Has anyone archieved to run Sonic Mania in Windows XP?

[Tailsnic Retroworks]

I have completed the game at 100% in my PC with Windows 10, so now I want to put the game in other PC that I have inside an arcade cabinet, which has WIndows XP.
The game doesn't open in it, and I have read that many people can't open it. Is there any solution?

[SolidSonicMania]

Heh, this is a cute thread. I had to try after building this XP PC but I can see why it doesn't run now, at least.

Guess it has to do with the NT kernel (XP is kernel 5.5, Vista is 6.0 and 7 descends from that as kernel 6.1 so I guess the major version revision introduced a big change to the libraries).

[Aemony]

Originally posted by SolidSonicMania:

Heh, this is a cute thread. I had to try after building this XP PC but I can see why it doesn't run now, at least.

Guess it has to do with the NT kernel (XP is kernel 5.5, Vista is 6.0 and 7 descends from that as kernel 6.1 so I guess the major version revision introduced a big change to the libraries).

The most likely reason is as I mentioned previously:

Originally posted by Aemony:

I wonder if it even works on Vista without hacks, truth be told, as it seems to rely on the universal CRT DLL files that are only available on 7 and above.

What the universal CRT DLL files is all about is a major change that Microsoft performed in regards to the Visual C++ C Runtime (CRT) in Visual Studio 2015 back in 2014-2015 that requires an OS update and updated Visual C++ Redist packages and DLL files to be installed on the system.

* https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vcblog/2015/03/03/introducing-the-universal-crt/
* https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2999226/update-for-universal-c-runtime-in-windows

It seems that I was slightly mistaken, though, as it turns out that Vista also got the necessary update and support for these new DLL files. So unless something else would prevent it from working on Vista, at least the universal CRT runtime wouldn't, at least.

[Silent]

There are a few features introduced in 7 (for example, hardware overlays and extra flip modes in d3d9ex) which could potentially render the game unusable on Vista. Pretty sure winapi got a few more functions too.

The only way to know what's going on would be actually trying to run it on Vista. It's not unlikely the game will run just fine, even though it's not mentioned in system requirements.

[Samson Fairfox]

WinXP is dead

[Bad Aim Bodyshot Barry]

Originally posted by Silent:

There are a few features introduced in 7 (for example, hardware overlays and extra flip modes in d3d9ex) which could potentially render the game unusable on Vista. Pretty sure winapi got a few more functions too.

The only way to know what's going on would be actually trying to run it on Vista. It's not unlikely the game will run just fine, even though it's not mentioned in system requirements.

whats annoying is a had a HP laptop that was vista but thats LONG gone now, the damm things busted

[Aemony]

Originally posted by Silent:

The only way to know what's going on would be actually trying to run it on Vista. It's not unlikely the game will run just fine, even though it's not mentioned in system requirements.

Confirmed working fine: https://i.imgur.com/4ZSxto3.png

This is with a clean install of Windows Vista x64 SP2 and the Universal C Runtime[support.microsoft.com] installed. The game automatically installed the Visual C++ 2015 Redist package on first launch of the game, and everything works as expected.

On another note, I've actually missed Vista's interface a bit...

[Crashed]

And of course the claim above a Core 2 Duo would run the game poorly have been disproven. In fact there is a video on YouTube of the game running just fine on a Pentium 4.

[Azul]

Originally posted by Samson Fairfox:

WinXP is dead

Windows XP is used a heck of alot and still got updates untill 2019, If you consenter POSready2009 as it uses the XP Kernal

[Ikagura]

Windows XP is obsolete.

[shadowflash]

POSReady is a version of windows that exists with sole purpose of extending life of old hardware, as you can guess from the name - mainly POS terminals and ATMs.
Commercial/industrial hardware usage is different from home use. Sometimes costs of upgrading many thousands of units can cost hundreds of millions, that's why they are trying to extend the life or those units for as long as it's possible. For same reason quite many factories still use a lot of equipment that's made in 50-60s or even older - if it gets the job done and costs of replacing it is very high (hundreds of millions, sometimes billions) it will work till it will wear out so much that it will be impossible to fix (which can be 300+ years), some factories that exist for centuries still use some equipment from 1800s.
But no one will be using equipment that old when building a new factory.

There's only one usage for XP at home in 2020 - running old software that doesn't work well in modern windows/wine or VM, on old computers, that's it.

[Ikagura]

If somebody has a genuine video of playing Mania on Xp I'd be impressed