Publicado originalmente por Lurazius:

To bring something like that on pc after world/iceborne is a bad joke.

+1

Publicado originalmente por Acastian:

Pay full price for a downgrade from World?
No thank you.

+1

Was finally able to launch the demo. Controls are worst than MHW.

Publicado originalmente por xQUATROx:

Publicado originalmente por Calm Monk:

This is the first time I've seen someone prefer the awful mandatory clutch claw with its tenderizing and wall banging forced chore gameplay to maintain DPS over the wirebug which everyone saw as an improvement when Rise came out, interesting.

My missis is the same. We just really don't like the wirebug thing. I totally get the hate for the clutch claw, but since me and my missis usually play together - she claws with the greatsword (because it only takes one try to tenderize with a GS) while I keep up the pressure with my LS. It can get really annoying solo for sure, but she actually kinda enjoys it even. The wirebug, however... It just feels like a thing for weebs to justify why the character can now fly around everywhere. It feels stupid, it's clunky to use (with a mouse/keyboard, anyway) and it bothers me that it's the new must-use mechanic to get that higher damage output. It makes Rise less of a methodical MH game and more of a random anime hack'n'slasher with all the new weeb moves and flashing. I'd rather have the claw again if some sort of a gimmick just has to be in the game.

"why does this japanese game have stuff that feels japanese, stupid weebs ruining my grounded, realistic Monster Hunter experience"

And its buggier than ever! Woo! Lets go Crapcom!

Menu cinematic looks 2005 as ♥♥♥♥, I don't expect that to change in the full release tbh. With "upscaling" her clothes looked like solid colors, you really have to squint to see those details.
Jaggies everywhere that don't vanish whichever AA setting you put in. If you play this on a smaller screen (say 6.2 inches) at lower screen res (say 720p) it may not be noticeable. Or it could be worse if the render resolution is less than 1:1.
D-pad controls are defaulted to social (emotes and calls) instead of the item bar compared to World. The ♥♥♥♥ was that about?
The hunter speaks constantly throughout the entire hunt by default. Voiced protags are fine and all, but do they have to tell me what I'm doing every time I do it? Put that to OFF if you can. Gimmicks are fine, but don't make them annoying.
And those 2D static image effects were ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ disgusting to see, not even proper particle effects like in World. Literally a switch copypaste, as far as I'm concerned.
Not even a good upscale.

"Optimized keyboard & mouse controls" When the controls are worse than World's (Especially aiming in general with the Mouse) and don't even allow you to have duplicate binds. Additionally, the HUD takes up 90% of my screen and can't be configured. I didn't want a shameless port

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an one year old switch port game that's basically watered down version of MHW, with trash mobile port graphic and far faaaaaaaaar inferior gameplay mechanics and everything else.. yet it has the audacity to out price MHW, by the warp it is close to the price of Battlefield 2042 gold edition~ what a fxxking joke...

I for one like the game

Publicado originalmente por 76561198061064911:

an one year old switch port game that's basically watered down version of MHW, with trash mobile port graphic and far faaaaaaaaar inferior gameplay mechanics and everything else.. yet it has the audacity to out price MHW, by the warp it is close to the price of Battlefield 2042 gold edition~ what a fxxking joke...

This. bad port is bad, worse than world game design is worse. dissapointed/10. but it was to be expected with what amounts to a port of a switch/mobile game.

Publicado originalmente por ReturnToCinder:

the only thing i'll buy from you ever again is remastered Lost Planet 2

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, THIS i do want. with propper steam matchmaking and no games for windows live bullcrap.

Publicado originalmente por BogeyOnTheRoof:

If the controls do not suit you, just change them. You can rebind everything.
You can just ignore the wirebugs and play the game like a classic MH if you want, though in my opinion you'd massively lose on some of the most fun gameplay MH has had in a while. Wirebugs actually give new interesting and unique moves to all weapons that you can string into your usual combos, with additional ones not shown in the demo that you can unlock later. The claw is just a way for all weapons to add a critical area on a monster, it's a boring mechanic. Also "weeb moves and flashing"? Have you played Longsword? Have you played other MH games that had special super flashy skills in them? Other then the mobility options, it's nothing new for a MH game. World isn't the standard for the series, it's the exception. Also weird to use "weeb" as a derogatory term when talking about a Japanese game in a Japanese setting.

I love ignorant know-it-all comments like these, so I'll bite :)

If the controls don't suit me - rebind them? I can rebind everything? WOW, REALLY?
Except you failed to read that the controls don't work properly. RMB cannot be rebound to action AND secondary attack, for example, TAB can't be bound to anything even though it's not used in any melee/menu controls, etc. But you know better, of course.

"Just" ignore the wirebugs? Sure, but it's the same as ignoring the clutch claw in MHW:I - it severely impacts the damage output and prolongs the fights. Bet you didn't consider that tricky one, have you..?

"Most fun MH has had in a while"? Pardon me, but I do like my methodical combat of the old. If I wanted a hack'n'slash I'd go play God of War again, though the ones I played had no flying...wah wah...

Have I played longsword? Yeah, mained it as far back as MHF2/MHFU. But I guess that gives me no perspective on how it used to be with the flashiness, huh?

World isn't the standard for MH - I agree somewhat, but World is CLEARLY and VERY OBVIOUSLY the inspiration here for Rise's...mechanics, controls, animations even graphics (reused assets), etc - it's the benchmark for MH games going forward and they did a lot of things right. It's not unreasonable to compare the last MH title to this one, so I am puzzled as to why you would think it is. An unhealthy bias, perhaps?

As for me using the "weeb" thing - yep, I stick by it. You may not have had the PSP back in the day when I was playing MH non-stop, but I'll fill you in on this: there were plenty of J-RPGs and such that were flashy on the PSP. MHF/MHF2/MHFU/MHP3 were, however, NOT flashy, which is one of the things that drew me to the series as someone who is NOT a fan of the overly-weeby stuff (again - there was plenty of that on the system). Every MH game added a little bit more..a little bit more...a little bit more... At first I even thought GenU was going to be too much, but it was fine, passable. I thought World was gonna be too much when it upped the ante again - I got used to it, nothing was ever obscured. Rise? Yeah, this is too much. Now even people like Team Darkside start complaining, because they can't see what they're doing anymore. But who are they to speak...filthy pros...

Either way, I hope this has been helpful in making you think twice before posting ignorant reactive comments next time (did you REALLY both fail to read where I tried to change the controls AND fail to consider that I might have tried that? REALLY?) and considering that A) not everyone thinks like you, B) not everyone's a weeb or likes weeb sh*t and C) that different people have different preferences and limits.

I hope you have a lovely and educational day :)

Publicado originalmente por CookedMeat:

Publicado originalmente por Lurazius:

the only good thing to say about the demo was like it was running stable... yea, that pretty much was everything.

You're just lucky, there's a 20 pages post in Rise forum of people reporting stability issues.

I guess I'm "lucky" too. 3090FE, haven't updated my GPU driver in a while, my CPU is aging (5960X OC) - I couldn't get it to crash even at 10240x5760 res lol. High refresh rates worked fine, G-Sync kicked-in, looked fine.

"20 pages" of users complaining about crashes and flickering (mostly involving AMD hardware, unsurprisingly, but I did see a few with intel/nvidia combos as well) vs no pages of happy users complaining about not getting crashing... I wonder if there's ever a negative bias towards things because people tend to complain when stuff doesn't work but don't say anything when it does...hmmmmm.... I wonder if that ever happens anywhere else....hmmmm... lol

Publicado originalmente por xQUATROx:

"20 pages" of Steam users complaining about crashes and flickering (mostly involving AMD hardware, unsurprisingly, but I did see a few with intel/nvidia combos as well) vs no pages of happy users complaining about not getting crashing... I wonder if there's ever a negative bias towards things because people tend to complain when stuff doesn't work but don't say anything when it does...hmmmmm.... I wonder if that ever happens anywhere else....hmmmm... lol

Why would people 'complain' about not getting crashes? I guess you mean compliment?
I do get what you are trying to say here, something like "we shouldn't say something bad because there are more people complaining than complementing", but people usually expect things to go right, because well... they paid for it. It is also devs' responsibility to keep their game optimized and compatible with different hardware of reasonable specs.

Publicado originalmente por CookedMeat:

Publicado originalmente por xQUATROx:

"20 pages" of Steam users complaining about crashes and flickering (mostly involving AMD hardware, unsurprisingly, but I did see a few with intel/nvidia combos as well) vs no pages of happy users complaining about not getting crashing... I wonder if there's ever a negative bias towards things because people tend to complain when stuff doesn't work but don't say anything when it does...hmmmmm.... I wonder if that ever happens anywhere else....hmmmm... lol

Why would people 'complain' about not getting crashes? I guess you mean compliment?
I do get what you are trying to say here, something like "we shouldn't say something bad because there are more people complaining than complementing", but people usually expect things to go right, because well... they paid for it. It is also devs' responsibility to keep their game optimized and compatible with different hardware of reasonable specs.

You are right and this is WHY we have this...DEMO. People didn't pay for it and it serves a purpose to the devs as well, this is why they're asking for people to report their issues.
Like...seriously, you seem to be forgetting (or ignoring?) that this is a DEMO and it's still over 3 months away from launch (with the content already mostly done thanks to the fact that this is a port to begin with).

I appreciate that people would have liked this demo to work for them - and I certainly had no technical qualms with it that I couldn't solve (the only thing that didn't work from a technical perspective was DSR in fullscreen mode, but it worked and performed flawlessly in borderless up to 10K res lol) - but that's the nature of PC gaming and I wouldn't be surprised if a ton of it is just PEBCAK in various forms, because being in IT taught me just how little people actually know about PCs and how to not trash them, especially when smarties try to "hack" and "mod" the OS itself because "spyware" and other boogeymen they found out about online... :)