TIL there is a mod that allows light weapons to tenderize in one attack.

[Jauder le Bonette]

https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterworld/mods/1981

I hate tenderizing and it's a pain in the ass with gunlance having longer claw shot animation than greatsword which tenderizes in one attacks, and it also kills all the solo potential the base game had, but this mod is at least something

[iNol]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Ryvaku:

Forcing clutch claw to tenderize was the dumbest gimmick they added.
I prefer just beating on the same part to tenderize it.

They dont force it. G rank has always been hp sponge/tanky, esp before maxxed gears. Now they just add more tool if you want to use it. I finish the game without caring about tenderizing and was fine. Most MR monsters felt less tanky than G rank monsters in MHXX/GU imo, faster to kill here.

The time you spent to tenderize (the maintenance of it), you can likely deal more damage normally. If the monster is agile/active/dangerous and have limited openings, tenderized timer would be wasted mostly. In that case, easier to just smash it where it hurts like older MH, no need maintenance. I'm generally more interested in smashing the monster into a wall for damage and more openings instead of tenderizing.

[ItsRay]

Początkowo opublikowane przez iNol iGunggung:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Ryvaku:

Forcing clutch claw to tenderize was the dumbest gimmick they added.
I prefer just beating on the same part to tenderize it.

They dont force it. G rank has always been hp sponge/tanky, esp before maxxed gears. Now they just add more tool if you want to use it. I finish the game without caring about tenderizing and was fine. Most MR monsters felt less tanky than G rank monsters in MHXX/GU imo, faster to kill here.

The time you spent to tenderize (the maintenance of it), you can likely deal more damage normally. If the monster is agile/active/dangerous and have limited openings, tenderized timer would be wasted mostly. In that case, easier to just smash it where it hurts like older MH, no need maintenance.

The game doesnt force weapon upgrades either, you can run around with a Tier1 weapon all day long! Having a better weapon just makes it faster- its just more tool if you want to use it. I finish the game without caring about upgrading weapon and was fine.

In other words, im stupid and being content with mediocrity is not a good reason to excuse bad gameplay design choices

[iNol]

Początkowo opublikowane przez ItsRay:

im stupid and being content with mediocrity

Uh I dont know much about you but okay, i guess i'll take your word for it. You know yourself better than me.

[Nerevar]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Cepheid Variable:

Początkowo opublikowane przez DaBa:

Who cares, just play the game and don't bother about what other people are doing. What is it to you if somebody wants to cheat and make their game easier? It's their problem.

FYI Safi weapons tenderize in a single hit, so it will become an actual thing eventually.

Okay, that is an appeal of Safi weapons then, to give them an edge over older weapons.

Also I SHOULD care about someone cheating, because that's how we end up with Anti-cheat being implemented that nukes everyone's processor.

It starts with "Oh I just want a mod to tenderize in one hit" and ends up with "You know what would be funny? If clutch claw could one-shot Safi"

That's literally why we have an anti-cheat implemented now. People started off by giving themselves any weapon they wanted, and then they started messing with damage numbers. Someone actually made a YouTube video showcasing how he used damage cheats to figure out exactly how much HP Kulve Tarroth has, how damaging body parts affects her, and how pursuit level affects her. And that brought even more people to "harmless mods".

If you want to do that on your offline experience, fine. But the moment you bring that toxicity to multiplayer, or bring in your min-maxed build to MP that took you 5 minutes to get while I spent hundreds of hours grinding for all the gear and decos, yes you are ruining the community's experience.

This "mod" might be harmless on the surface but is a slippery slope. And cheating it cheating. Now if it was to patch up bugs in the code that exist on PC but not PS4, that is completely fair. Clutch claw does not like to work the same between platforms and it is annoying sometimes.

dont believe his post about safi weapons tender in 1 attack. its completely made up and fully untrue i can assure you that.

friend has safi weapons on console by now and he still takes 2 attacks or 3 hits to weaken with light weapons.

he is spreading misinformation there like alot of others did in this thread. they weaken 100% the same way all current weapons do aswell.

i really dont get where this myth of 1 hit safi weakening came from tbh. its simply not true at all.
the reason safi weapons are ahead of all others is solely the awakening system on them. thats it.

[Jauder le Bonette]

Początkowo opublikowane przez crimsonedge11:

Wait.....you're tenderizing with gunlance? You should be putting that effort into sticking a wyvern stake blast into the monster, instead. There is your tenderize.

Except a sticky would get me 60+20, while a wide tendrized slash would give me 200. Shelling is here for hard parts, not weak points, and it ceritanly doesn't outshines slash as a main metod of damage.

[Jauder le Bonette]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Daddy Dog:

Cheating online isn't cool. Stay offline and do whatever you want, but bring this online and expect to get kicked by quite a few people.

Capcom need a real answer to cheaters that doesn't destroy performance (And not work anyway), such as putting them all together in their own server. HP counts and damage meters I don't really care about, if you're that much of a tryhard then that's on you, but actively changing mechanics and making the game easier is not necessary. Heck, tenderizing is not necessary in the long run, just don't bother wounding if you suck at it that much, the clutch claw is not mandatory, it just helps and adds an extra layer of depth to the game.

G rank solo was 20 minutes in older games, when it was scaled to 2-4 players. Now it's... 20 minutes solo cause they inflated the values for tenderizing and wallbangs to force the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ claw, thanks capcom. And i thought solo scaling would fix it.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Początkowo opublikowane przez That's way better.:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Daddy Dog:

Cheating online isn't cool. Stay offline and do whatever you want, but bring this online and expect to get kicked by quite a few people.

Capcom need a real answer to cheaters that doesn't destroy performance (And not work anyway), such as putting them all together in their own server. HP counts and damage meters I don't really care about, if you're that much of a tryhard then that's on you, but actively changing mechanics and making the game easier is not necessary. Heck, tenderizing is not necessary in the long run, just don't bother wounding if you suck at it that much, the clutch claw is not mandatory, it just helps and adds an extra layer of depth to the game.

G rank solo was 20 minutes in older games, when it was scaled to 2-4 players. Now it's... 20 minutes solo cause they inflated the values for tenderizing and wallbangs to force the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ claw, thanks capcom. And i thought solo scaling would fix it.

Yeah no, I take 10 mins most atm in solo's depending on what monster I fight.

[Jauder le Bonette]

Początkowo opublikowane przez NaliWarcow:

Początkowo opublikowane przez That's way better.:

G rank solo was 20 minutes in older games, when it was scaled to 2-4 players. Now it's... 20 minutes solo cause they inflated the values for tenderizing and wallbangs to force the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ claw, thanks capcom. And i thought solo scaling would fix it.

Yeah no, I take 10 mins most atm in solo's depending on what monster I fight.

Well i have last tier gunlance and i'm agressive as ♥♥♥♥, what am i doing wrong again? Not running full crit eye, wex and crit boost?

[Jauder le Bonette]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Nerevar:

i really dont get where this myth of 1 hit safi weakening came from tbh. its simply not true at all.
the reason safi weapons are ahead of all others is solely the awakening system on them. thats it.

Safi herself gets tenderized from one attacks, that's where the misinformation came from. Cause she moves a lot and will chuck hunters away too fast. Apparently totally not the case for the rest of Iceborne rest, no-no

[CourtesyFlush09]

Początkowo opublikowane przez That's way better.:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Nerevar:

i really dont get where this myth of 1 hit safi weakening came from tbh. its simply not true at all.
the reason safi weapons are ahead of all others is solely the awakening system on them. thats it.

Safi herself gets tenderized from one attacks, that's where the misinformation came from. Cause she moves a lot and will chuck hunters away too fast. Apparently totally not the case for the rest of Iceborne rest, no-no

Is Safi a "she"? Or simply just an "it"?

[Jauder le Bonette]

Początkowo opublikowane przez CourtesyFlush90:

Początkowo opublikowane przez That's way better.:

Safi herself gets tenderized from one attacks, that's where the misinformation came from. Cause she moves a lot and will chuck hunters away too fast. Apparently totally not the case for the rest of Iceborne rest, no-no

Is Safi a "she"? Or simply just an "it"?

Well the name ends with "a", so in half the languages gender is implied, but officially - who knows