CB in solo endgame

[Memento Vivere]

Can anyone explain or give a video (not speedruns) of how to play with this weapon in the endgame? Sometimes it feels impossible to hit a monster with a SAED, because there isn't enough of window to hit even with a guard point.

I know how to beat a raging brachydios with AEDs after some tries, but it still feels clunky as hell. And I still can't figure out how to hit Kulve Taroth's chest with a SAED. There's always not enough time to hit him without getting hit back (except maybe 2 attacks, but there's a DPS check)

I would love to hear some advice from more experienced players. I know how to use guard points, and I use them, but it's still not enough to use this weapon properly against endgame monsters. Especially for monsters with a DPS check or for monsters without windows to use a saed (like raging brachy, furious rajang, etc)

And sorry for my english :)

[Kaldor Draigo]

I think IDeVaste had a decent CB guide and there is probably more you can just find by... searching on youtube.

Against monsters like Furious Rajang it's better to just be patient, learn its very few openings to land AEDs on rather than using SAED.

Also you said no speedruns but, speedruns are a great way to see which moves and combos are the most effective against certain monsters.
Yeah you can fully disregard stuff like Heroics runs or insane stuff like that, but you can still adapt the core concepts of the runs, like which works best against this monster, SAED? or the hitzones for SAED aren't that great so it's best to use Savage Axe?, etc

[Memento Vivere]

Originally posted by COH:

Also you said no speedruns but, speedruns are a great way to see which moves and combos are the most effective against certain monsters.

I partially agree. But they often consist of the monster being stunned 90% of the time, which is hard to achieve without a top build and perfect knowledge of the game. So their strategies aren't always suitable for normal play, and a 7 minute speedrun and a normal 20 minute battle without top gear will still be different. Don't get me wrong, I watch them and take note of some things, but still suffer a lot in endgame

And thanks for the tips!

[Kaldor Draigo]

Originally posted by Memento Vivere:

I partially agree. But they often consist of the monster being stunned 90% of the time, which is hard to achieve without a top build and perfect knowledge of the game. So their strategies aren't always suitable for normal play, and a 7 minute speedrun and a normal 20 minute battle without top gear will still be different. Don't get me wrong, I watch them and take note of some things, but still suffer a lot in endgame

And thanks for the tips!

Fair enough, as you gear up and get more comfortable with the weapon you start to get a feel of which moves you should use and with top tier gear it is not that crazy to be able to make monsters flinch or even stunlock them.

Learning stuffs like sidesteps, backslash to reposition before a SAED, etc are things probably covered in the better guides that are simple but rather advanced moves you can slowly start learning to enrich your moveset usage of the weapon.

I used to main GS back in Base World, but at some point in endgame someone I knew from the game taught me the basics of CB and never dropped it after that.
It's a weapon that heavily rewards patience, not just in the hunts, but playing, it takes a lot of time to master, but it's worth the payoff.

[Tenryū]

should watch AkantoreX youtube for some CB runs

SAED and AED can't be spam freely in solo Master Rank, especially most late big monsters like KT, Safi, Alatreon, and Fatty. You need to learn monster moves and its position, it's much easier to use savage axe in MR

I use focus and offensive guard (guard up and guard too) if I want to play SAED and AED, with charged blade everytime and release Both SAED and AED after guard point if I got the window

I need hundreds hours to learn CB back in MH4U, it's more clunky back then but the damage is really good

[VI]

As said by others, savage-axe is the most efficient way to play since iceborne against most monsters, and if you get an opening for an SAED, cancel it with an AED to keep your axe powered up.

[SotiCoto]

Originally posted by Memento Vivere:

Can anyone explain or give a video (not speedruns) of how to play with this weapon in the endgame? Sometimes it feels impossible to hit a monster with a SAED, because there isn't enough of window to hit even with a guard point.

Then don't SAED.
I don't.
In fact my entire CB modus operandi is to go into Savage Axe mode and then alternate horizontal and vertical swings until my phials run out. The horizontal ones in particular are good because you can get two full swings for just one phial. Unfortunately you can't really spam horizontal continuously because it will auto-combo into a SAED and then all the precious charges and whatnot get lost. So... double-horizontal followed by upwards vertical (sending any other bladeys flyingin multi) and repeat.

... Basically I just do mostly the same things that I did with Valor CB in MHGU.... though I'm fully aware it doesn't work the same way.

[VI]

Originally posted by SotiCoto:

Unfortunately you can't really spam horizontal continuously because it will auto-combo into a SAED and then all the precious charges and whatnot get lost. So... double-horizontal followed by upwards vertical (sending any other bladeys flyingin multi) and repeat.

if you wanna spamm ED2 without using upward swing because there are team mates near you, you can loop as long you got slinger ammos : ED2 (circle) -> slinger burst (L2) -> ED2

[DaBa]

There are SAED windows on every single monster in the game I can assure you, both including and excluding guard points. Also it's not like SAED is the only way to play Charge Blade in Iceborne, you also have Savage Axe. Many people would say it's actually THE way to play the weapon, and if you can master it I would tend to agree with that sentiment. It is not only more powerful than SAED spam, it's also more flexible and reliable.

[Kaldor Draigo]

Originally posted by vic(sic):

Originally posted by SotiCoto:

Unfortunately you can't really spam horizontal continuously because it will auto-combo into a SAED and then all the precious charges and whatnot get lost. So... double-horizontal followed by upwards vertical (sending any other bladeys flyingin multi) and repeat.

if you wanna spamm ED2 without using upward swing because there are team mates near you, you can loop as long you got slinger ammos : ED2 (circle) -> slinger burst (L2) -> ED2

Alternatively if there is no slinger ammo for whatever reason, you can delay the imput for Rising Slash, which will partially interrupt the combo and let you do the Axe Smash move which still can combo into Elemental Discharge combos.

It's still fluid enough and lets you output high DPS without yeeting your teammates.

[Memento Vivere]

Thanks guys <3 I have tried to use savage axe before, but only for some mobile monsters. Guess I'll try savage axe for the endgame

[SotiCoto]

Originally posted by vic(sic):

if you wanna spamm ED2 without using upward swing because there are team mates near you, you can loop as long you got slinger ammos : ED2 (circle) -> slinger burst (L2) -> ED2

Hmm. Curious. Never tried that. Might have to give it a shot. I'm not really used to using slinger ammo in combat for the most part.

[PGN]

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[ciel]

Originally posted by vic(sic):

Originally posted by SotiCoto:

Unfortunately you can't really spam horizontal continuously because it will auto-combo into a SAED and then all the precious charges and whatnot get lost. So... double-horizontal followed by upwards vertical (sending any other bladeys flyingin multi) and repeat.

if you wanna spamm ED2 without using upward swing because there are team mates near you, you can loop as long you got slinger ammos : ED2 (circle) -> slinger burst (L2) -> ED2

you can also avoid upswings by waiting for your hunter to backstep after ED2, which will combo into a slam, which can be followed by another ED2 or dash slam. no slinger ammo needed.

[Anoyun?]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6bicJCB_Ug&ab_channel=ShortD3vil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTaWcAzvpqg&ab_channel=Michael_WMH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qS-lmdLRWo&ab_channel=Tauntmaster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJwvrmuK000&t=8s&ab_channel=SH3RMSY

there's alot more on youtube just search for it.