iceborne bow progression is bad?

[Drukaris]

i basically need to beat the entire dlc story before i can get master rank critical eye gear?
... or any decent setup really.

i'm at shrieking legiana and i still have to use 2 pieces of HR rathalos gear!

thats like missing 120 defense and a 4 to 5 of jewel slots - on top of bow hunter already being squishy. important weapon upgrades are also gated.
it makes EVERY FIGHT a major pain in the ass if you wanna do it solo.

i get that bow is an endgame powerhouse, but getting there is not fun at all - feels like all i can do is getting carried by other players.

[プリンツ・オイゲン]

Originally posted by Drukaris:

i basically need to beat the entire dlc story before i can get master rank critical eye gear?
... or any decent setup really.

i'm at shrieking legiana and i still have to use 2 pieces of HR rathalos gear!

thats like missing 120 defense and a 4 to 5 of jewel slots - on top of bow hunter already being squishy. important weapon upgrades are also gated.
it makes EVERY FIGHT a major pain in the ♥♥♥ if you wanna do it solo.

i get that bow is an endgame powerhouse, but getting there is not fun at all - feels like all i can do is getting carried by other players.

So what ice borne does is that it adds artificial difficulty which is good and bad.

Essentially Iceborne throws monsters with high attack at you to render your High Rank gear useless if you decide to try to push through with it.

In the end, if you want say to keep your dps 100% affinity gear etc it will cost you literally your life.

However, its good because it forces players to use Ice Borne gear which is pretty strong especially during midway.

Tldr; Iceborne gear has wayy more points and decos compared to base game.

Think of it as power down for a bit then when you craft iceborne gear you power right back up

[JamesFace]

What about swapping to MR rathalos gear?

[~KeNnEtH~]

Time to start making MR armor.

Unless you are a speed runner god, DPS armor skills are not gonna keep you alive better than a set of MR armor for the higher defense.

[Cerberus]

I just used the MR gear as they have those 4* slots for you to fill in. As for the weapon... believe or not, I used my HR weapon until MR100 because of the augments.

[Jerry]

DPS Shouldn't just be your damage number * affinity + element. It should also factor in how much time you spend healing, recovering from stun, or walking back after carting.

Just sacrifice a bit of damage to make sure you don't die. It's not like -10% affinity is gonna kill you

[Sekaro]

Originally posted by Cerberus:

I just used the MR gear as they have those 4* slots for you to fill in. As for the weapon... believe or not, I used my HR weapon until MR100 because of the augments.

Yeah that is pretty hard to believe. Even a fully augmented rarity 8 wep pales in comparison to even an early rarity 9-10 wep. Not sure how you handled your way up to MR100 with that kind of setup unless all hunts took like 30+ mins long & you're perfectly OK with that.

[Nine]

It's definitely among the hardest weapons to build for. Not only do you need 5 bows - 1 for each element, it also leans very heavily on end-game items and rare decos to even start to do respectable damage and iceborne only made it worse. Thanks to the nerfs capcom made to bow when iceborne was released if you don't have a mighty bow decoration you lose around 40% of your damage since the nerfs place so much of your damage on that final charge level. You can't even really begin to play it semi-properly until after you kill velkhana since that is the earliest you can get critical element on an MR set.

[Drukaris]

Originally posted by JamesFace:

What about swapping to MR rathalos gear?

it literally doesnt have elemental crit - at all.
nothing has until i can farm velkhana gear
and your REALLY need elemental crit for the bow

thats what i'm saying

i have 3 upraded pieces of MR gear for all 5 elements (total of 7)
and the fitting 5 MR weapons that go with it

i have the "best" MR gear the game offers so far for a bow hunter - its just effectively not really an upgrade

[Saber]

You don't need "decent" gear from endgame to beat the story quests.

If that was the case, no one would have beaten the story.

Just slap whatever skills and armor you have together and wing it.

Take off the HR stuff. That will cart you.

[Fat Pigeon]

Originally posted by Drukaris:

Originally posted by JamesFace:

What about swapping to MR rathalos gear?

it literally doesnt have elemental crit - at all.
nothing has until i can farm velkhana gear
and your REALLY need elemental crit for the bow

thats what i'm saying

i have 3 upraded pieces of MR gear for all 5 elements (total of 7)
and the fitting 5 MR weapons that go with it

i have the "best" MR gear the game offers so far for a bow hunter - its just effectively not really an upgrade

You either choose to use HR armor and upgrade your Bows to MR and risk carts if you misjudge a dodge until you can get an proper upgrade or use a proper MR armor combination that gives you high enough crit eye, wex etc with Kjarr Bows, like i did while i played trough the Iceborne Story.

Or you just ignore crit element until Velkhana and use a proper MR bow/MR armor.

Those are sadly your choices with a bow until lategame ^^

[cruste]

Where is the problem?
I finished iceborne with defender weapons, because it made no real difference if you had to sheath an heal or simply keep on fighting and healing through the health augment.

there are still some armors with skills for bow users like namielle or velkhana

[Cerberus]

Originally posted by Kazemaru:

Originally posted by Cerberus:

I just used the MR gear as they have those 4* slots for you to fill in. As for the weapon... believe or not, I used my HR weapon until MR100 because of the augments.

Yeah that is pretty hard to believe. Even a fully augmented rarity 8 wep pales in comparison to even an early rarity 9-10 wep. Not sure how you handled your way up to MR100 with that kind of setup unless all hunts took like 30+ mins long & you're perfectly OK with that.

Hahaha yeah, the hunts took 20 to 30mins on those. It didn't really bothered me because I just really like to take my time... the longest was 31mins against rajang. I really can't live without my health augment lol. My GS playstyle requires me to tackle to tank the dmg and immediately do a true charged slash to heal back the dmg. It's kinda like a free rocksteady/evasion.

[Drukaris]

Originally posted by cruste:

... there are still some armors with skills for bow users like namielle or velkhana

nice troll buddy

Originally posted by Fat Pigeon:

Or you just ignore crit element until Velkhana and use a proper MR bow/MR armor.

Those are sadly your choices with a bow until lategame ^^

ignoring ele crit ... hmm
sad choices indeed ^^

welp, looks like i'm going the painful route then

[cruste]

Originally posted by Drukaris:

Originally posted by cruste:

... there are still some armors with skills for bow users like namielle or velkhana

nice troll buddy

Originally posted by Fat Pigeon:

Or you just ignore crit element until Velkhana and use a proper MR bow/MR armor.

Those are sadly your choices with a bow until lategame ^^

ignoring ele crit ... hmm
sad choices indeed ^^

welp, looks like i'm going the painful route then

stop whining and start playing
melee had to go through the same suffering
first useful armor is around teostra with masters touch

[Xiwen]

i use bow without crit element in MR...

my starter MR armor is beo armor for that earplug
i upgraded to glavenus for Maximum might (weapons that isnt stamina dependent)
i use brachy set for weapons that is stamina dependent

honestly,you DO NOT need element crit
i can solo MR monsters in less than 30mins,i not a speedrunner
and i sure as hell aint carting at the same time also

unless you are an impatient person,who cant stand any fights longer than 20mins
then,you are going to be disappointed,if you want to farm safi set