Where should i exactly farm Kjar Swords?

[Smile]

HR Kulve Taroth Siege or MR Eternal Golden Rush event?
It's still not clear to me what should i be doing. I think they made this overly complicated.

Should i farm for the swords in the siege event and then upgrade them with MR Eternal Golden Rush materials?
Am i able to craft MR Kjar Swords directly with MR Golden Rush materials or the only way to get them is by farming HR Siege first?

[Smaugi]

You can do MR hunt (much faster and has solo scaling) , use its drops to meld the weapons at melder (kjaar alchemy , still random) and then upgrade them with the same materials.

[D. Flame]

First off, are you able to solo the MR one reliably in around 15 minutes or less?

[rive1573]

do both, which ever has a slot open. completing the HR event has a chance to give you the weapon outright. MR event gives you a chance though the melder. materials dropped from both will upgrade the weapon when you get it. just make sure to pick everything up and break all the parts. also need a lot of large elder dragon bones for the melding.

[Lin]

Do the MR event quest version. This assumes you can reliably and consistently get the kill.

No, you cannot directly craft the kjarr weapons. You have to go through the kjarr alchemy at melder.

A note about the kjarr melding: if you aren't getting what you want, make sure to sell at least 1 of the 3 things melded. This will increase the odds of you getting something you don't have/rarer on the next meld. You'll notice that you get a sort of sparkle or shiny animation on your next melded batch; if you sell nothing, the 3 slots will simply appear.

Additionally, assuming you do eventually end up with several materials in general, use the dragonsphire gem on actual weapon upgrade (full meld or full upgrade). Meanwhile, burn all the nuggets (10 points at melder, 1 point on upgrade) on the melding part. Won't matter after you get everything you want, but should lower how much you need to farm. Assuming you do want several elemental weapons.

[FAT WANZER]

depending on luck you get weapon you want or 3 kjarr ice dual blades 5 times in a row

[Smile]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

First off, are you able to solo the MR one reliably in around 15 minutes or less?

Nice! I didn't knew i could solo him

Originally posted by Lin:

A note about the kjarr melding: if you aren't getting what you want, make sure to sell at least 1 of the 3 things melded. This will increase the odds of you getting something you don't have/rarer on the next meld. You'll notice that you get a sort of sparkle or shiny animation on your next melded batch; if you sell nothing, the 3 slots will simply appear

I'm not sure if i'm following up. By selling the weapons, you mean selling it for zenny or is there another way to "recycle" those weapons to get materials?

[Lin]

Originally posted by Smile:

Originally posted by Lin:

A note about the kjarr melding: if you aren't getting what you want, make sure to sell at least 1 of the 3 things melded. This will increase the odds of you getting something you don't have/rarer on the next meld. You'll notice that you get a sort of sparkle or shiny animation on your next melded batch; if you sell nothing, the 3 slots will simply appear

I'm not sure if i'm following up. By selling the weapons, you mean selling it for zenny or is there another way to "recycle" those weapons to get materials?

Yeah that's what I meant, should have clarified "sell for zenny while still in that post-meld window". If you do that, the next batch you meld should have the "sparkle" animation, which seems to be an increased chance at weapons you don't have or at least have less copies of. Took me a long time years ago to realize that was what was happening, and why I didn't get certain weapons despite having over 10 copies of several things.

Note the window does list how many copies of a particular weapon you have as you hover over them, so just sell any that you have more than 1 of. Or 2, if you really want to keep a high rank version for some reason.

[Smile]

Originally posted by Lin:

Originally posted by Smile:

I'm not sure if i'm following up. By selling the weapons, you mean selling it for zenny or is there another way to "recycle" those weapons to get materials?

Yeah that's what I meant, should have clarified "sell for zenny while still in that post-meld window". If you do that, the next batch you meld should have the "sparkle" animation, which seems to be an increased chance at weapons you don't have or at least have less copies of. Took me a long time years ago to realize that was what was happening, and why I didn't get certain weapons despite having over 10 copies of several things.

Note the window does list how many copies of a particular weapon you have as you hover over them, so just sell any that you have more than 1 of. Or 2, if you really want to keep a high rank version for some reason.

Nice, i ll give it a try! Ty

Siege was the first siege type quest that appeared as DLC in the base game. Farming all the HR weapons would take many many hours even with an extraordinarily competent team. MR KT was eventually released in Iceborne and introduced the shortcut to get the weapons through melding. In general, that's why everything about the game is overly complicated. It contains pretty much all the weekly quests that have been introduced throughout more than 2 years after release.

[AurumHawke]

Originally posted by Lin:

Yeah that's what I meant, should have clarified "sell for zenny while still in that post-meld window". If you do that, the next batch you meld should have the "sparkle" animation, which seems to be an increased chance at weapons you don't have or at least have less copies of. Took me a long time years ago to realize that was what was happening, and why I didn't get certain weapons despite having over 10 copies of several things.

Melding RNG isn't random, it cycles through the set of numbers predetermined from when it was seeded. This prevents save-scumming because you have to go through that meld to get to the next batch (while it still allows save-scumming to keep the materials you would have used). So the best way through melds is just do them in bulk.

I don't currently remember whether that's across melds or per meld option; and it's plausible that selecting a different option cycles the set more or less, but I don't have confirmation right now whether it does or not.
Seems like a fairly short test though.

[Lin]

Originally posted by AurumHawke:

I was curious myself to see, so I did the quick test.

Load up save file, melds of no sell, only golden nugget+ used to keep things consistent:
kjarr buster decay, kjarr slicer water, kjarr hammer blast
taroth pipe paralysis, taroth hammer thunder, taroth hammer thunder
taroth hammer water, kjarr glaive crusher, taroth blitz support
kjarr assault rage, taroth blaze sleep, taroth crest sleep

Replace and reload save file and try again with selling:
kjarr buster decay, kjarr slicer water(sell this), kjarr hammer blast
taroth pipe paralysis, taroth hammer thunder, taroth hammer thunder(sell)
taroth hammer water, kjarr glaive crusher, taroth blitz support (sell all)
kjarr assault rage, taroth blaze sleep, taroth crest sleep

So, I'm completely and 100% wrong and it is in fact just seeded RNG, with no way to change it.

Originally posted by Smile:

Sorry for the incorrect information; it's all pure RNG. Best of luck on your farming.

[Smile]

Originally posted by Lin:

Originally posted by AurumHawke:

I was curious myself to see, so I did the quick test.

Load up save file, melds of no sell, only golden nugget+ used to keep things consistent:
kjarr buster decay, kjarr slicer water, kjarr hammer blast
taroth pipe paralysis, taroth hammer thunder, taroth hammer thunder
taroth hammer water, kjarr glaive crusher, taroth blitz support
kjarr assault rage, taroth blaze sleep, taroth crest sleep

Replace and reload save file and try again with selling:
kjarr buster decay, kjarr slicer water(sell this), kjarr hammer blast
taroth pipe paralysis, taroth hammer thunder, taroth hammer thunder(sell)
taroth hammer water, kjarr glaive crusher, taroth blitz support (sell all)
kjarr assault rage, taroth blaze sleep, taroth crest sleep

So, I'm completely and 100% wrong and it is in fact just seeded RNG, with no way to change it.

Originally posted by Smile:

Sorry for the incorrect information; it's all pure RNG. Best of luck on your farming.

Yesterday i farmed all day, trying to get the Kjarr Sword Stream, and still, i couldn't get it.
What i've noticed is that most of the times, the game doesn't even include longswords on my loot. I was getting everything else, except longswords.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's like the game knowing what is your main weapon and lower your chances of getting it, since it already tracks your weapon playtime.

[AurumHawke]

Originally posted by Lin:

I was curious myself to see, so I did the quick test.

Load up save file, melds of no sell, only golden nugget+ used to keep things consistent:

I also needed to remind myself, so now I know my next 3rd Kjarr meld is Kjarr (GS) Decay + 5th is Kjarr (Bow) Decay, my next 3rd Kulve meld is Kjarr (GS) Water, and my next 6th Steel meld is Expert, regardless of the post-result action and order they're done in. (All the rest were the same each time too)
Which additionally (re-)confirms each meld option is tracked separately.

Originally posted by Smile:

Yesterday i farmed all day, trying to get the Kjarr Sword Stream, and still, i couldn't get it.
What i've noticed is that most of the times, the game doesn't even include longswords on my loot. I was getting everything else, except longswords.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's like the game knowing what is your main weapon and lower your chances of getting it, since it already tracks your weapon playtime.

We do know meld results are from a sequence at least as old as your first meld of that option, and it would take a lot of quests to change the record at that point.
I think I didn't get Kjarr (CB) Ice until, maybe, somewhere around the 100th meld. Which, yeah, one out of hundreds of (weighted) options. At least Kjarr meld doesn't include the lowest rarity in its pool like Kulve meld does.

[Smile]

Yesterday i had something like 80 Large Elder Dragon Bones. Today i have NONE. All of them used on melding and still, no Kjarr Sword Stream. This is getting ridiculous lol

[FAT WANZER]

Originally posted by Smile:

Yesterday i had something like 80 Large Elder Dragon Bones. Today i have NONE. All of them used on melding and still, no Kjarr Sword Stream. This is getting ridiculous lol

Water element is good? I thought ppl going for ice