why light weapons still require double clutch claw attack?..

[Fenrir_El]

Ever since I switched to bow, I don't really enjoy soloing monsters purely because of this mechanic. Alatreon is not fun at all, cause if I make a mistake, then I have to clutch claw twice to tenderise her head or do little damage and get blown up by her nova

[Seamus]

Because light weapons tend to have more need for slinger ammo. IE: Bow for thousand dragons.

[Endarion]

Originally posted by Seamus:

Because light weapons tend to have more need for slinger ammo. IE: Bow for thousand dragons.

isn't thousand dragon like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terrible with anything except piercing pod?

[Seamus]

Originally posted by OutSeal:

Originally posted by Seamus:

Because light weapons tend to have more need for slinger ammo. IE: Bow for thousand dragons.

isn't thousand dragon like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terrible with anything except piercing pod?

I dunno, I know it requires ammo to do full damage. I never bothered looking at the math.

I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate using bow.

[Fenrir_El]

Originally posted by Seamus:

Because light weapons tend to have more need for slinger ammo. IE: Bow for thousand dragons.

gosh, people who like stating the obvious without second thoughts.
a) I KNOW ABOUT SLINGER AMMO
b) NOBODY REALLY CASTS THOUSAND DRAGONS.
c) they could make that clutch claw both drops slinger ammo and tenderises in one go.

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F?ck this alatreon. The monster itself is very fun and engaging, but tenderising his head to break his horns is beyond annoying. Every time I get a knockdown or wallbang, instead of dpsing, I have to clutch claw circle circle circle triangle. Very ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fun. And in between that I just gotta do low damage, cause hit points are bad for bows as usually ==> which leads to his nova hurting quite bad and eating up lots of healing items, but if I fail tenderising, then I just die to nova.

[JPM岩]

Originally posted by No0ne:

Originally posted by Seamus:

Because light weapons tend to have more need for slinger ammo. IE: Bow for thousand dragons.

gosh, people who like stating the obvious without second thoughts.
a) I KNOW ABOUT SLINGER AMMO
b) NOBODY REALLY CASTS THOUSAND DRAGONS.
c) they could make that clutch claw both drops slinger ammo and tenderises in one go.

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F?ck this alatreon. The monster itself is very fun and engaging, but tenderising his head to break his horns is beyond annoying. Every time I get a knockdown or wallbang, instead of dpsing, I have to clutch claw circle circle circle triangle. Very ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fun. And in between that I just gotta do low damage, cause hit points are bad for bows as usually ==> which leads to his nova hurting quite bad and eating up lots of healing items, but if I fail tenderising, then I just die to nova.

You literally never have to tenderize ala.

[Endarion]

Originally posted by No0ne:

Originally posted by Seamus:

Because light weapons tend to have more need for slinger ammo. IE: Bow for thousand dragons.

gosh, people who like stating the obvious without second thoughts.
a) I KNOW ABOUT SLINGER AMMO
b) NOBODY REALLY CASTS THOUSAND DRAGONS.
c) they could make that clutch claw both drops slinger ammo and tenderises in one go.

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F?ck this alatreon. The monster itself is very fun and engaging, but tenderising his head to break his horns is beyond annoying. Every time I get a knockdown or wallbang, instead of dpsing, I have to clutch claw circle circle circle triangle. Very ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fun. And in between that I just gotta do low damage, cause hit points are bad for bows as usually ==> which leads to his nova hurting quite bad and eating up lots of healing items, but if I fail tenderising, then I just die to nova.

does tenderizing even affact elemental hitzone values?
also not to be that guy but really, people have cleared this with GS and not even a elemental build just switching the agitator charm with a element one so bow of all things failing the check just because a missed tenrezing seems fishy

[Seamus]

Originally posted by No0ne:

Originally posted by Seamus:

Because light weapons tend to have more need for slinger ammo. IE: Bow for thousand dragons.

gosh, people who like stating the obvious without second thoughts.
a) I KNOW ABOUT SLINGER AMMO
b) NOBODY REALLY CASTS THOUSAND DRAGONS.
c) they could make that clutch claw both drops slinger ammo and tenderises in one go.

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F?ck this alatreon. The monster itself is very fun and engaging, but tenderising his head to break his horns is beyond annoying. Every time I get a knockdown or wallbang, instead of dpsing, I have to clutch claw circle circle circle triangle. Very ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fun. And in between that I just gotta do low damage, cause hit points are bad for bows as usually ==> which leads to his nova hurting quite bad and eating up lots of healing items, but if I fail tenderising, then I just die to nova.

Just throwin this out there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eav76a_R2BY
You can beat the dps check with snowballs.

[cruste]

Originally posted by Seamus:

Originally posted by No0ne:

gosh, people who like stating the obvious without second thoughts.
a) I KNOW ABOUT SLINGER AMMO
b) NOBODY REALLY CASTS THOUSAND DRAGONS.
c) they could make that clutch claw both drops slinger ammo and tenderises in one go.

----------
F?ck this alatreon. The monster itself is very fun and engaging, but tenderising his head to break his horns is beyond annoying. Every time I get a knockdown or wallbang, instead of dpsing, I have to clutch claw circle circle circle triangle. Very ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fun. And in between that I just gotta do low damage, cause hit points are bad for bows as usually ==> which leads to his nova hurting quite bad and eating up lots of healing items, but if I fail tenderising, then I just die to nova.

Just throwin this out there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eav76a_R2BY
You can beat the dps check with snowballs.

how does it help if the monster isn't dead at the end of the video and he is clearly abusing the ghilie mantle trick at the beginning

[RedViper]

Originally posted by cruste:

Originally posted by Seamus:

Just throwin this out there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eav76a_R2BY
You can beat the dps check with snowballs.

how does it help if the monster isn't dead at the end of the video and he is clearly abusing the ghilie mantle trick at the beginning

Its obviously not an actual strategy to defeat alatreon, it's just a video demonstrating that you can clear its dps check with the weakest elemental attack in the game.

If you can clear it with snowballs, a weapon like the bow shouldn't be having any troubles dealing with it.

[Seamus]

Originally posted by RedViper:

Originally posted by cruste:

how does it help if the monster isn't dead at the end of the video and he is clearly abusing the ghilie mantle trick at the beginning

Its obviously not an actual strategy to defeat alatreon, it's just a video demonstrating that you can clear its dps check with the weakest elemental attack in the game.

If you can clear it with snowballs, a weapon like the bow shouldn't be having any troubles dealing with it.

Exactly.

[Endarion]

alatreon has an iternal elemental modifyer to allow any weapon class to pass the dps check

skilled people even cleared the elemetanl check in a 4 p run with one single guy running a elemental wepon

as said above people passed the check with GS with just a elemental charm

so really bow failing because of a missed tenderizer? iìll press X to doubht

[Fenrir_El]

why did I think people on this forum would understand the annoyance of tenerise mechanic for light weapons. If in the end of the day, you can kill a monster, does it matter really if you have any fun doing it, does it matter that it ruins the flow of the battle, ruins the feel of the fight, when you attack and know that you can do more damage with tenderising, but you can't do it yet, cause mantles are off cd and monster is not drooling.

naaah. monsters are dying, so all is good. As long as we can press buttons and monsters die because of it, all is good.

[cruste]

Originally posted by RedViper:

Originally posted by cruste:

how does it help if the monster isn't dead at the end of the video and he is clearly abusing the ghilie mantle trick at the beginning

Its obviously not an actual strategy to defeat alatreon, it's just a video demonstrating that you can clear its dps check with the weakest elemental attack in the game.

If you can clear it with snowballs, a weapon like the bow shouldn't be having any troubles dealing with it.

again he is abusing an exploit with the ghilie mantle
i wonder, if he could pass the second nova as easy as the first one, but the video ends right there...

[rina]

Because the entire expansion was balanced around a garbage mechanic like the clunk claw.

[Nicovahkiin]

Because Capcom thought it was fun