in my friends for coop or have the entire thing to myself that has a set loot system. I believe MMOs are a thing of the past and this is the system we'll eventually move to.

*doesnt want an mmo, proceeds to describe an mmo*

World of warcraft just announced three expansions, on top of a reimagined take on vanilla wow, as well as cataclysm classic. FFXIV won an award last year for best ongoing game. Guild wars 2 is still going strong despite the tough competition. Just because game mills arent churning out freemium mmo after freemium mmo anymore doesnt mean the genre is ancient history.

what youre looking for is a 3rd person ARPG, like hellgate london, remnant 1 and 2, or even modded skyrim with Skyrim Together.

[Squirt Games]

Originally posted by Shev:

Well, the loot is procedurally generated, sorta like in a Diablo game. Everytime you open a chest or kill a monster, different gear/items with different bonuses are generated from a database; bigger bosses can drop some pretty slick loot all the same though, and the 'pattern system' for crafting specific set pieces is always a good way to give players the ability to 'spec' into a role better.

Agreed, it's a great game, I've held off on playing it too much before release so I wouldn't get burnt out, lvl 8 as a Lizardman cleric(swapped from the original human); hammer and shield. Looking forward to trying out afew other classes to see how they play.

i assumed that's what was happening, the loot doesn't feel set at all in the sense of consistency. But I LOVE that :D this in many wasys feels like third person diablo, and that's a game ive actually been waiting for since originally playing d3.

[tankanidis]

i'm really enjoying this game, jankiness and all

Is my 'exceeded my expectations on fun' game of 2023 (have over 1k games so it stands out)

[Wizard_of_Nozs]

Originally posted by _Fell:

Originally posted by Wizard_of_Nozs:

No, what I want is a personal world with lore im able to explore with a solid LFG system and the ability to bring in my friends for coop or have the entire thing to myself that has a set loot system. I believe MMOs are a thing of the past and this is the system we'll eventually move to.

*doesnt want an mmo, proceeds to describe an mmo*

World of warcraft just announced three expansions, on top of a reimagined take on vanilla wow, as well as cataclysm classic. FFXIV won an award last year for best ongoing game. Guild wars 2 is still going strong despite the tough competition. Just because game mills arent churning out freemium mmo after freemium mmo anymore doesnt mean the genre is ancient history.

what youre looking for is a 3rd person ARPG, like hellgate london, remnant 1 and 2, or even modded skyrim with Skyrim Together.

Not really. There are zero mmos with actual action type combat which is much easily doable without the massive part of that. While it may be very similar to an MMO, there are key differences that are easier to attain. I've played MMO's since the early 90's. I'm not looking for that as most of them have lost the functionality they began with that made them so entertaining in the first place. I'm sorry if you can't understand that. There are MMO's which try for it, but fall short in dramatic fashion. There are plenty of single player games which hit the mark, but refuse to have the features a lot of communities have been asking for without us creating the mods necessary to accomplish this ourselves.

The game Godfall does actually come close and was fun for a long time. Even with the bugs which came with it, though you can't really call that a true open world game and not a true single player game at all with it's always online requirements.

Also I never said MMOS were ancient history. I said that I believe that we're moving away from those type of open world games as companies see that you can accomplish much the same thing but with better mechanics and hitting both target audiences (mmo types and single player lovers) with a much less minimal constant impact with cheating, gold farmers etc. The evidence is shown in the much lack of new solid MMO's within the last 15 years and the overflow of games which tide to the prior described with a growing number growing towards the designed mentioned.

Especially seeing as the top MMO is currently from the realms of 2004. That's not to say there aren't other that aren't bad, thats just to say that the top ones are aged at best, and all are hindered with many issues that are either glossed over or paved over with features that get you to try and turn a blind eye to them.

[_Fell]

MMOs arent dying, you are just losing interest. TERA (rip, private servers only), Black Desert, New World, Guild Wars 2, Elder Scrolls Online, Blade & Soul, the upcoming Throne And Liberty, Phantasy Star online 2, Neverwinter; All MMOs without tab targeting.

[Wizard_of_Nozs]

Originally posted by _Fell:

MMOs arent dying, you are just losing interest. TERA (rip, private servers only), Black Desert, New World, Guild Wars 2, Elder Scrolls Online, Blade & Soul, the upcoming Throne And Liberty, Phantasy Star online 2, Neverwinter; All MMOs without tab targeting.

All MMO's which try to fool you into thinking they actually have action combat. Elder Scrolls Online among the worst. All the rest aren't even close to being new other than TL. They're not dying, they just are no longer the future and all but one of those are FAR from close to being new. All of those MMO's also have tab targeting.