Those who don't buy the game because of Denuvo

[󠀡󠀡 ⁧⁧Darius]

You're very cute and you're missing out.

Denuvo is non-intrusive to customers. It has not caused any issues to any of us who are legitimate. The games that were listed are unoptimized games in general, not a cause of Denuvo. Now sales haven't spiked because of it. Pirates are pirates and most of them won't give a penny over, but some of the minority have caved in and bought the game because they had no other choice.

I know some people personally who refuse to support developers because "Why? I can get the game for free". Hopefully the anti-tamper software becomes more advanced and is used more.

SONIC MANIA - This game's a masterpiece. The soundtrack is out of this world, the visuals are amazing, the gameplay is awesome, the game works very smooth, no controller problems even tho I'm using a cheap gamepad and overall I'm just having a blast. Very good time with this game

P.S. The soundtrack is out of this world...

[Shark Bait]

Originally posted by Darius:

Originally posted by Heavy Shinobi:

I don't know, it seems to attract them. It's really good at getting fools to defend it like it actually serves its role as DRM.

It's not perfect but it has potential. You can argue, guess, prophesize all you want

It has as much potential as a sandwich does at becoming the U.S. president. DRM is not capable of working, pirates have the internet at their disposal and therefor are not limited in resources. DRM will always fail.

[Ness_and_Sonic]

Originally posted by Darius:

Originally posted by Ness_and_Sonic:

I agree, which is why Denuvo needs to stay as far away from them as possible.

Why tho? It does a pretty good job at shoving away the idiots

The people at Denuvo are the idiots. Pirates see DRM as a challenge, not a barrier. Take a look at Earthbound. If you have a legit cartridge, you wouldn't suspect anything. However, deep in its code is one of the most aggressive anti-piracy measures that could be placed into a game's code. It didn't stop them.

[󠀡󠀡 ⁧⁧Darius]

Originally posted by Ness_and_Sonic:

Originally posted by Darius:

Why tho? It does a pretty good job at shoving away the idiots

The people at Denuvo are the idiots. Pirates see DRM as a challenge, not a barrier. Take a look at Earthbound. If you have a legit cartridge, you wouldn't suspect anything. However, deep in its code is one of the most aggressive anti-piracy measures that could be placed into a game's code. It didn't stop them.

It is a relentless war but what you suggest is to just give up? It at least stops day 1 pirating (except for a few Unity-games exceptions) and that is huge

Anyway, there is always room for progress... Zzz

[Shark Bait]

Originally posted by Darius:

Originally posted by Ness_and_Sonic:

The people at Denuvo are the idiots. Pirates see DRM as a challenge, not a barrier. Take a look at Earthbound. If you have a legit cartridge, you wouldn't suspect anything. However, deep in its code is one of the most aggressive anti-piracy measures that could be placed into a game's code. It didn't stop them.

It is a relentless war but what you suggest is to just give up? It at least stops day 1 pirating (except for a few Unity-games exceptions) and that is huge

But there is always room for progres... Zzz

There is no progress, DRM is completely incapable of preventing piracy. Defending DRM just makes you an idiot for thinking it can work.

[󠀡󠀡 ⁧⁧Darius]

Originally posted by Heavy Shinobi:

Originally posted by Darius:

It is a relentless war but what you suggest is to just give up? It at least stops day 1 pirating (except for a few Unity-games exceptions) and that is huge

But there is always room for progres... Zzz

There is no progress, DRM is completely incapable of preventing piracy. Defending DRM just makes you an idiot for thinking it can work.

Yup, makes absolutely no sense

[Shark Bait]

Originally posted by Darius:

Originally posted by Heavy Shinobi:

There is no progress, DRM is completely incapable of preventing piracy. Defending DRM just makes you an idiot for thinking it can work.

Yup, makes absolutely no sense

DRM is at best a speed bump for piracy, delays it for a very small amount of time. Sorry you aren't able to realise how flawed DRM is but slap fights are much easier than thinking amirite?

[Ness_and_Sonic]

Originally posted by Darius:

It is a relentless war but what you suggest is to just give up? It at least stops day 1 pirating (except for a few Unity-games exceptions) and that is huge

Anyway, there is always room for progres... Zzz

It's weak. It's getting undermined in a matter of days. I believe the patch was undermined in a matter of hours. I'd recommend leaking a sabotaged version of the game instead with as bait for a nasty trap. Are you familiar with BOFH?

[Doktor Mandrake]

Originally posted by Darius:

Originally posted by Katt:

American Conquest (Russia) (CDV Software)
Anstoss 4
Beyond Divinity (Hip Games)
Breed (CDV Software)
Chaos League (Strategy First)
Chrome (Russia) (Strategy First)
Codename: Outbreak (Russia) (Virgin)
Codename: Panzers, Phase One (CDV)
Colin McRae Rally 2005 (DVD) (Codemasters)
Cossacks: European War (Russia) (CDV Software)
Cossacks 2: The Napoleonic Wars (CDV Software)
Curse: They Eye of Isis (Dreamcatcher)
Cycling Manager 3 (GMX Media)
D-Day (Monte Cristo)
Dead to Rights (Hip Interactive)
Demonic Speedway (Poland)
Desert Rats vs. Afrika Corps (Monte Cristo)
DTM Race Driver 2 (Codemasters)
Emergency Fire Response (Dreamcatcher)
Enigma: Rising Tide (Tesseraction Games)
Etherlords (Russia) (Strategy First)
Etherlords II (Strategy First)
Fire Chief (Strategy First)
Fire Department (Monte Cristo)
Gangland (Whiptail Interactive)
Gooka: The Mystery of Janatris (Cenega)
GTR-FIA GT Racing (SimBin Development Team)
Horse Race Manager (Cyanide)
Kicker Manager 2004 (Deep Silver)
Kill Switch (France) (Namco)
Korea: Forgotten Conflict (Cenega)
LMA Manager 2005 (DVD) (Codemasters)
Medievil Lords (Monte Cristo)
Magne Carta (Korea)
Mercedes-Benz World Racing (Spain) (TDK Interactive)
Mortyr II (Redback)
Mouse Trophy (Neko)
Obscure (Hydravision Entertainment)
Pax Romana (Dreamcatcher Interactive)
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (Russia) (UBI Soft)
Pro Rugby Manager (Digital Jesters)
Runaway: A Road Adventure (Tri Synergy)
Scrapland (Deep Silver)
Second Sight (Codemasters)
Silent Hunter III (DVD) (Ubisoft)
Silent Storm (Nival)
Silkolene Honda Motocross GP (Midas Interactive)
Singles (Eidos Interactive)
Sniper
Soldiers: Heroes of World War II (Codemasters)
Sommer Spiele (dtp)
Splinter Cell : Chaos Theory (Ubisoft)
Steel Saviour (Koch Media)
Still Life (Microids)
Sudeki (DVD) (Zoo Digital Publishing)
Tennis Masters Series: Battleground of Champions (Microids)
The Black Mirror (The Adventure Company)
The Fall: Last Days of Gaia (Deep Silver)
The I Of The Dragon (Russia) (Primal Software)
The Westerner (Focus Home Interactive)
TOCA Race Driver 2 (Codemasters)
Track Mania (Nadeo)
Track Mania : Sunrise (Nadeo)
UFO: Aftermath (Spain) (Cenega)
V8 Supercars 2 (Codemasters)
Virtual Skipper 3 (Enlight)
Wildlife Park (Encore, Inc)
World War II: Frontline Command (Strategy First)
X2: The Threat (Enlight Software)
Xpand Rally (Deep Silver)

Those games are still working dude. You're completely lost. Go sleep

I like how you're claiming you've tried every one of those games on the list recently

xD

[Katt]

Originally posted by Darius:

Those games are still working dude. You're completely lost. Go sleep

those are StarForce games and they are most certainly not working

[Pancakes11]

Originally posted by Katt:

those are StarForce games and they are most certainly not working

Hate to say it but my steam version of "Still Life" by Microids still works (Just installed it and tried to play it to verify and it worked.) Can't speak for the other games but that one does work. You might have been talking about a non steam version?

[asojidev]

I can't believe this thread is still going. It's hilarious tbh.

[Katt]

Originally posted by Pancakes11:

Originally posted by Katt:

those are StarForce games and they are most certainly not working

Hate to say it but my steam version of "Still Life" by Microids still works (Just installed it and tried to play it to verify and it worked.) Can't speak for the other games but that one does work. You might have been talking about a non steam version?

of course! Sure, one could buy a re-release that is free of starforce, and I imagine that in the future, games that use Denuvo will get a re-release that doesn't include it. but making your fans have to buy your game over and over again to continue enjoying it isn't really a popular practice from the consumer perspective.

[Pancakes11]

Originally posted by Katt:

of course! Sure, one could buy a re-release that is free of starforce, and I imagine that in the future, games that use Denuvo will get a re-release that doesn't include it. but making your fans have to buy your game over and over again to continue enjoying it isn't really a popular practice from the consumer perspective.

Agreed ^__^ I wasn't even aware I had a re-release version.

[Ness_and_Sonic]

Originally posted by Doktor Mandrake:

I like how you're claiming you've tried every one of those games on the list recently

xD

Heck, Second Sight is no longer available digitally.

[Yskar]

"You're very cute and you're missing out. "
Implying they are not playing the Denuvo disabled version in this exact moment.