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The simple reason is that game devs are not security devs. When they get tasked with designing security you inevitably allow and enable disasters like Block Ninja, where a poorly trained security team ended up cracking an entire console. That is not the sort of liability you want to place on a game team.
Outsourcing it doesn't really solve the problem, it just pushes the liability down the road. Hiring a bad security team is just as bad as having a bad team in house, except now your reputation is dependent on their own. That's hardly an ideal situation to be in.
The complex reason is that you don't need aggressive rootkit access to know when a player is breaking the rules. If a hunter watns to deal 9999 damage, guess what? They're cheating. If they are getting hit and not taking damage, they're cheating. This isn't rocket science. They have clearly desynced from the rest of the multiplayer session and can be dropped from the game.
Not everyone is a Japanese hikkikomori who can spend all day grinding in video games. Camcop better keep that in mind for Wilds otherwise I'm just gonna whip up Cheat Engine so thaat I can have some fun.
It might be bias, but in both playthroughs I think I ran into someone blatantly cheating once. Heavy Bowgun user that one shot a pink rathain if I remember right (which isn't saying much since HBG builds can get downright absurd). Any other time, people were probably cheating in gems for their builds, armors, what have you, but it was not a blip on my radar during the many SOS responses. Hunts went as normal and everyone walks away not sure whether anything truly happened or not.
I've SOSed on the hardest monsters in the game and still haven't run into people who ran in with a god iron weapon and slapped them dead. If they're out there, they're probably doing it in a solo hunt. If people want to cheat or manipulate the game to speed up the grind, I truly don't care. I'll play the game how I want, they can play how they want. I only have a major problem with it if you come in and decimate the monster in seconds for someone else.
but is also an art to find these glitches in the matrix and simply push the limits to a new level
you can already argue that capcom added many cheaty tools to the game over the years
like the mantles, plunderblade, which allows to get the rarest monster parts without beating the monster, option to restock healing items at the tent, option to leave break bodyparts and leave the match without capturing/killing and you still get theese broken parts, which makes it easier for casual players, while diehard fans scream buhh it is too easy instead of creating rules for themself to ignore these feature like they did in the speedrun community with ta rule
so what was your point with these unlimited healing items? who is even using unlimited healing items in speedruns? you are clearly losing time while doing fancy heal breaks
kino provided at least some useful alternative video, but i guess the average joe won't understand what happened in that one japanese video where the guy placed the fancy snowman at the end of the fatalis fight without explanation through english subtitles and this is also already some type of cheat because it is clearly a leftover dev testing mechanic which still helps casual players alot who aren't on the level of fancy speedrunners
said snowman also pushed all speedrun number to a new level similiar to cluster ammo, sticky or slice until capcom nerfed or patched the stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz7bf3x0cA0
teamdarkside another team known for cheating but they also provided cool videos about max dmg etc, one hit challenge etc
idevaste might have cheated through ai manipulation, he still provided enough useful content for the community, showcased and explained certain game mechanics.
the world isn't just black and white
here you screaming for more useless anticheat which never worked even in the big pvp title with tons of layers like easy anticheat etc
who solved the riddle around idevaste cheating, it was the community, wasn't it, which shows that the hivemind works better than your stupid anticheat.
one annoying anticheat mechanic in mhw was the stupid blocked spots in multiplayer matches, so you were unable to rejoin, if you had an dc
guess what many casuals complained about constant dc's, because they had bad isp's for gaming, used wifi etc. and hated to drop out in certain tough fight, because they failed to solo,
but it was also an option to cheat, for example you could use dc in behemoth fights during last em, if your team screwed up, destroyed the comets and could not jump, to win with one cart instead of 3
same procedure was used in guilding land on consoles to speed level the regions, you simply rejoined and instantly captured the weakened monster of a friend
this annoyance was finally removed in rise and you could just rejoin your friends after dc
Not sure about speed running but when it comes to match making it's been very rare. There is stuff like hunter pi but if you're that paranoid maybe match making isn't for you.
If you're super anal you could just make friends online to play with who you trust to not cheat.
are you really that annoyed about a poor peasant, who needs unlimited healing items because, he is more busy with healing than attacking the monster.
iam pretty sure there are many female players with nursing syndrome, who like to constantly heal these poor guys through widerange and the guy asap carts when the healer needs to restock at the tent. maybe capcom needs to add a special forcaster which can be used to evade 2players to the camps instead of one, so the nurse can make sure her patient won't do any silly things but it is only an issue in random matches, while premade teams use their forcasters together or coordinate the healing process, you might need 3 healers to keep that one guy alive, so they can rotate in and out
meanwhile health augment is also locked behind endgame, which makes it harder for beginners, i could call it false progression simply to trigger certain people
defender gear already helped many of these beginner and triggered a huge controversy. the beginners had an hard awakening in iceborne, so capcom should also add an similiar armor for people who play other games in story/ easy mode.
That is how it works in society the punishment is less harsh if you were a good member of the society and provided certain services. There is also this part about forgiveness in christianity. hate the game not the player. the algorythm does the rest when you use certain keywords and for specific niche area exists only one or 2 videos.
Is there any solution for this? No. It will keep happening. What can be done about it? The only way to combat this is for the community itself to remain vigilant and wherever possible create proof standards for speedruns that make cheating as hard as possible.
Also a reminder for some people who seem to struggle understanding the actual scale of this problem: speedrunning is an extremely niche activity, even for video games that are well suited for it. A vast majoirty of people playing this game will never care, nor be affected by somebody cheating a TA run. So don't be surprised if this is something almost nobody is talking about, because that's only natural. It only reinforces the fact that this issue is something the MH speedrunning community needs to work out on their own internally, just like in every single case like this for any other video game.
Crying for implementation of (useless) anti-cheat software, something that would impact literally the whole playerbase and make modding even harder (without preventing cheating from happening by the way), just because some literal whos cheated a TA 99.99% of the player never even seen, or because you've seen a cheater in multiplayer a couple of times is the equivalent of dropping a nuke on a city just because you've seen a rat on a street. There is a concept called a "proportionate response", I advise looking it up.
There is one already, the ,,don't take your cheats to MP" rule
BUT people make up their own rules. The only solution is to end sites like NEXUS. Cheats are too popular because of them. But it's not gonna happen so it is what it is.
Can you imagine being that sort of person? What a hollow and meaningless existence, especially when you are exposed like this. I can't even imagine what that feels like, is it easy for them or do they just put on a front to deal with the inner turmoil? They want so desperately for the benefit of people thinking they are cool, and then they lose it (and then some) forever.
Fake people, what a world.