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TIL there is a mod that allows light weapons to tenderize in one attack.
https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterworld/mods/1981

I hate tenderizing and it's a pain in the ass with gunlance having longer claw shot animation than greatsword which tenderizes in one attacks, and it also kills all the solo potential the base game had, but this mod is at least something
Originally posted by JebKerman:
Originally posted by DaBa:
Originally posted by JebKerman:
That seems like the extra nudge they really didn't need (Safi weapons, not 'light' weapons)

Maybe they didn't need it from the perspective of how powerful they are. I think this is more of an answer to how awkward it felt to have to double tenderize. It's mostly a QoL change, especially for solo players. I don't mind the indirect power increase or imbalance it might create, I'm just glad it feels less awkward.
I get the impression all weapons probably should have been able to do both a 'light' attack and a 'heavy' attack on separate inputs. both performing the functions they currently do.

Would also help the secondary problem 'light' weapons can experience of burning through a monster's reserve of slinger pods when they'd much rather have just wounded it since they've already got all the pods they could want for the moment. Would also benefit the 'heavy' weapons that can make use of pods in their combos and such.
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Endarion Jan 21, 2020 @ 6:22am 
yay more topics to encourage cheating!

keep up the good work
DaBa Jan 21, 2020 @ 6:25am 
Originally posted by Gen:
Originally posted by DaBa:
Who cares, just play the game and don't bother about what other people are doing. What is it to you if somebody wants to cheat and make their game easier? It's their problem.

FYI Safi weapons tenderize in a single hit, so it will become an actual thing eventually.
I don't give a crap about others cheating on their own, but when it affects the gameplay of others, then it becomes an issue, beneficial or not.

Except mods that show HP. I will fight hunters who use those mods.

I agree that using them in multiplayer is bad manners, but still who cares? You'll see a cheater once every a couple hundred hunts if you're lucky (I haven't seen a single one in my 250+ hours). And even if you do, you're not even going to feel nor notice that they tenderized in a single hit. It's absolutely inconsequential for you as a result. Making a big deal out of this is absolutely stupid. Even if the cheater killed the monster in a single hit, who cares? Just move on to another quest.

Also, what about HP bar mods? They are silly, yes, and if you use them then I will make fun of you. But again, what is it to you? How does that affect yo? It doesn't. So stop making such a big deal out of nothing. Just play your own game and enjoy it, none of this affects you.
Last edited by DaBa; Jan 21, 2020 @ 6:26am
kampfer91 Jan 21, 2020 @ 6:30am 
This is outright encouraging cheating and should be locked . There should be no advertising for third-party .
Schiggy Jan 21, 2020 @ 6:30am 
Originally posted by DaBa:
Originally posted by Gen:
I don't give a crap about others cheating on their own, but when it affects the gameplay of others, then it becomes an issue, beneficial or not.

Except mods that show HP. I will fight hunters who use those mods.

I agree that using them in multiplayer is bad manners, but still who cares? You'll see a cheater once every a couple hundred hunts if you're lucky (I haven't seen a single one in my 250+ hours). And even if you do, you're not even going to feel nor notice that they tenderized in a single hit. It's absolutely inconsequential for you as a result. Making a big deal out of this is absolutely stupid. Even if the cheater killed the monster in a single hit, who cares? Just move on to another quest.

Also, what about HP bar mods? They are silly, yes, and if you use them then I will make fun of you. But again, what is it to you? How does that affect yo? It doesn't. So stop making such a big deal out of nothing. Just play your own game and enjoy it, none of this affects you.

Yes cheaters are very rare but OP is basically advertising cheating which leads to more cheaters in Multiplayer.
Just get your cheat, shut up, play singleplayer
Saber Jan 21, 2020 @ 6:32am 
Originally posted by DaBa:
Originally posted by Gen:
I don't give a crap about others cheating on their own, but when it affects the gameplay of others, then it becomes an issue, beneficial or not.

Except mods that show HP. I will fight hunters who use those mods.

I agree that using them in multiplayer is bad manners, but still who cares? You'll see a cheater once every a couple hundred hunts if you're lucky (I haven't seen a single one in my 250+ hours). And even if you do, you're not even going to feel nor notice that they tenderized in a single hit. It's absolutely inconsequential for you as a result. Making a big deal out of this is absolutely stupid. Even if the cheater killed the monster in a single hit, who cares? Just move on to another quest.

Also, what about HP bar mods? They are silly, yes, and if you use them then I will make fun of you. But again, what is it to you? How does that affect yo? It doesn't. So stop making such a big deal out of nothing. Just play your own game and enjoy it, none of this affects you.
Health bars go against the entire theme of the game.
It turns hunts into mere boss fights.

Don't even get me started on DPS mods.
That stuff brings elitism into the game which is not welcome here.
Schiggy Jan 21, 2020 @ 6:37am 
Originally posted by Gen:
Originally posted by DaBa:

I agree that using them in multiplayer is bad manners, but still who cares? You'll see a cheater once every a couple hundred hunts if you're lucky (I haven't seen a single one in my 250+ hours). And even if you do, you're not even going to feel nor notice that they tenderized in a single hit. It's absolutely inconsequential for you as a result. Making a big deal out of this is absolutely stupid. Even if the cheater killed the monster in a single hit, who cares? Just move on to another quest.

Also, what about HP bar mods? They are silly, yes, and if you use them then I will make fun of you. But again, what is it to you? How does that affect yo? It doesn't. So stop making such a big deal out of nothing. Just play your own game and enjoy it, none of this affects you.
Health bars go against the entire theme of the game.
It turns hunts into mere boss fights.

Don't even get me started on DPS mods.
That stuff brings elitism into the game which is not welcome here.

Dude use a HP mod and you will see its nothing.
its 1:1 the same game .
And Damage Interface mods are very good to understand if you are performing good atm or bad.
Without those mods I would have never found out how strong I can get in this game.
The Stuff which brings elitism into games are humans not tools.
Its like saying Videogames create Psychopaths lets not allow videogames anymore so there are no Psychopaths anymore.
Jauder le Bonette Jan 21, 2020 @ 6:42am 
People those days have a very funny perception of cheating. Remember when cheating made PC port of Dark Souls playable? Remember when cheats were used cause there were no saves? Remember cheats that made GTA actually fun game?

don't want cheats - go sit with your stuttering and cpu melting, while we actually play the game, lol.
"Takes a good 15 seconds every 90 seconds and can only be used when the monster is downed for a long time or not enraged, totally unenjoyable gameplay"

Uhm, simple : stop using said weapon if you dislike its gameplay or find it unenjoyable. Some weapons are made to be HARD to use PLUS rather MP based. LS for example. Shure it can be used in SP to great effect, yet MP is where a LS user realy shines. You have free roaming to cut of the tail while the enemy is distracted OR to deal a ton of dmg. Something wich requires luck in SP or carefull planing.

Its as simple as that : you dislike a weapons gameplay then dont use it.
Schiggy Jan 21, 2020 @ 6:54am 
Originally posted by That's way better.:
People those days have a very funny perception of cheating. Remember when cheating made PC port of Dark Souls playable? Remember when cheats were used cause there were no saves? Remember cheats that made GTA actually fun game?

don't want cheats - go sit with your stuttering and cpu melting, while we actually play the game, lol.

Ok when you start like this go play your MHW on easy mode because you cant play the game.
Also only because you code something not every code is a cheat you genius.
Jauder le Bonette Jan 21, 2020 @ 6:58am 
Originally posted by -=EDF=- Kouta Seto:
"Takes a good 15 seconds every 90 seconds and can only be used when the monster is downed for a long time or not enraged, totally unenjoyable gameplay"

Uhm, simple : stop using said weapon if you dislike its gameplay or find it unenjoyable. Some weapons are made to be HARD to use PLUS rather MP based. LS for example. Shure it can be used in SP to great effect, yet MP is where a LS user realy shines. You have free roaming to cut of the tail while the enemy is distracted OR to deal a ton of dmg. Something wich requires luck in SP or carefull planing.

Its as simple as that : you dislike a weapons gameplay then dont use it.

It was fine base game. And since Iceborne includes single player scaling, it should actually ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ scale to single player. Because some just can't find a match cause of server divison, or playing not in a prime time, or thousand other reasons really. Light weapon AT LEAST should wound if you are the only player, or the wound should stick 4 times longer.
Jauder le Bonette Jan 21, 2020 @ 6:59am 
Originally posted by Selo:
Originally posted by That's way better.:
People those days have a very funny perception of cheating. Remember when cheating made PC port of Dark Souls playable? Remember when cheats were used cause there were no saves? Remember cheats that made GTA actually fun game?

don't want cheats - go sit with your stuttering and cpu melting, while we actually play the game, lol.

Ok when you start like this go play your MHW on easy mode because you cant play the game.
Also only because you code something not every code is a cheat you genius.

After soloing white fatalis for literal five hours, same with Kulve, i won't tolerate capcom's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, you are free to continue doing so
Erudax Jan 21, 2020 @ 7:04am 
Originally posted by DaBa:
Who cares, just play the game and don't bother about what other people are doing. What is it to you if somebody wants to cheat and make their game easier? It's their problem.

FYI Safi weapons tenderize in a single hit, so it will become an actual thing eventually.
Safi gets tenderized in one hit, not the weapons.
Evas a tahw! Jan 21, 2020 @ 7:04am 
Originally posted by Selo:
Originally posted by Gen:
Health bars go against the entire theme of the game.
It turns hunts into mere boss fights.

Don't even get me started on DPS mods.
That stuff brings elitism into the game which is not welcome here.

Dude use a HP mod and you will see its nothing.
its 1:1 the same game .
And Damage Interface mods are very good to understand if you are performing good atm or bad.
Without those mods I would have never found out how strong I can get in this game.
The Stuff which brings elitism into games are humans not tools.
Its like saying Videogames create Psychopaths lets not allow videogames anymore so there are no Psychopaths anymore.

Thus must be your first ever monster hunter game....


Typical 'PC' players like you are the reason these games hsould of stayd exclusive.

I dont want to see monster HP. It was never in an MH game.

I dont want see what my dps was.

Was never in any MH game too.

Go stick your mods to singleplayer and stop announcing in chat that information. It ruins it for me, and I can tell if a monster is weak or not because of visual cue's. I have had two people like you allready annoy the heck out of me, I kicked a dps announcer and I kicked a health announcer because he carts to teostra's burn blight....

Last edited by Evas a tahw!; Jan 21, 2020 @ 7:07am
Greb Jan 21, 2020 @ 7:06am 
Originally posted by That's way better.:
It was fine base game. And since Iceborne includes single player scaling, it should actually ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ scale to single player. Because some just can't find a match cause of server divison, or playing not in a prime time, or thousand other reasons really. Light weapon AT LEAST should wound if you are the only player, or the wound should stick 4 times longer.
Yeah but you've gotta remember, softening isn't something you NEED to do, it's more of a bonus. Weakness Exploit got nerfed because it was literally needed in every build, you just couldn't ignore +50% Affinity it was just too good, it needed to be nerfed.

Softening grants you the old version of Weakness Exploit and more damage to monsters parts, as well as a small amount of bonus damage on top of that - and perhaps a reduction in bouncing on a monsters hard parts if you lack the sharpness. It's definitely nice to have, but it's also definitely not essential at all.

Weakness Exploit still gives you +30% Affinity, there's so many end game weapons that give +20% or more, and Critical Eye has been buffed to the point that it is instantly useful instead of wasting the first four levels etc, and caps at 40%.

I understand your suggestion and I get where you're coming from, but you may as well be asking that pitfall traps last 400% longer when in solo than in multiplayer because there's not four players stacking damage at once and / or you can place four times as less without restocking etc. You don't need pitfall traps, just like you don't need to soften monsters to kill them.

It's literally just a quality of life bonus you can pull off. Heavy Bowguns and Light Bowguns utterly ruin monsters once they've been softened, it's not even funny. Heavy Bowguns at least take a long time to pull off a softening attack, I can't remember what Light Bowguns are like but I assume they're penalised in some way too, etc. Can't speak for other weapons, admittedly.

People are getting so worked up over this because I guess their main weapon is less effective than another one, but the bonus you get just isn't worth all the fuss lol.
Last edited by Greb; Jan 21, 2020 @ 7:08am
Jauder le Bonette Jan 21, 2020 @ 7:06am 
Originally posted by NaliWarcow:
Originally posted by Selo:

Dude use a HP mod and you will see its nothing.
its 1:1 the same game .
And Damage Interface mods are very good to understand if you are performing good atm or bad.
Without those mods I would have never found out how strong I can get in this game.
The Stuff which brings elitism into games are humans not tools.
Its like saying Videogames create Psychopaths lets not allow videogames anymore so there are no Psychopaths anymore.

Thus must be your first ever monster hunter game....


Typical 'PC' players like you are the reason these games hsould of stayd exclusive.

Counting datamined flinch values is sooooo much better, right
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