So... modding...

[JeffMakesGames]

How does one go about snooping (as usual) into the stage information files? (Scene1.bin)

[󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡]

Since the update, the only way to do it is the original way by unpacking the RSDK, replacing whatever you want, then repacking it.

[JeffMakesGames]

No no no. How do you "read" the bin file to see like, the scripting or whatever?

Opening it in Notepad++ just shows gibberish.

[Chocice75]

Those files are the stages themselves. Search for the Maniac editor on Google for opening those files. (The Maniac editor is the stage editor for Mania)

[JeffMakesGames]

I looked at that and it doesn't show me any scripting.

[Dax]

what kind of scripting are you looking for?

[JeffMakesGames]

The loop point data to the music files.

[Chocice75]

Originally posted by JeffMakesGames:

I looked at that and it doesn't show me any scripting.

Those files aren't scripting, though. Like I said before, they're stages.
Modifying the loop points will probably require the modloader or a modified EXE file.

You can't modify the game's code without the source code, the modloader or a disassembly, because the game was compiled. Unless you know how to decompile compiled C++ code and then recompile it, the Modloader is your only hope.

[Minka]

You can use the new version of the Maniac Editor/level editor[github.com] and then go File > Open Data Directory and find the Data folder you just extracted, then hit Confirm/Select Folder after going into it.

From there, you can then choose to open any of the scene files, then hit the unclicked Entities tab, and find the varying Music entities per stage, which contain all the looping data. There's a lot of entities, so this can be a pain to navigate through.

Alternatively, you can just open Extras > DA Garden Plus (the new version of the Sound Test menu) in it and you'll have a small list of mostly Music entities to find the looping data.

Alternatively alternatively, I've already done the heavy work for this and noted down the looping data for the new tracks;

AngelIsland2.ogg - LOOP_START=160668
BuddyBeat.ogg - LOOP_START=85232
EncoreMenu.ogg - LOOP_START=1
Pinball.ogg - LOOP_START=661500

For the record, at anyone else popping in here: modding is still possible as it was without the Mania Mod Loader in Data Folder mode. Extract the Data.rsdk, then place the Data folder in Mania's directory then delete/move the Data.rsdk file, and you can just dump mods in the Data folder. We can modify the loop points of music in the stage files themselves, as I've done to put the Casino Night Pinball music from Generations in[gamebanana.com].

[Axanery]

Also make sure that you use our updated extractor - https://github.com/Axanery/rsdkv5_extract/releases/tag/rsdkv5-tools-plus

[Axanery]

Do note that the new scene files may be confusing entity-wise. That is becase every entity has a new "filter" that determines if it shows in Encore Mode, Mania Mode, both, etc. 4 is encore, 2 is mania, 5 is both.

[Zeikar]

Mania Mod Loader hasn't been updated for Plus/Encore DLC yet.

[Axanery]

Originally posted by Zeikar:

Mania Mod Loader hasn't been updated for Plus/Encore DLC yet.

Yep. Use the data folder method. Extract the RSDK and rename the RSDK so that it looks for the folder.

[Zeikar]

Originally posted by Axanery:

Originally posted by Zeikar:

Mania Mod Loader hasn't been updated for Plus/Encore DLC yet.

Yep. Use the data folder method. Extract the RSDK and rename the RSDK so that it looks for the folder.

Yes, the data folder method works for now. Thank goodness modding isn't completely gone!

[Bad Hacker]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/356535892820885505/469239746246475797/ManiaModLoader.dll

We have a version without BASS
:P

[Zeikar]

Originally posted by markhuang15:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/356535892820885505/469239746246475797/ManiaModLoader.dll

We have a version without BASS
:P

What does that mean?