tempered ruiner nergigante is broken

[troll bans by troll mods]

i just fought him in the guiding lands and WOW

hyper aggressivity
broken hitbox
undodgeable AOE attacks
half a second 1 frame attacks
insane spam
insane tracking

i was constantly running and he was constantly locking on to me and attacking just non stop chasing me around while attacking i have never seen anything like this before

this guy needs to get taken down a notch he's absolutely ridiculous

[JHarlequin]

Guiding lands in general is a bit more mean than it really should be. Most of the monsters above region level 4 are basically double their base health and at least double their base damage.

It really pushes challenge to the limit. When you get up in the elders, tempered, and tempered elders in guiding lands it basically turns extremely weird. Suddenly you have misses one shoting you and direct hits only doing normal damage.

I have basically taken to knowing that for a while I will just be wall banging a few tempered elders and hoping the drops are great gems that I can snag and run. Basically I am mugging tempered elders for now. After a few hundred muggings I might finally decide to give a real fight a chance because otherwise it just isn't worth it.

Of course I could also just continue with the muggings because there is basically no value to defeating a monster in the guiding lands. Wall banging and part breaks are great but the kill or capture just doesn't pay off for how perfect you have to be to live that long.

Some weapon choices and some gear options improve your chances. But it seems that armor is just carrying your decorations, the armor value and resistances just don't change anything on some attacks.

[SpaceGoatMage]

Originally posted by Sharuman:

what i just saw is broken i don't care what anyone says

Why post if you dont care what anyone else says? Theres no point to this thread then.

[Chadwbacca]

Originally posted by Sharuman:

Originally posted by Pepsiman:

Problem solved, Ruiner is broken, he said so, it must be true, we all are wrong, all the Internet is wrong except him. Right?

this guy thinks he speaks for the whole internet...

Wait, I will explain you, Internet is a big place where people can share knowledge, so you can go to places like youtube, and look for gameplays and guide videos to know how people dodge those "broken attacks", or you can even read written guides. You would be surprised to see that you were wrong, and those who took the time to learn the fight were right. You don't have to thank me.

[Dokainin]

Originally posted by Sharuman:

bro i'm mashing the roll button before he does his attack and he still hits me WTF

mashing dodge will get you hit more often than not. this aint dark souls where a roll has like 40 frames of invulnerability.

Evasion in this is about timing and positioning and basically everything Ruiner does can be avoided just by standing in the right spot, you just gotta pay attention and learn the tells

[AfLIcTeD]

Athiest. That you?

[Dokainin]

Originally posted by Sharuman:

Originally posted by Dokainin:

mashing dodge will get you hit more often than not. this aint dark souls where a roll has like 40 frames of invulnerability.

Evasion in this is about timing and positioning and basically everything Ruiner does can be avoided just by standing in the right spot, you just gotta pay attention and learn the tells

timing and positioning ? good luck with that when he does those half a second 1 frame attacks combined with his insane AOE hitbox

what you're saying is wishful thinking it sounds good in theory but in practice it's a whole different story

every one of those aoe's have deadzones that are given away by how he moves before doing them. you not paying attention is your own fault, not the monsters.

also, half a second is 30 frames, and anything over 19 frames is reactable by normal human perception.

[JamesFace]

Originally posted by Sharuman:

these comments are so predictable you people don't even think Alatreon's nova is broken nothing is ever broken to you.... is it fun pretending to be a pro at the game?

You don’t need to be a pro to beat these monsters. Is it fun crying on the internet like a child?

[Chadwbacca]

You are the one who doesn't want to learn the fight, so the problem is you, not the monster. Same goes for Alatreon, you only need to hit Alatreon with a regular set from 5 to 30 times in 6 MINUTES depending on the weapon to weaken his nova. For ♥♥♥♥ sake, people are weakening the nova with no armor and crafted weapons, so people with sets can do it with a bit of practice, that thing you refuse to do.

[Fat Pigeon]

Originally posted by Sharuman:

these comments are so predictable you people don't even think Alatreon's nova is broken nothing is ever broken to you.... is it fun pretending to be a pro at the game?

You make things way to easy if you claim that everything in this game is broken, other people actually try to learn the monster or their movesets and adept to them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbWIayIoObo

Here look at this, and understand how to counter ruiner.
As soon you realize where and how he announce his aoe attacks,
the sooner you can start to bully him.

Same story with alatreon, he is an endgame monster, with a insanely high damage modifier,
he is fast yes, but same story with him, as soon you realise how to counter his moves, the battle gets way easier.

[RedViper]

Originally posted by Sharuman:

Originally posted by Dokainin:

mashing dodge will get you hit more often than not. this aint dark souls where a roll has like 40 frames of invulnerability.

Evasion in this is about timing and positioning and basically everything Ruiner does can be avoided just by standing in the right spot, you just gotta pay attention and learn the tells

timing and positioning ? good luck with that when he does those half a second 1 frame attacks combined with his insane AOE hitbox

what you're saying is wishful thinking it sounds good in theory but in practice it's a whole different story

Lol, this reply.

Someone with experience giving actual tips on how to be better and how to counter something and AtheistJr replies with stuff like "that is wishful thinking". What is wishful thinking? That whatever was recommended is even possible? Or that you can pull it off. Because I think it's the latter

[Maffeketel]

Nothing in this game is broken. There are hard monsters and easier monsters and since Ruiner Nergigante is a late game monster he falls into the hard category.

The tempered version borrows a few moves from AT Nergigante such as the slam attack.
He's also a lot faster then the normal version, has more health, roars more often and stays enraged for longer amounts of time.
He can still be avoided if you pay close attention to his moves and dodge appropriately. If youre aware of his moveset you can actually use it against him and counter certain moves with attacks of your own.
For example ; He has a slam attack where he flies into the air and slams his entire body into the ground and launches his spikes at you. If your positioned towards his tail or if you dodge the spike burst you can do some pretty serious damage to him.
This is just an example, but there are many opportunities to counter his attacks if youre perceptive to their respective clues. It all comes down to knowing a monsters moveset.
This applies to every monster in the game.

I'll list a few general tips specifically for Ruiner Nergigante.

Don't use the rocksteady mantle. His moveset counters the rocksteady mantle and using it will probably lead to a kart.

Ruiner Nergigante becomes more aggressive depending on how low his health is and he is very relentless when he's close to death. Move away from him when he becomes really aggressive and look for openings. Always scan for an opportunity to swiftly counter him. Early on in the fight you can afford to be aggresive, but towards the later stages it's best to be cautious.

Bring Astera Jerky to deal with bleeding damage as standing still is pretty dangerous due to his speed and moveset. He doesn't have any long winded animations so Astera Jerky can definetly safe your life!

I thought Alatreon was broken at first and I'll admit I was frustrated during my first few attempts.
Now I understand his moveset and mechanics, and therefore he has become a routine fight for me. You improvise, adapt and eventually overcome and this basically applies to every monster.
I can now comfortably beat him solo or during a random SOS. The same goes for you and Ruiner Nergigante.

[mewlynx]

I could've sworn I've seen this thread before...

[Faust Wither]

Originally posted by maelynx:

I could've sworn I've seen this thread before...

because one person suck so much at the game instead trying to getting better at it he decide go ranting with same vibe with multiply steam account FOR A FCKING 3 MONTH.

[Zhou Yu]

Originally posted by Faust Wither:

i'm starting worried about your mental condition instead, are you okay? create multiply account just to post this or that broken. no its not broken you just need learn about how to defeat it.

[Sean.]

Adjust your gear and playstyle to adapt to a new monster. I had trouble in the original fight before Shara but the guiding lands fight only carted me once.