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Reyhan Dec 16, 2019 @ 6:40am
Nergigante armor full or defender armor full?
I just beat nergigante and see nergigante armor have more def than defender armor, should I change to nergigante armor and start farming nergigante?
Originally posted by The High Seraph:
Originally posted by reyhanrizaldi:
Originally posted by The High Seraph:
Donno what kind of weapon u r currently using . For blade master weapons , I recommend

- Defender Weapon / Wyvern Ignition as GS

- Nergi Head Alpha
- Teostra Mail Beta
- Teostra Hand Alpha
- Teostra Coil Alpha
- Nergi Legs Beta
- Attack Charm III

As pre Drachen build . This basically give u 85% critical chance with master tourch . Replace with 4 Drachen + Nergi Head later .

For Bows

- Rath Soul Head Beta
- Rathalos Mail Beta
- Teostra Hands Beta
- Odog Coil Beta
- Lavasioth Boots Beta
- Fitness Charm III

( For Dual Blade , Just Swap boots to Death Stench Beta . You can also swap fitness charm with Master Charm III if u are good at stamina management )

This gives u Critical element , Weakness Exploit , Spread shot , Constitution 3 , enough slot for necessary elemental attack jewels . Only core skill you are missing is “Bow Charge Plus”

For Charge Blade

- Dragonking Eye Patch
- Damascus Mail Beta
- Teostra Hands Beta
- Damascus Coil Beta
- Dodogama Legs Beta
- Artillery Charm III

This gives u Artillery 3 , Focus 3 and Capacity boost which is core skills for Spamming SAED in Impact Phial type CB .. Weakness Exploit 3 for Landing Damage .

Notes : the builds that I listed above are not meta and are considered as budget builds but they are perfectly fit for ur situation

If u are using Bowguns , reply me with what type of ammo u are focusing so that I can make a set for this .

And finally to answer ur question . Defender is a big **No** and using full armor set is also not a good idea .

I am using hbg with piercing and wvyren fire

Ok here it is

For pierce , Taroth Assault “Support” and Kjarr Assault “Water” are currently meta HBGs . But lucky for u , defender HBG serve the same purpose as the above two .

So

- Defender HBG V
- Nergi Head Beta
- Rath Soul Mail Beta
- Teostra Hand Beta
- Rath Soul Coil Alpha
- Kirin Legs Beta
- Heath Charm III / Artillery Charm III

This gives u
- Heath Boost 3 / Artillery 3
- Ammo up 3
- Weakness Exploit 2
- Maximum Might 2
- Pierce shot 1
- 5 x 1 tier deco slot and 1x2 tier deco slot

The skills that u are missing are
- Spare Shot and Minds eye
But this HBG having 8 ammo clip size pierce 3 with ammo up 3 , Spare Shot is not essential and can skippable especially when ur resources are limited . 3 Xeno alpha and beta pieces are not worth investing so wait till u got Gammas .

The only reason I am considering artillery 3 is due to ur request “Wyvern Ammo “ , actually Heath Boost lvl 3 is better but that’s ur game so play as u like

And when u have enough decos and streamstones , u have smth like this

https://imgur.com/gallery/F6N0BAV

80% crit chance with minds eye ! U can swap minds eye with maximum might or weakness exploit , depending on kinds of decos u have . Nothing fixed

Mods are generally
1 recoil suppressor and 2 ranged attack up

But if u feel like ur defense is lacking , u can add 1 shield instead of dual ranged attack up . And even swap charm to guard 3 charm for better guarding . Remember, be flexible!

Tweaking my build showed in imgur like
- swapping 3 expert decos with 3 vitality decos
- swapping health charm 3 with clear mind charm
- swapping minds eye with guard up and
- adding 1 shield mod will make you Arch Tempered Xeno Jiiva Killing machine . Allowing u to farm Xeno Gamma set by urself without crying about how randos are bad in AT Xeno quest in steam forum .
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Suzaku Dec 16, 2019 @ 6:41am 
Ignore the defense on armor. You can always upgrade stuff to around the same amount in the end. What matters are the skills, and for that you should always mix up armor pieces to get the perfect combination of skills and decoration slots to meet your demands.
bolabuga Dec 16, 2019 @ 1:08pm 
You should aim also for combination of armor sets with good bonus for your chosen weapon. You dont need all that defender set armor defense, a mix with offense is always good.

Its hard to understand whats good at first, so its a good thing to search for best builds and see what you can do using those builds as base start.

Example: I found (reddit is a good source) a recommended build for the "x" weapon, but i dont have all needed, so you can switch some things, trying following the recommended build. Or you have everything but like to be somewhat safe while playing, then you want some divine protection, health boost, speed eating, etc, etc, etc. Usually Health boost should be enough, togheter with divine protection making you like a wall, more defensive decorations togheter this setup woulb be not necessary (at least for me). Really, when you start knowing the fight and knowing your weapon, you will be confortable to make builds less defensive.
Last edited by bolabuga; Dec 16, 2019 @ 1:19pm
JPM岩 Dec 16, 2019 @ 1:16pm 
Nergigante. Defender Armor is really garbage. :cozymhw:
♋Phenex Dec 16, 2019 @ 1:28pm 
Defender armor is only good when starting a new game and is replaceable in high rank.
mewlynx Dec 16, 2019 @ 1:39pm 
You should choose Nergi armor just because it has better skills, tbh. Go with the beta set so you can actually put some decorations in it later.
Vandals[UK] Dec 16, 2019 @ 2:30pm 
I would go for Negi Alpha + Baze set. Assembled into Lv5 earplugs plus a bit of damage. With this set, farm for decorations and possibly Drachen set (if you were lucky enough to have friends to carry you).
Zyrconia Dec 17, 2019 @ 2:22am 
Just get a mixed set with utility and health, some damage if you can. Defense is not that important.

You really don't need great damage unless you are speed running. Shaving off a couple of minutes of a fight won't help you when you are casually going though the story.

I think it is more important to counter the monster. I went into a fire based semi end-game monster (not tempered) with 34 fire resistance and random defense from fully upgrades pieces and he was a pushover. Things like roar resistance or stun immunity help more.

I'm transitioning right now from damage/defense to utility/comfort.
Leoscar Dec 17, 2019 @ 2:46am 
The only set you actually want to use entirely (by that I mean 4 pieces/5), is the behemoth one. Beside that it's never worth it to focus on one set, you want to mix the pieces in order to reach maximum efficiency for your weapon.

I would really recommand getting health boost 3 and going full DPS for everything else. The other skills are gimmicky at best or too expensive to be worth it (5 levels for earplug is a huge investment for a small reward).
The High Seraph Dec 17, 2019 @ 3:01am 
Donno what kind of weapon u r currently using . For blade master weapons , I recommend

- Defender Weapon / Wyvern Ignition as GS

- Nergi Head Alpha
- Teostra Mail Beta
- Teostra Hand Alpha
- Teostra Coil Alpha
- Nergi Legs Beta
- Attack Charm III

As pre Drachen build . This basically give u 85% critical chance with master tourch . Replace with 4 Drachen + Nergi Head later .

For Bows

- Rath Soul Head Beta
- Rathalos Mail Beta
- Teostra Hands Beta
- Odog Coil Beta
- Lavasioth Boots Beta
- Fitness Charm III

( For Dual Blade , Just Swap boots to Death Stench Beta . You can also swap fitness charm with Master Charm III if u are good at stamina management )

This gives u Critical element , Weakness Exploit , Spread shot , Constitution 3 , enough slot for necessary elemental attack jewels . Only core skill you are missing is “Bow Charge Plus”

For Charge Blade

- Dragonking Eye Patch
- Damascus Mail Beta
- Teostra Hands Beta
- Damascus Coil Beta
- Dodogama Legs Beta
- Artillery Charm III

This gives u Artillery 3 , Focus 3 and Capacity boost which is core skills for Spamming SAED in Impact Phial type CB .. Weakness Exploit 3 for Landing Damage .

Notes : the builds that I listed above are not meta and are considered as budget builds but they are perfectly fit for ur situation

If u are using Bowguns , reply me with what type of ammo u are focusing so that I can make a set for this .

And finally to answer ur question . Defender is a big **No** and using full armor set is also not a good idea .
Last edited by The High Seraph; Dec 17, 2019 @ 3:15am
Reyhan Dec 17, 2019 @ 5:58am 
Originally posted by The High Seraph:
Donno what kind of weapon u r currently using . For blade master weapons , I recommend

- Defender Weapon / Wyvern Ignition as GS

- Nergi Head Alpha
- Teostra Mail Beta
- Teostra Hand Alpha
- Teostra Coil Alpha
- Nergi Legs Beta
- Attack Charm III

As pre Drachen build . This basically give u 85% critical chance with master tourch . Replace with 4 Drachen + Nergi Head later .

For Bows

- Rath Soul Head Beta
- Rathalos Mail Beta
- Teostra Hands Beta
- Odog Coil Beta
- Lavasioth Boots Beta
- Fitness Charm III

( For Dual Blade , Just Swap boots to Death Stench Beta . You can also swap fitness charm with Master Charm III if u are good at stamina management )

This gives u Critical element , Weakness Exploit , Spread shot , Constitution 3 , enough slot for necessary elemental attack jewels . Only core skill you are missing is “Bow Charge Plus”

For Charge Blade

- Dragonking Eye Patch
- Damascus Mail Beta
- Teostra Hands Beta
- Damascus Coil Beta
- Dodogama Legs Beta
- Artillery Charm III

This gives u Artillery 3 , Focus 3 and Capacity boost which is core skills for Spamming SAED in Impact Phial type CB .. Weakness Exploit 3 for Landing Damage .

Notes : the builds that I listed above are not meta and are considered as budget builds but they are perfectly fit for ur situation

If u are using Bowguns , reply me with what type of ammo u are focusing so that I can make a set for this .

And finally to answer ur question . Defender is a big **No** and using full armor set is also not a good idea .

I am using hbg with piercing and wvyren fire
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The High Seraph Dec 17, 2019 @ 6:53am 
Originally posted by reyhanrizaldi:
Originally posted by The High Seraph:
Donno what kind of weapon u r currently using . For blade master weapons , I recommend

- Defender Weapon / Wyvern Ignition as GS

- Nergi Head Alpha
- Teostra Mail Beta
- Teostra Hand Alpha
- Teostra Coil Alpha
- Nergi Legs Beta
- Attack Charm III

As pre Drachen build . This basically give u 85% critical chance with master tourch . Replace with 4 Drachen + Nergi Head later .

For Bows

- Rath Soul Head Beta
- Rathalos Mail Beta
- Teostra Hands Beta
- Odog Coil Beta
- Lavasioth Boots Beta
- Fitness Charm III

( For Dual Blade , Just Swap boots to Death Stench Beta . You can also swap fitness charm with Master Charm III if u are good at stamina management )

This gives u Critical element , Weakness Exploit , Spread shot , Constitution 3 , enough slot for necessary elemental attack jewels . Only core skill you are missing is “Bow Charge Plus”

For Charge Blade

- Dragonking Eye Patch
- Damascus Mail Beta
- Teostra Hands Beta
- Damascus Coil Beta
- Dodogama Legs Beta
- Artillery Charm III

This gives u Artillery 3 , Focus 3 and Capacity boost which is core skills for Spamming SAED in Impact Phial type CB .. Weakness Exploit 3 for Landing Damage .

Notes : the builds that I listed above are not meta and are considered as budget builds but they are perfectly fit for ur situation

If u are using Bowguns , reply me with what type of ammo u are focusing so that I can make a set for this .

And finally to answer ur question . Defender is a big **No** and using full armor set is also not a good idea .

I am using hbg with piercing and wvyren fire

Ok here it is

For pierce , Taroth Assault “Support” and Kjarr Assault “Water” are currently meta HBGs . But lucky for u , defender HBG serve the same purpose as the above two .

So

- Defender HBG V
- Nergi Head Beta
- Rath Soul Mail Beta
- Teostra Hand Beta
- Rath Soul Coil Alpha
- Kirin Legs Beta
- Heath Charm III / Artillery Charm III

This gives u
- Heath Boost 3 / Artillery 3
- Ammo up 3
- Weakness Exploit 2
- Maximum Might 2
- Pierce shot 1
- 5 x 1 tier deco slot and 1x2 tier deco slot

The skills that u are missing are
- Spare Shot and Minds eye
But this HBG having 8 ammo clip size pierce 3 with ammo up 3 , Spare Shot is not essential and can skippable especially when ur resources are limited . 3 Xeno alpha and beta pieces are not worth investing so wait till u got Gammas .

The only reason I am considering artillery 3 is due to ur request “Wyvern Ammo “ , actually Heath Boost lvl 3 is better but that’s ur game so play as u like

And when u have enough decos and streamstones , u have smth like this

https://imgur.com/gallery/F6N0BAV

80% crit chance with minds eye ! U can swap minds eye with maximum might or weakness exploit , depending on kinds of decos u have . Nothing fixed

Mods are generally
1 recoil suppressor and 2 ranged attack up

But if u feel like ur defense is lacking , u can add 1 shield instead of dual ranged attack up . And even swap charm to guard 3 charm for better guarding . Remember, be flexible!

Tweaking my build showed in imgur like
- swapping 3 expert decos with 3 vitality decos
- swapping health charm 3 with clear mind charm
- swapping minds eye with guard up and
- adding 1 shield mod will make you Arch Tempered Xeno Jiiva Killing machine . Allowing u to farm Xeno Gamma set by urself without crying about how randos are bad in AT Xeno quest in steam forum .
Last edited by The High Seraph; Dec 17, 2019 @ 7:09am
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