8GB DDR4 vs 16GB RAM

[Orwin]

So, is there any clear FPS advantage or overall smoothness improvement when upgrading from 8GB to 16GB? I wonder how RAM intensive MHW is.

[Singrave]

let me answer the question and let mods close this thread alread

Orwin の投稿を引用：

So, is there any clear FPS advantage or overall smoothness improvement when upgrading from 8GB to 16GB? I wonder how RAM intensive MHW is.

no clear FPS advantage or overall smoothness improvement when upgrading from 8g to 16gb.
MHW consumes up to ~3gb RAM.

[WarRequiem]

Tenko の投稿を引用：

Komarimaru の投稿を引用：

You should have a job if you've all these gaming PC's and laptops to buy it yourself. As for that laptop video...

That again is running lowest and still unable to hit 30 FPS.


You've shown no proof of this 4GB memory revolution, just sub par videos proving your own words wrong.

You said you "bet" so buy it for me since I proved you wrong with 3 videos and 3 websites(shh dont talk about these!)

Were not talking FPS though kid!

3 videos 3 tech websites showing how your wrong I even posted another one thats on a laptop!

And if you TRUELY read what I said, you should be able to find where I said "But since kids are dumb you are acting like im saying 4gb is better than 8gb and 16gb is pointless" Right? Sit down, Be quiet with your nonsense.

What you're telling people to do is play a modern video game on and 800x600 monitor at 30 FPS.

Just cause you can do it doesn't mean you should. Are you an advocate for console gaming or something? What's the game you're playing here?

[WarRequiem]

Komarimaru の投稿を引用：

You didn't prove me wrong, you proved yourself wrong since none of the videos offered a smooth gaming experience. FPS is gaming. If you cannot maintain a non freezing no lag at least 30 FPS. It's not good for a gaming experience. Consoles can do better then that.

Now, quit being a troll, and thanks for admitting that 4GB is inferior and should not even be mentioned in anything related to gaming.

I believe Tenko is one of the people that whole heartly believes the human eye can't see past 30FPS.

[Ancient]

Tenko の投稿を引用：

Komarimaru の投稿を引用：

-1As a member of Guru3D and Extreme Overclocking.com for the past 15+ years-

-2The Minimum requirements for games are just that, the minimum. Not the optimal gaming experience.

-3A You cannot find, anywhere from the past 5+ years, any legitimate site that reccomends 4GB of DDR for any PC meant for gaming.I am willing to bet you cannot find a site that reccomends are says it possible, in the past Decade.

So stop spreading misinformation.

-1 As someone who signed up for 2 websites for "15+" years" You sure dont speak like it.

-2 We arn't talking about the Optimal gaming Experince, We were talking what is the standard, then people started to argue you cant play games with less than 8gb. Read before you speak(Forum guy should know this).

-3 Sure, Gift me GTA:V
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWnQx09MSao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk6MKOMOsVY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDG4DFQeQQ4
https://www.pcgamer.com/new-testing-shows-that-4gb-of-ram-is-still-plenty-for-gaming/
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/new-testing-suggests-pc-games-dont-need-more-than-4gb-of-ram/
https://www.techspot.com/article/1535-how-much-ram-do-you-need-for-gaming/


I'm looking forewards to playing GTA:V. Dont act tough when you are a bad liar.

Did you not watch those videos? 4GB was a hitching, stuttering mess in most of the titles tested.

Seems more like proof that 4GB for gaming is laughably bad to me.

[casdarius]

ok so to chime in on this ram issue... 16 gigs is what you should aim for. 8 gigs barely runs a few apps and your game, mos tpeople require voice, you may need to look up some info and google eats the ram, saying 4 gigs is acceptable is like saying 2 gigs is acceptable for a gpu ... its just not. at present while idle my system uses 3.56 gigs of ram with just the os and a few apps running so be your own judge i suppose but dont let someone lead you astray on these subjects. also speeds are quite important as 16 gigs of 1600 ram will be out performed by 8 gigs of 2333 ect. ive seen many instances of games having memory leaks in which you would be kicked offline if you had less than 16 gigs and its kinda comical to see it happen.

[Tenko]

Komarimaru の投稿を引用：

You didn't prove me wrong, you proved yourself wrong since none of the videos

>>>>offered a smooth gaming experience.<<<<

I win. That isnt what we're talking about no matter how much you avoid the tech websites too.

lameover の投稿を引用：

no clear FPS advantage or overall smoothness improvement when upgrading from 8g to 16gb.
MHW consumes up to ~3gb RAM.

I already showed a video for him showing hte minor diffrences between 4v8v16v36

WarRequiem の投稿を引用：

What you're telling people to do is play a modern video game on and 800x600 monitor at 30 FPS.

Just saying that you CAN. while you kids say its impossiable.

[WarRequiem]

WarRequiem の投稿を引用：

What you're telling people to do is play a modern video game on and 800x600 monitor at 30 FPS.

Just saying that you CAN. while you kids say its impossiable. [/quote]


I never said it was impossible nor is that what the OP was even asking. Your whole argument is invalid.

[Tenko]

WarRequiem の投稿を引用：

Your whole argument is invalid.

The conversation you butted in on isnt with the OP, it is with someone else. Your argument is invalid.

[WarRequiem]

Tenko の投稿を引用：

WarRequiem の投稿を引用：

Your whole argument is invalid.

The conversation you butted in on isnt with the OP, it is with someone else. Your argument is invalid.

Actually I made a comment then then you misquoted me and it grew from there.

[Tenko]

WarRequiem の投稿を引用：

Actually I made a comment then then you misquoted me and it grew from there.

shaky hand syndrome take a chill pill

[WarRequiem]

Tenko の投稿を引用：

WarRequiem の投稿を引用：

Actually I made a comment then then you misquoted me and it grew from there.

shaky hand syndrome take a chill pill

So you're wrong and know you're wrong so you proceed to insults.

[Komarimaru]

In your own words, since you've not edited that yet. you stated 4-8GB was the standard for a gaming PC, Tenko. This is not standard in any form. That is what I am saying, when you said you did not. And when we refer to gaming from 2015 and up, we are assume running 1080p. A minimum of 30 FPS though 60+ is prefered. We want the high setting textures most times, ultra if we can get it, though medium is ok but this is mostly GPU limited. But Memory on your Mainboard does have an impact, since drawing from the pagefile can lead to a non-enjoyable gaming experience from stuttering, hitches etc. Elite Dangerous can peg my memory usage over 21GB sometimes, still no idea why on that.

As for over 8 GB adding nothing, it gives you more overhead to let your PC run more smoothly in conjuction with other software. For example, running Steam, MHW, and one tab of Firefox for music, along with the standard Windows files that run all the time. I am consuming a little over 10GB of my memory.

https://i.imgur.com/RFKF83K.jpg

So, does it offer an FPS increase? Possibly no. But if you want to have more then 1-2 things open and want a smoother gaming and multimedia experience? Yes you'll want more then 8GB.

[Ratei]

Tenko の投稿を引用：

You're talking a 850$ phone vs a 25$ craigslist "Gamming" pc. and the PC will outlast the phone hands down, but thats besides the point lol.

You're exaggerating. 350$ already have 6GB ram phone. 2GB minimum for Win8/10 sure if you dont heavy use Chrome while running game, or you dont care slow window switching. My craptop is sure weaker than yours is only 310m than desktop GT240. I already came from Win7 Core2Duo with 2GB RAM, it's slow to switch window when getting full memory.

[Tenko]

Komarimaru の投稿を引用：

<Deleted because nonsense>
So, does it offer an FPS increase? Possibly no. But if you want to have more then 1-2 things open and want a smoother gaming and multimedia experience? Yes you'll want more then 8GB.

Your first block of text say alot of "WE" and anyone with any internet experince knows, there is no such thing as "WE" when you say "WE" you really mean "YOU" Those are Your preferences, Your Oppinons. Standard is for functionality. (Which is why they dont have "MAXIMUM" or "PREFERABLE" specs. idiot.

Second if you want to Youtube,Facebook,Upload a video to Tumblr while playing MonsterHunter at 4k By all means 64GB all the way. But that isnt Standard. Running the game is Standard. If you have ANY signs of trouble(FPS wise too), they will tell you after the normal 'common sense disclaimers' Run in Safe-mode to see if any change. (Because they dont recomend you doing other ♥♥♥♥ while playing their game. Besides resource usage it causes other problems too.

and all your saying is "If you want the game to look better,run better get a better computer" Which is fine, But its why Recomended Settings is The 'Default' Medium settings. and why Better,more expensive but less common Computers run at Higher settings.

rec·om·mend
ˌrekəˈmend/Submit
verb
past tense: recommended; past participle: recommended
1.
put forward (someone or something) with approval as being suitable for a particular purpose or role.

[Komarimaru]

On a final note, since we all know 8GB is the true minimum, and in turth, as I'll soon show using Tenko's own links against them, we see that 16GB is actually needed for a smooth gaming experience when it comes to modern games. The other two links are absolete due to from being in 2015. The 2017 one is the one I am going for, since they compare games out now.

"Starting with a 64-player Battlefield 1 match, we first tested on the GTX 1080 Ti at 1440p with the ultra quality preset and found that it used up to 8.2GB of system memory. The system page file grew to 11.6GB in size and this resolution/quality combo sees 3.8GB worth of VRAM consumed -- the 1080 Ti of course has an 11GB buffer. This suggests that for perfectly smooth performance in this title gamers will require 16GB of system memory."

"Dropping down to the GTX 1060 6GB under the same test conditions, we see RAM usage peak a little higher at 8.5GB and the system page file grew ever so slightly to 12GB. Again, we're seeing around 3.6GB worth of VRAM allocation."

"Now, what if we use a graphics card with a VRAM buffer that's smaller than the amount of memory the game wants to allocate? With the GTX 1060 3GB we see RAM usage hit 10GB while the pagefile grows to 12.5GB and we saw occasional dips in the frame rate as a result."

I won't post them all, but pointing it out from the very link given
https://www.techspot.com/article/1535-how-much-ram-do-you-need-for-gaming/

This is why you should read things, before posting them in your defense. Even the other articles, fro 2015, said for a smooth gaming experience, minimum of 8GB and in the future we may see the need for 16GB as games become more advanced. This was in 2015. So yes, it is possible, at unoptimal settings. No it's not reccomended by anyone.