why no chains weapon?

[Xeno Metora]

would seem like the perfect weapon for this game, after castlevania and god of war, chains and monsters go together so good

a game about killing monsters without a chain weapon feels off, cmon capcom

[JPM岩]

Well, looking into the history of chain weapons, chain weapons are only effective against people. In fact, every chain weapon in history has been designed specifically to fight people and are ineffective for animals. What's also interesting is that theres only two points in history where chains are used in weaponry, Ancient China and 18th Century Russia.

[Xorbah]

Just give us Tonfas like they have in MHFO.

[Lusus Symphonia]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Hare+Guu!:

If anything, I'd like smaller bodies. I don't like how the girls are just dudes with bigger pecs.

You mean "just dudes with bags of fat over their pectoral muscles." Because I assure you that they do not have bigger pectoral muscles.

Not to be that guy..

Ursprungligen skrivet av RubyCante:

same thing with fist..
i want to punch and karate combo and grapple monster to death..
we already have ryu-sakura armor and rajang fist..come one capcom

At this point, punching things is just a power fantasy but so is lifting 300lb greatswords without having arms the size of tree trunks so I'll be down for having a boxing match with a Rajang to reassure my masculinity.

[Fregi]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Red Monk:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Hare+Guu!:

If anything, I'd like smaller bodies. I don't like how the girls are just dudes with bigger pecs.

You mean "just dudes with bags of fat over their pectoral muscles." Because I assure you that they do not have bigger pectoral muscles.

Not to be that guy..

Ursprungligen skrivet av RubyCante:

same thing with fist..
i want to punch and karate combo and grapple monster to death..
we already have ryu-sakura armor and rajang fist..come one capcom

At this point, punching things is just a power fantasy but so is lifting 300lb greatswords without having arms the size of tree trunks so I'll be down for having a boxing match with a Rajang to reassure my masculinity.

rajang gets ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ decked by some girl with a high pitched voice

[Frogged]

Ursprungligen skrivet av JPM岩:

Well, looking into the history of chain weapons, chain weapons are only effective against people. In fact, every chain weapon in history has been designed specifically to fight people and are ineffective for animals. What's also interesting is that theres only two points in history where chains are used in weaponry, Ancient China and 18th Century Russia.

Thanks for the history lesson but it's a game man. Nothing is realistic, it would be neat to see a weapon that incorporates chains.

[Flip_Light]

Ursprungligen skrivet av JPM岩:

Well, looking into the history of chain weapons, chain weapons are only effective against people. In fact, every chain weapon in history has been designed specifically to fight people and are ineffective for animals. What's also interesting is that theres only two points in history where chains are used in weaponry, Ancient China and 18th Century Russia.

Japanese shinobi used chain weapons as well, as did flails in midieval europe. They're more prevelant then most people realize I think :o

[Lusus Symphonia]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Flip_Light:

Ursprungligen skrivet av JPM岩:

Well, looking into the history of chain weapons, chain weapons are only effective against people. In fact, every chain weapon in history has been designed specifically to fight people and are ineffective for animals. What's also interesting is that theres only two points in history where chains are used in weaponry, Ancient China and 18th Century Russia.

Japanese shinobi used chain weapons as well, as did flails in midieval europe. They're more prevelant then most people realize I think :o

Pretty sure a Ninja would use anything to kill their target, if a chain happened to be their best bet, they would use one but I doubt they realistically fought with a chain when the poo hit the fan.

[brambles]

People trying to compare this to real life are hilarious. Like we actually go around bashing animals with giant musical instruments or hammers that need sharpening.

Otherwise, I think having a spear/javelin type weapon (with actual jabs/thrusts rather than bugs and helicopter moves) or as the OP noted, a whip would be pretty neat. Imagine a whip that has a spike on its tip and blows up on impact.

[Netsa]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Pay:

Ursprungligen skrivet av stopher121:

Get your Dauntless out of here!

It works pretty good in dauntless so why not?

Nothing works good in Dauntless.

Long-ranged melee weapons are actually in virtually every Hunter-clone except Monster Hunter itself, so it's not really a Dauntless thing anyway.

They can be hard to balance, though, since they're essentially Bows.

[Flip_Light]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Red Monk:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Flip_Light:

Japanese shinobi used chain weapons as well, as did flails in midieval europe. They're more prevelant then most people realize I think :o

Pretty sure a Ninja would use anything to kill their target, if a chain happened to be their best bet, they would use one but I doubt they realistically fought with a chain when the poo hit the fan.

There is literally a fighting style that uses a scythe-shaped blade at the end of a chain that is practiced regularly even to this day by the "last shinobi." Look into the kusarigama.

[Tregrenos]

Ursprungligen skrivet av RubyCante:

same thing with fist..
i want to punch and karate combo and grapple monster to death..
we already have ryu-sakura armor and rajang fist..come one capcom

Only the Admiral can use the Fist weapon.

[JPM岩]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Flip_Light:

Ursprungligen skrivet av JPM岩:

Well, looking into the history of chain weapons, chain weapons are only effective against people. In fact, every chain weapon in history has been designed specifically to fight people and are ineffective for animals. What's also interesting is that theres only two points in history where chains are used in weaponry, Ancient China and 18th Century Russia.

Japanese shinobi used chain weapons as well, as did flails in midieval europe. They're more prevelant then most people realize I think :o

Flails used hinges, flails having chains is a fantasy thing, a more recent one at that. Also, every video I can find of Kusarigama looks so goofy. Fantasy I feel actually makes the weapon look effective.

[Flip_Light]

Ursprungligen skrivet av JPM岩:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Flip_Light:

Japanese shinobi used chain weapons as well, as did flails in midieval europe. They're more prevelant then most people realize I think :o

Flails used hinges, flails having chains is a fantasy thing, a more recent one at that. Also, every video I can find of Kusarigama looks so goofy. Fantasy I feel actually makes the weapon look effective.

Chakram throwing also looks goofy. So does using the chinese hook-blades. That doesn't mean it wasn't used lmao.

Also no, we DO have historical sources of chains being used on flails or polearms. They weren't super common, but they DID exist.

"The other type of European flail is a shorter weapon consisting of a wooden haft connected by a chain, rope, or leather to one or more roughly spherical striking ends. Modern works variously refer to this particular weapon as a "military flail", "mace-and-chain" or "chain mace", and sometimes erroneously label them as simply a "mace" or morning star, terms which technically apply only to rigid weapons. Some historians refer to this weapon as a kettenmorgenstern ("chain morning star") to distinguish it from the rigid weapon.

The haft is usually shown as approximately 1–4 feet long and the head can be a smooth metal sphere or a somewhat geometric shape, with some variants covered in spikes. The chain also varies, sometimes being no more than a few links to form a hinge, while others exceed the length of the haft and are several feet long. Artwork from the 15th century to the early 17th century shows most of these weapons having handles longer than 3 ft and being wielded with two hands, but a few are shown used in a single hand or with a haft too short to be used two-handed.

Despite being very common in fictional works such as cartoons, films and role-playing games as a "quintessential medieval weapon", historical information about this type of flail is somewhat scarce. A few doubt they existed at all due to the number of pieces sitting in museums that turned out to be forgeries, as well as the unrealistic way they are depicted in art. Archaeologically, however, a type of military flail known as a kisten, with a non-spiked head and a leather, rather than chain, connection to the haft is attested in the 10th century in the territories of the Rus, probably being adopted from either the Avars or Khazars. This weapon had spread into central and eastern Europe in the 11th–13th centuries and may be considered an ancestor of the ball-and-chain flail. Waldman (2005) documented several seemingly authentic examples of the ball-and-chain flail from private collections as well as several restored illustrations from German, French, and Czech sources. He states that the scarcity of artifacts and artistic depictions, combined with the almost complete lack of text references, suggests they were relatively rare weapons and never saw widespread use. One of the reasons was the hazard the weapon posed to its wielder, especially the varieties with long chains and short handles. A missed swing would still retain momentum, causing the striking end to continue its arc around, potentially into the user's hand or body. A miss could also throw the user off balance, and even if a blow were struck, there would be a dangerously long recovery time before the user could ready another swing or defend himself."

Basically yes, the chain flails did exist but they're extremely scarce and the leather-headed ones are far more "common." We don't have much textual proof of them being used in a widespread manner, but they did exist and were used. We do however have artwork, old weapons that were found, etc.

[Lusus Symphonia]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Flip_Light:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Red Monk:

Pretty sure a Ninja would use anything to kill their target, if a chain happened to be their best bet, they would use one but I doubt they realistically fought with a chain when the poo hit the fan.

There is literally a fighting style that uses a scythe-shaped blade at the end of a chain that is practiced regularly even to this day by the "last shinobi." Look into the kusarigama.

Yeah, that kind of stuff is just as cringe as UK knighting contests, not even remotely close to what went on in the past.

[CourtesyFlush09]

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