If you want pvp avoid this game

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I'm 61 with allmost 500gs and I still get stumped. I can actually die in 1 second with 300 dp. Dp is defense which is totally useless.

Ap which is attack power is only thing you should care about. Ap has always been broken but now these idiotic devs added ap scale system. So people who have 260ap now suddenly get extra bonus. The more ap you have the more bonus you get. So people who were most powerful are now even stronger which makes 0 sense.

This game is not only gear dependant game but MOST gear dependant gear in market. Also you won't get any decent reward doing pvp. Prepare to 1-shot mobs 3000+ hours to catch up.

Only reason I still play this game is cos of graphics and sailing. I find world in this game beautiful especially on 55oled tv. I play this game just for chilling. If I want pvp I just play another game.

If you buy this don't waste anything on cash shop since there is no reason to compete in this broken game.

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[The United States of America]

Noted.

[Ghigi]

OP: please link your gear using bdoplanner.

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Even with 300 dp if you face someone with 270ap+ They will just melt you. Pvp in this game at the high tiers becomes a battle of blocks and cc. First to get a cc wins since you will most likely be dead long before you stand back up.

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Yep and every ability has somekind of cc. You die mostly while in it. As melee you go in for 2second and back retreat. If you get ccd you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

This is mostly for gvg. If you want to test it go red battlefield and check out this insanity yourself. You don't have to believe me,, just go test it in rbf.

I can probably reach 340dp with help of accessory in few months but is it worth it? Not really as you lose AP and can't kill ♥♥♥♥ while you still die in CC. Every class should go full AP especially after this scaling change.

Dp is like 20% value of ap. They're not 1-1 ratio.

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I'm missing:

dim tree, urugon and griffon but those are not easy to get and upgrade is very minimal as dr is still roughly same. You will still die in cc.

I can change belt + acc for more dp but it's not worth it with this ap hell.

Honestly though I don't care at this point thouh. I fine doing stuff than pvp.

[angelo]

seems like you are just bad at pvp and your gear is pretty much a meme, you are stacking evasion (manos, sicils and muskans) on a class that doesnt even have high evasion scaling, anyone running bhegs with jin vipers is going to trash your build in 5 seconds,you are also running tree belt and grana earring in a class that doesnt need a lot of acc, so basically you are handicapping yourself.
you should mim-max your gear depending on your playstyle, if you want to score kills go full ap, if you want to help your team with grabs and cannon snipes go full dr (dr build means, urugons, griffon, theos/saiyer and cadry rings, not whatever you have right now) yes you will still get 1 shotted by someone with 270ap but is not like theres a lot of +270ap players running around.

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Originally posted by angelo:

seems like you are just bad at pvp and your gear is pretty much a meme, you are stacking evasion (manos, sicils and muskans) on a class that doesnt even have high evasion scaling, anyone running bhegs with jin vipers is going to trash your build in 5 seconds,you are also running tree belt and grana earring in a class that doesnt need a lot of acc, so basically you are handicapping yourself.
you should mim-max your gear depending on your playstyle, if you want to score kills go full ap, if you want to help your team with grabs and cannon snipes go full dr (dr build means, urugons, griffon, theos/saiyer and cadry rings, not whatever you have right now) yes you will still get 1 shotted by someone with 270ap but is not like theres a lot of +270ap players running around.

Ok and how the ♥♥♥♥ I replace muskans? You think Urugons grow on ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tree? In general getting boss items in this game is cancer. I feel sorry for any new players who are getting weapons. You will eather spend months or even year trying snipe from market or pray rng doing bosses where people with more AP have bigger % to win them. Not to mention cancer spawn times of bosses.

What is more amusing is that you think minmaxing by replacing 1-3 gear parts will suddenly make me durable. Dude I die in 1 second using 300 dp. You really think 20% upgrade matter ♥♥♥♥ in this AP META?

Also how about people who have worse gear than me? Or do you expect everyone running full tet?

Also my accessories are cheap. I played this game 3 month. I can replace easily anything I want BUT WHATS THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ POINT?

I did 15min as warrior arena matches in 3v3 wow. Here you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ die 1-3 in CC!! You charge in, do max 1-2 skills and get the ♥♥♥♥ out. Also pray you won't get ccd. That's how idiotic this game is.


Thank god I didn't get Cadry rings. I get better AP earrings and get duo ogre with shakatus. My belt is fine. It's far better than duo basilisk.

Also I have Saiyer and it's garbage. If anything I need Nouver most atm.

[angelo]

Originally posted by Bloods:

Ok and how the ♥♥♥♥ I replace muskans? You think Urugons grow on ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tree? In general getting boss items in this game is cancer. I feel sorry for any new players who are getting weapons. You will eather spend months or even year trying snipe from market or pray rng doing bosses where people with more AP have bigger % to win them. Not to mention cancer spawn times of bosses.

What is more amusing is that you think minmaxing by replacing 1-3 gear parts will suddenly make me durable. Dude I die in 1 second using 300 dp. You really think 20% upgrade matter ♥♥♥♥ in this AP META?

Also how about people who have worse gear than me? Or do you expect everyone running full tet?

Also my accessories are cheap. I played this game 3 month. I can replace easily anything I want BUT WHATS THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ POINT?

I did 15min as warrior arena matches in 3v3 wow. Here you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ die 1-3 in CC!! You charge in, do max 1-2 skills and get the ♥♥♥♥ out. Also pray you won't get ccd. That's how idiotic this game is.


Thank god I didn't get Cadry rings. I get better AP earrings and get duo ogre with shakatus. My belt is fine. It's far better than duo basilisk.

Also I have Saiyer and it's garbage. If anything I need Nouver most atm.

just like any other piece of armor you bid and roll nv until you get it, that or preorder.
a year to get boss gear? unless you are playing a really popular class getting boss weapons is really easy, also higher ap doesnt increase the chance of getting a boss drop.
300dp using a eva build LMAO do you even know how evasion works? it doesnt reduce damage, it increases your chance of avoiding damage but thats pretty much useless because most class have high acc scaling and people already have a ♥♥♥♥ ton of acc with tet kzarka, bheg and jin vipers so that turns evasion a useless rng build, the difference between muskans and urugons is massive, tri urugons are better than tet and even pen muskans and the dr from cadry rings is way better than a useless manos earring, https://i.gyazo.com/f4c6451b8718c39d550119b8ab3e2f64.mp4 thats my 234ap sorc barely scratching a +340dp full dr valk, with that same character i get +300 points consistently in rbf yet i couldnt do much againts her, so you really think a full dr build doesnt make any difference?
warrior is one of the most brainless classes, you can stay in block, SA and FW all the time, if you are dying as a warrior is because you are really bad and you arent supposed to just charge into enemies and spam skills (unless you are a mystic of course) the only time to dive into a group of enemies is when a wizars/witch gives you PA, any other time you are supposed to look for openings to break the enemies guard

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The more damage you do the better % getting item from boss. I know people who killed 6 months boss and never got item.

Only reason I got my weapons is because I play dead class. I can't even imagine what kind of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it would been if i played mystic or wiz.

NV is also garbage. Actually it's only thing I've been using my energy on because it's decent way getting shards. I never seen ANY boss item from it in 2 months. Also you can't get boss armor from it, just weapons.

Also why you argue about minimal armor increase. You think getting 30 extra hidden dr makes any difference? Muskan is better than any green quality shoe. I go with what I have. Also if you're forced to get 1 armor to do pvp then it's even more retarded.

That video was also pointless. Show how multiple people are attacking you in rbf. Good luck getting 1v1 match in gvg or rbf.

As berserk I should just use my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cannons and never go in unless I go full YOLO AP MONKEY.

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Not only this game is joke because AP is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up but also gear is more important than skill.

Person who afked 2-years can destroy players who played 3 months. 0% Skill, game is designed for AFK monkeys who are carried by gear. Pvp is joke.

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I completely agree with OP. Game is one of the worst for PvP.

[angelo]

Originally posted by Bloods:

The more damage you do the better % getting item from boss. I know people who killed 6 months boss and never got item.

Only reason I got my weapons is because I play dead class. I can't even imagine what kind of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it would been if i played mystic or wiz.

NV is also garbage. Actually it's only thing I've been using my energy on because it's decent way getting shards. I never seen ANY boss item from it in 2 months. Also you can't get boss armor from it, just weapons.

Also why you argue about minimal armor increase. You think getting 30 extra hidden dr makes any difference? Muskan is better than any green quality shoe. I go with what I have. Also if you're forced to get 1 armor to do pvp then it's even more retarded.

That video was also pointless. Show how multiple people are attacking you in rbf. Good luck getting 1v1 match in gvg or rbf.

As berserk I should just use my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cannons and never go in unless I go full YOLO AP MONKEY.

doing more damage doesnt really increase your chance of getting a drop, you didnt saw the boss changes that they did a couple of months ago????? theres even a video of a guy that wasted 2 hours killing nouver solo and he didnt get a drop, i use a140ap witch for world bosses and ive gotten +10 kutum/nouver boxes, 3 kzarka and 1 dande box.
2 months rolling nv and not even a single piece of boss gear? over exaggerating too much? nv doesnt give boss armor? jesus at thist point i feel like you are just trolling, i got my urugons from nv https://i.gyazo.com/31bd6ef720fe70865a742ee22d802f06.png
and the video was to proof how a real DR build works, you didnt saw how my attacks barely did 30% of that valk hp? it wasnt to show something about rbf so why would i show when a bunch of people tries to attack me? getting a 1v1 in a gvg or rbf? they are called gvg for a reason, as a zerker you should try to grab people and stunt them so your team can kill them, especially when a wizard/witch tries to PA and rush your team or a mystic/striker is being anoying spaming skills with SA. every class has a roll, just like assasin classes like sorc, musa, ninja are supposed to get in their backline to distract and kill their healers and ragers, zerkers should stay with their team to defend the real dps classes.
you should try playing mystic or striker, those are really good classes for really bad players, they have high dp scaling, 30% magic rest, they stay in SA most of the time and can spam heals with no problem

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+10 kutum/nouver boxes haha yeah right. Who is exaggerating here? If you try to say crap at least be legit with it. Also gz on nv armor. You should try lotto. I have never seen any boss gear. It has so small % you have better chance to win it from market bid.

I die in 1 second while grabbing someone. You think you get somekind special protection while grabbing someone? That's what I've been doing constantly. I grab and die eather while I cc or right after.

How the ♥♥♥♥ 30dr helps me survive significally longer? 1 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ item doesn't make AP less cancer. Yei I can survive 1 second longer. Why do you defend DP when it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ garbage?

Please go to RBF fight against multiple enemies and let's see how long you survive against 2-year old veterans with over 280-300ap SCALED. You completely ignore scaling part.

Berserk is fine. I've seen berserk with 700 points but he was in topend guild and 270+ ap scaled. Don't go DP donkey and you should do fine. Full AP is the meta thanks to idiot devs who made this scaling system.

Besides it's not just AP scaling that is retarded but fact that it has insane Gear difference. It's noob like you who win battles by outgearing someone. You have 0 skills and carried by your gear GZ.

Saddest part is that people obtain better gear advantage by AFK longer. GZ on your afk skills. That's what this game is generating afk silver simulator. Pvp is joke.

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Originally posted by Pudding:

git gud

100% gear 0% skill sure..

I will try to improve my afk skills to be better player. Meanwhile I play Overwatch which is actually skill based game.