Iai Slash/Iai Spirit Slash

[Indoril Nerevar]

I just started using longsword and mostly I'm doing fine with the weapon. The only thing I'm having hard time to use it correctly is Iai spirit slash. I'm trying to time it when monster attacking me but I mostly failing it. Is this like dark souls parry or nah? I'm having hard time to understand this attack. ''Time this against a monster's attack to repeatedly connect with the attack and keep your spirit gauge up.'' This is what it is says in the weapon control page. What am I doing wrong?

[DaBa]

"What am I doing wrong?" I mean, what can we tell you? How are we supposed to know what you're doing wrong?

The only way to get the timing right is to keep practicing it. The window is precise, but big enough to get consistent at it.

If you still can't do it, then watch a LS speedrun and extrapolate from there. Then just practice it until it's drilled into your muscle memory.

[Indoril Nerevar]

Originally posted by DaBa:

"What am I doing wrong?" I mean, what can we tell you? How are we supposed to know what you're doing wrong?

The only way to get the timing right is to keep practicing it. The window is precise, but big enough to get consistent at it.

If you still can't do it, then watch a LS speedrun and extrapolate from there. Then just practice it until it's drilled into your muscle memory.

I said I'm having hard time to understand this is why I'm asking what am I doing wrong. I already explained it how I use the attack. Is it the correct way to use or not? Am I suppose to use the attack before monster attacking me or do I have to time it frame perfect? That's why I said is it like ds parry or not? If you are not going to be helpful then please shut up

[DaBa]

Originally posted by x:

Originally posted by DaBa:

"What am I doing wrong?" I mean, what can we tell you? How are we supposed to know what you're doing wrong?

The only way to get the timing right is to keep practicing it. The window is precise, but big enough to get consistent at it.

If you still can't do it, then watch a LS speedrun and extrapolate from there. Then just practice it until it's drilled into your muscle memory.

I said I'm having hard time to understand this is why I'm asking what am I doing wrong. I already explained it how I use the attack. Is it the correct way to use or not? Am I suppose to use the attack before monster attacking me or do I have to time it frame perfect? That's why I said is it like ds parry or not? If you are not going to be helpful then please shut up

I literally told you exactly what you have to do, best advice you could've gotten based on the information you've provided. Sorry we're not mind readers that can extrapolate what you are doing wrong from your vague description. Did it not occur to you that for people to be able to tell what is wrong with the way you do it we'd need to SEE IT? On a video maybe? And if you don't want to bother with recording a video, there are other videos out there that show exactly what the timing is? EXACTLY like what I said earlier?

Look here kid, if you want people to genuinely help you don't act like a jerk about it, especially when you're the one who's acting stupid by asking people to identify your problem based on the sentence "I'm trying to time it when monster attacking me but I mostly failing it"...

[Indoril Nerevar]

Originally posted by DaBa:

Originally posted by x:

I said I'm having hard time to understand this is why I'm asking what am I doing wrong. I already explained it how I use the attack. Is it the correct way to use or not? Am I suppose to use the attack before monster attacking me or do I have to time it frame perfect? That's why I said is it like ds parry or not? If you are not going to be helpful then please shut up

I literally told you exactly what you have to do. Sorry we're not mind readers that can extrapolate what you are doing wrong from your vague description. Did it not occur to you that for people to be able to tell what is wrong with the way you do it we'd need to SEE IT? On a video maybe? And if you don't want to bother with recording a video, there are other videos out there that show exactly what the timing is? EXACTLY like what I said earlier?

Look here kid, if you want people to genuinely help you don't act like a jerk about it, especially when you're the one who's acting stupid by asking people to identify your problem based on the sentence "I'm trying to time it when monster attacking me but I mostly failing it"...

:D bro I have no time for this childish behaviour. I'm just asking for tips. How to use it, when to use it correctly. That's it. If you are not going to give me any tips then as I said shut up

[DaBa]

- Comes to ask for advice based on a vague, written description of a problem
- Received advice based on the vague, written description of a problem
- Tells you to shut up

Seriously, what is wrong with you? I don't even know what you want anymore, are you here just to insult people, or what?

[Indoril Nerevar]

Originally posted by DaBa:

- Comes to ask for advice based on a vague, written description of a problem
- Received advice based on the vague, written description of a problem
- Tells you to shut up

Seriously, what is wrong with you? I don't even know what you want anymore, are you here just to insult people, or what?

? You just said practice more and watch videos. I already done that. That's why I'm asking for tips. I don't know why are you so aggressive? This is a gaming forum and I'm asking for tips. If you are not going give any useful tips then please stop writing nonsense.

Oh also thank you for the award! I always wanted to buy the monster hunter profile! Thanks for helping!

[Ember]

The timing is really tight, so almost frame perfect.

The attack is really situational here. I personally only use it on really easy tells instead of spamming it like you do on Rise. Especially considering QS 3 doesn't work as much in World.

Try to practice it on body slams or something at first. Then you can go for charges and other strong attacks that are slower. Definitely don't try doing it on pokes or faster attacks from monsters lol.

[Hammer Of Evil]

Originally posted by x:

I just started using longsword and mostly I'm doing fine with the weapon. The only thing I'm having hard time to use it correctly is Iai spirit slash. I'm trying to time it when monster attacking me but I mostly failing it. Is this like dark souls parry or nah? I'm having hard time to understand this attack. ''Time this against a monster's attack to repeatedly connect with the attack and keep your spirit gauge up.'' This is what it is says in the weapon control page. What am I doing wrong?

hey hows it going

ya so im not a ls expert but i've done around 300 kills with it, and taken out some annoying flying tempered lizards so im not too bad with it.

so basically treat it like a dodge. you're sheathed and ready to go, fingers over the button. wait till the monster 'just' comes to make contact like when you'd hit your dodge roll, that's when you spirit slash.

if you were successful, you wont lose a spirit level and see the triple hit after.

sometimes though, you'll see that you countered properly(gain spirit gauge) but your slash misses. learning to aim it is a thing, too lol.

[Indoril Nerevar]

Originally posted by Fun:

The timing is really tight, so almost frame perfect.

The attack is really situational here. I personally only use it on really easy tells instead of spamming it like you do on Rise. Especially considering QS 3 doesn't work as much in World.

Try to practice it on body slams or something at first. Then you can go for charges and other strong attacks that are slower. Definitely don't try doing it on pokes or faster attacks from monsters lol.

Thank you!! Ohh I see. I was trying to use it against teostra's fast attacks lmao. I learned the foresight slash really well with practicing against tempered teostra. But Iai slash is really situational you are right! I felt the same while trying to use it correctly. I had really hard time to find a good use and it's so hard to time it.
Which monster do you recommend to practice iai slash? I want to get used to it. Foresight slash is so fun! I want to master iai slash too

[Popcorn]

Originally posted by x:

Originally posted by Fun:

The timing is really tight, so almost frame perfect.

The attack is really situational here. I personally only use it on really easy tells instead of spamming it like you do on Rise. Especially considering QS 3 doesn't work as much in World.

Try to practice it on body slams or something at first. Then you can go for charges and other strong attacks that are slower. Definitely don't try doing it on pokes or faster attacks from monsters lol.

Thank you!! Ohh I see. I was trying to use it against teostra's fast attacks lmao. I learned the foresight slash really well with practicing against tempered teostra. But Iai slash is really situational you are right! I felt the same while trying to use it correctly. I had really hard time to find a good use and it's so hard to time it.
Which monster do you recommend to practice iai slash? I want to get used to it. Foresight slash is so fun! I want to master iai slash too

It varies from monster to monster, so in the end, you're going to need to practice against them anyways

[Indoril Nerevar]

Originally posted by Hammer Of Evil:

Originally posted by x:

I just started using longsword and mostly I'm doing fine with the weapon. The only thing I'm having hard time to use it correctly is Iai spirit slash. I'm trying to time it when monster attacking me but I mostly failing it. Is this like dark souls parry or nah? I'm having hard time to understand this attack. ''Time this against a monster's attack to repeatedly connect with the attack and keep your spirit gauge up.'' This is what it is says in the weapon control page. What am I doing wrong?

hey hows it going

ya so im not a ls expert but i've done around 300 kills with it, and taken out some annoying flying tempered lizards so im not too bad with it.

so basically treat it like a dodge. you're sheathed and ready to go, fingers over the button. wait till the monster 'just' comes to make contact like when you'd hit your dodge roll, that's when you spirit slash.

if you were successful, you'll get a spirit level and see the triple hit after.

sometimes though, you'll see that you countered properly(gain spirit gauge) but your slash misses. learning to aim it is a thing, too lol.

Ohh I have to use it just before getting hit. Got it. Also against attacks like nergigantes shoulder attack. What do you do in this situation? Foresight or iai ?

[Ember]

Originally posted by Hammer Of Evil:

if you were successful, you'll get a spirit level and see the triple hit after.

Nope. You don't get gauge levels if you succeed. This only applies to Rise currently.

Originally posted by x:

Which monster do you recommend to practice iai slash? I want to get used to it. Foresight slash is so fun! I want to master iai slash too

Probably Diablos, Tigrex and Zinogre.

[Indoril Nerevar]

Originally posted by Fun:

Originally posted by Hammer Of Evil:

if you were successful, you'll get a spirit level and see the triple hit after.

Nope. You don't get gauge levels if you succeed. This only applies to Rise currently.

Originally posted by x:

Which monster do you recommend to practice iai slash? I want to get used to it. Foresight slash is so fun! I want to master iai slash too

Probably Diablos, Tigrex and Zinogre.

Ok thank you

[Hammer Of Evil]

Originally posted by Fun:

Originally posted by Hammer Of Evil:

if you were successful, you'll get a spirit level and see the triple hit after.

Nope. You don't get gauge levels if you succeed. This only applies to Rise currently.

ya, i mis-spoke cause im learning german french and norweigian at the same time.

*you dont lose the spirit gauge when you hit spirit iai, was what i meant.

[Greslus]

Imagine when you are pressing the Iai Slash button (R2/RT), your character whole hitbox has 6 or so (out of 60fps) frames where if an active damaging hitbox touches it, it will nullify any incoming damage (outside of active DoT like fire or bleed). Any monster's attack with an active hurtbox moving towards your character is usually a good moment to pull off an Iai slash.

Some Example of this are; Nergigante hand jabs and his hand sweeps, Odogaron's jabs, Teostra's side drift bite, etc

Of course, if you feel like even if you pull of a successful Iai slash, you are going to get hit, just remember that Iai draw(Y/triangle) has the same i-frames as a successful Iai slash. But with the draw, you can chain it into a foresight slash. Thus avoiding a possible incoming 2nd attack from a monster's combo wombo.

PS: a successful Iai draw/slash will not nullify incoming Pin/Burn/Bleed/Poison/Para. I would personally always take a bleed or burn to my face, but gold rath poison or para, or any Pin attacks might not be a good idea to pull it off on them.

Also assuming you've played Demon's Souls, just imagine the Iai timing is as tight as the parry timing in DeS. Hope this helps.