Anyone has actual numbers on tempered and arch tempered monsters ?

[Tictactucrac]

i like to know numbers and I can't find them on the internet. All it says is basically, tempered is stronger than normal, and arch tempered is stronger and healthier than tempered and has more moves.

Which is fine, but... I was completing some event missions yesterday, and because I'm in master rank now I decided I could easily take on arch tempered Nergigante from high rank events. Also because I completely destroy in seconds the high rank tempered Nergigante.

Well, that went poorly. The fight went on forever, it was harder than any of the master rank monsters I fought to this day (including harder than the campain Nergigante right before Shara ishvalda) and I carted 3 times, and now I really wanna know how much stronger are arch tempered versions relative to tempered ones in their respective difficulty (high/master), because one day I will have to fight a master rank arch tempered Nergigante and I'm terrified

[Smaugi]

There is NO AT master rank nergi.
There is however AT Namielle and Velkhana on Master Rank.
AT monsters are ALOT stronger , AT nergi has about as much hp as ruiner nergi but deals a bit less damage with a diffrent moveset. Same for all AT's on hr , they are around their normal MR version in HP.
You can check kiranco for more in depth mutlipliers for their stats etc.

[Tictactucrac]

Thank you

That's a relief that there is no AT MR nergi but also kind of a shame isn't it ? It's basically the mascot of this game

[cruste]

https://mhworld.kiranico.com/de/monsters/aYaUV/nergigante
26k hp and 8x more dmg
while normal nergi has around 7k

https://mhworld.kiranico.com/de/monsters/oAnim/ruinen-nergigante
ruiner from shara quest has lower numbers compared to the mr99 version only 15k hp

isnt it pretty easy with mr gear while you have around 1100 armor instead of 450-600 from hr gear

keep destroying the spikes to get nonstop ko from doing it
time the attack so you aren't breaking them while he is knocked out

[Tictactucrac]

Originally posted by cruste:

isnt it pretty easy with mr gear while you have around 1100 armor instead of 450-600 from hr gear

I have 900ish armor but yeah that's what I thought, turns out it's still really hard for me

Also I was very used to having mushroomancer skill and ever since I changed my gear i'm having trouble adapting back to normal potions

AT Nerg was the last DLC monster to appear on the base game. It was really meant to be the most chalenging fight with the HR gear. There were some methods to cheese it though, like KO with sticky (no clutch claw back then), sticky sticky sticky, sleep under pillar 1, sleep under pilar 2, temporal mantle (lasted a lot before it was nerfed), cluster cluster cluster, in phase 2 sleep again, some bombs, turf with the Lion King and at that point it would be at 20% and go back to sleep :p. I don't know if ATs have more health, but what they do have is a whole lot more of speed and they hit like a truck. The Nergs that appear in MR are very pathetic in comparison. The equivalent to AT Nerg in MR should be more like AT Velk, which was also the last monster in Icerborne. It feels kind of like Nerg if it just spammed spike attacks all over the place all the time.

[overmage]

Kiranico has the numbers