Dungeons of Sundaria

Dungeons of Sundaria

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mpcgannon Dec 17, 2023 @ 7:56am
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Reskin game?
The first review I came across accuses the developer of reskinning a previously released game. Regardless of the situation, the response by the developer is enough for me to pass. If you read this, you need to work on your soft skills. You're now customer service and should not engage in forum-troll level bickering.
Originally posted by Trup:
Hi there,

I just wanted to chime in on a few things. Regarding Kings and Heroes, the primary reason it was shut down is because it was a hosted mmo type of online server and we did not have the player base to warrant continued support. We were really excited about the direction of Kings and Heroes, but it was a bit beyond our grasp as a small indie studio. Dungeons of Sundaria is a peer to peer game when playing coop, and so it will be available to play with friends regardless of what happens to us.

For the majority of people that played Kings and Heroes, running dungeons was the primary activity players were engaged with. Dungeons of Sundaria took that experience and expanded upon it to what you see today. And as other people have pointed out, anyone that purchased Kings and Heroes received a free copy of Dungeons of Sundaria.
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Digishade Dec 17, 2023 @ 8:44am 
lmao. If the game's fun, who gives a ♥♥♥♥?
Pokeybones Dec 17, 2023 @ 11:05am 
I agree, one of the best $10 games i ever bought. I'm having a blast,
Mike Dec 17, 2023 @ 11:35am 
Why do words hurt people this much? Unless someone is calling for the bodily harm of you or someone else, just suck it up and and ignore it.

I could careless about a persons "soft skills" because if I bought games base on the morals/opinions of the devs themselves, I would not have a game to my name.

You will be surprised how many games you own that are made by devs who are probably terrible people, but as long as that terrible personality does not bleed through to their product, who cares?
Squirt Games Dec 17, 2023 @ 12:22pm 
Originally posted by mpcgannon:
The first review I came across accuses the developer of reskinning a previously released game. Regardless of the situation, the response by the developer is enough for me to pass. If you read this, you need to work on your soft skills. You're now customer service and should not engage in forum-troll level bickering.
I just went to the same review you went to and if this is an example of someone who lacks "soft skills" then you need to get some tougher skin man, really.

Their response was firm, and came off as a developer defending a product they have some amount of passion for against nasty accusations. I mean really, they didn't even stoop to name calling, the worst they did was accused the consumer of lying and only posting their review out of personal disdain for the development team.

If anything I unironically have more respect for this dev team then I did before being notified about this; now that I know that they've failed in the past to produce something using the same assets with potentially a similar theme, and chose to try again instead of just giving up on development, is very respectable in my eyes.

This also is the type of situation you can't immediately judge a dev for; if the person IS lying, the dev has a right to be annoyed and respond in kind, and if the consumer is being truthful then the developers are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ for getting defensive against the truth.

But, it's your money, enjoy purchasing your video games based on who has "soft skills" and not based on who actually has a spine and defends their creation from people seeking to smear it's reputation. :steamthumbsup:
Last edited by Squirt Games; Dec 17, 2023 @ 12:38pm
BigTony Dec 17, 2023 @ 12:28pm 
I'd rather have indie devs that speak from the bottom of their hearts rather than fake *ss boot lickers that talk softly just to get a few more sales. like Mike said as long as it doesn't get toxic and it doesn't impact the development of the game in a negative way I could care less.
Squirt Games Dec 17, 2023 @ 12:31pm 
Originally posted by Mike:
Why do words hurt people this much? Unless someone is calling for the bodily harm of you or someone else, just suck it up and and ignore it.

I could careless about a persons "soft skills" because if I bought games base on the morals/opinions of the devs themselves, I would not have a game to my name.

You will be surprised how many games you own that are made by devs who are probably terrible people, but as long as that terrible personality does not bleed through to their product, who cares?
It's silly; the game uses a lot of similiar or directly ripped assets from the failed game that review in question mentioned, but I could care less if this is the case; it's good mindless fun for an affordable price, and as far as I can see more content and assets have been added to move itself away from that failed game, so...Pretty silly situation from what I can see.
Last edited by Squirt Games; Dec 17, 2023 @ 12:36pm
Squirt Games Dec 17, 2023 @ 12:32pm 
Originally posted by BigTony:
I'd rather have indie devs that speak from the bottom of their hearts rather than fake *ss boot lickers that talk softly just to get a few more sales. like Mike said as long as it doesn't get toxic and it doesn't impact the development of the game in a negative way I could care less.
Exactly!! I value a craftsman that defends his creation in the face of accusations (assuming they're baseless) instead of kissing up to the person throwing them shade. This is behavior to be appreciated...
tankanidis Dec 17, 2023 @ 11:06pm 
From what i read, those who bought the previous game (that was MMO server based and failed due to server costs) got a free copy when this updated singleplayer/multiplayer non-MMO version was released?

If so that settles things for anyone who had issue in the past as they can still play this version and did not lose their investment due to the free copy handed forward
c0nan666 Dec 17, 2023 @ 11:17pm 
who gives a ♥♥♥♥, its fun.
zombygunner Dec 18, 2023 @ 2:28am 
So it is a re skin ( re used assets ) the game seems very short like only a few hrs. Maybe it is a cash grab. One less amount of money here .
Last edited by zombygunner; Dec 18, 2023 @ 2:28am
KwstaKnight Dec 18, 2023 @ 7:13am 
I don't see how people are calling this a cash grab in the slightest. Owners of the previous title were gifted this title for free. Content has been added and expanded.

It's also $10 on release... they are not trying to dupe anyone. It's a budget title and fun so far for me.
tankanidis Dec 18, 2023 @ 8:13am 
Originally posted by zombygunner:
So it is a re skin ( re used assets ) the game seems very short like only a few hrs. Maybe it is a cash grab. One less amount of money here .

A cash grab is an asset flip with no work / game doesn't function

This game functions. It has 8 dungeons, 3 difficulties, lots of loot, paragon skill system with heroism and i got 23 hours out of it so far with 13.70+AUD purchase

For me that's a good game to buy

You can always try it out for 2 hours and refund it if you don't like it, but to say there's nothing to do without playing it first is speaking without experience
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Trup  [developer] Dec 18, 2023 @ 9:23am 
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Hi there,

I just wanted to chime in on a few things. Regarding Kings and Heroes, the primary reason it was shut down is because it was a hosted mmo type of online server and we did not have the player base to warrant continued support. We were really excited about the direction of Kings and Heroes, but it was a bit beyond our grasp as a small indie studio. Dungeons of Sundaria is a peer to peer game when playing coop, and so it will be available to play with friends regardless of what happens to us.

For the majority of people that played Kings and Heroes, running dungeons was the primary activity players were engaged with. Dungeons of Sundaria took that experience and expanded upon it to what you see today. And as other people have pointed out, anyone that purchased Kings and Heroes received a free copy of Dungeons of Sundaria.
Last edited by Trup; Dec 18, 2023 @ 2:20pm
Dingo Dec 18, 2023 @ 12:23pm 
I also disagree, I think the developer response was completely appropriate, especially to someone claiming such ♥♥♥♥♥♥ accusations. I think they said what needed to be said without making anything personal or engaging in any form of insults.
Squirt Games Dec 18, 2023 @ 3:48pm 
Originally posted by Trup:
Hi there,

I just wanted to chime in on a few things. Regarding Kings and Heroes, the primary reason it was shut down is because it was a hosted mmo type of online server and we did not have the player base to warrant continued support. We were really excited about the direction of Kings and Heroes, but it was a bit beyond our grasp as a small indie studio. Dungeons of Sundaria is a peer to peer game when playing coop, and so it will be available to play with friends regardless of what happens to us.

For the majority of people that played Kings and Heroes, running dungeons was the primary activity players were engaged with. Dungeons of Sundaria took that experience and expanded upon it to what you see today. And as other people have pointed out, anyone that purchased Kings and Heroes received a free copy of Dungeons of Sundaria.
I had a feeling that the accusations levied were baseless and there was more to the story than what we were getting in that review; I hold much respect for your team and am happy I decided to purchase the game. Looking forward to continuing my support in future :FrogChamp:
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