does longsword special sheath benefit from critical draw?

[Sleyar]

is it also worth it?

when i look this up i find a lot of mixed answers from old forums, some say yes, some say no, and others say only one of the sheath move works (unclear which of the 2 sheath attacks). pretty confused.

currently im using the lightbreak edge,
i have full critical eye, full agitator, full blast, full weakness exploit and level 2 crit draw

[Smaugi]

Remove all crit skills Aside from crit draw, go to the training area, use the special sheath attacks, if they crit at some point IT works , if they don't then it does not.

[NotBer]

IIRC, it does work. I actually got a frostcraft build with crit/punish draw that I use when I'm feeling weeb-y. lol

[ᔑᓭ∴ᔑリ⊣]

yes, the special sheathe counts as a sheathe, you can also tell by using the faster sheathe skill, and safi set bonus too, i remember throwing safi set on my usual spammy playstyle and oh boy does it become a dangerous game lol

[Izayoii]

you dont need critical draw if you have, critical bost, critical eye, agitator.

and hit monster weak part. its will always give critical damage.

[D. Flame]

IIRC it benefits from all sheathing and drawing techniques, including things like Quick Sheath, so Quick Sheath has become a DPS skill too.

[Smaugi]

Originally posted by Izayoii:

you dont need critical draw if you have, critical bost, critical eye, agitator.

and hit monster weak part. its will always give critical damage.

Critical boost does not increase crit chance , and even with that combo you only have 60% crit chance , not to mention weapons with negative affinity.
Also to get more crits from hitting weak spots you need a skill called weakness exploit.

[awanderingswordsman]

I'm pretty sure he was considering weakness exploit which brings you to 110% on tenderized weakspots with agitator and CE 7. The ideal LS has -20% affinity after augments so crit draw is only gaining you 10% affinity in ideal scenarios.

It's not worth it, but it can be fun with frostcraft+punish draw since that can't get agi 7 anyway and you have a lot less slots to work with compared to the normal fatalis armor setup. If you could special sheathe after successful ISS like in rise I bet it'd be pretty competitive.

[Sleyar]

Originally posted by ItsNotBer:

IIRC, it does work. I actually got a frostcraft build with crit/punish draw that I use when I'm feeling weeb-y. lol

may i ask about the details of that build. i wanna try it

[76561198148697700]

Originally posted by Sleyar:

Originally posted by ItsNotBer:

IIRC, it does work. I actually got a frostcraft build with crit/punish draw that I use when I'm feeling weeb-y. lol

may i ask about the details of that build. i wanna try it

crit draw frostcraft build is lackluster, don't bother it's inferior compare to regular build.
you special sheath alot, sheathing animation is slow, frostcraft even slower, even with sheath gem.

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by ❤:

Originally posted by Sleyar:

may i ask about the details of that build. i wanna try it

crit draw frostcraft build is lackluster, don't bother it's inferior compare to regular build.
you special sheath alot, sheathing animation is slow, frostcraft even slower, even with sheath gem.

Yeah, Frost craft is better for big single hit weapons like Greatsword.

[Smaugi]

Originally posted by Sleyar:

Originally posted by ItsNotBer:

IIRC, it does work. I actually got a frostcraft build with crit/punish draw that I use when I'm feeling weeb-y. lol

may i ask about the details of that build. i wanna try it

Ignoring the meta slaves , basically you get velkh armor (gamma if you have it , if not beta/alpha will do) get a single armor part from frostfang for punishing draw and just use special sheath with the weeb attack that hits after a second , since its a sheath you get full frostcraft bonus for it as you can hold it till it recharges.
You slot in whatever you want pretty much , just get your crit to at least 0 and crit draw to max to crit with that attack every time.

[NotBer]

Originally posted by Sleyar:

Originally posted by ItsNotBer:

IIRC, it does work. I actually got a frostcraft build with crit/punish draw that I use when I'm feeling weeb-y. lol

may i ask about the details of that build. i wanna try it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5v_K2fqoGo

it's basically a 4-piece Rimeguard and a Frostfang piece. your mileage may vary depending on the decorations you have.

as another commenter said, it is an inferior build. but at this game's lifetime, who cares about meta lol. almost every monster dies quickly now anyway.

[Izayoii]

Originally posted by Smaugi:

Originally posted by Izayoii:

you dont need critical draw if you have, critical bost, critical eye, agitator.

and hit monster weak part. its will always give critical damage.

Critical boost does not increase crit chance , and even with that combo you only have 60% crit chance , not to mention weapons with negative affinity.
Also to get more crits from hitting weak spots you need a skill called weakness exploit.

i forgot metion that one. my long sword with fatalis weapon, doesnt have any problem without critical draw, it always critical if i just hit the weak spot

[Sleyar]

Originally posted by Smaugi:

Originally posted by Sleyar:

may i ask about the details of that build. i wanna try it

Ignoring the meta slaves , basically you get velkh armor (gamma if you have it , if not beta/alpha will do) get a single armor part from frostfang for punishing draw and just use special sheath with the weeb attack that hits after a second , since its a sheath you get full frostcraft bonus for it as you can hold it till it recharges.
You slot in whatever you want pretty much , just get your crit to at least 0 and crit draw to max to crit with that attack every time.

Originally posted by ItsNotBer:

Originally posted by Sleyar:

may i ask about the details of that build. i wanna try it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5v_K2fqoGo

it's basically a 4-piece Rimeguard and a Frostfang piece. your mileage may vary depending on the decorations you have.

as another commenter said, it is an inferior build. but at this game's lifetime, who cares about meta lol. almost every monster dies quickly now anyway.

thanks guys. i play for fun over meta :)