Make the Lance Great Again Capcom. Please

[Kelanor]

I was a lance main all through monster hunter world. I loved it, I was the thickest thick boi out there. I was using uragaan armor with a bazelguese chest (level 5 block, plus block anything armor set bonus). Plus a level 3 +health amulet. When i put my foot down, I didn't move. Lance was my boy.

Then iceborne hit. At first i was all enamored with the expansion content, but i noticed something weird. I started dying alot. I scratched my head. I couldn't quite put my hand on it, but something was different. I got mad, got frustrated, changed to gunlance. After cooling off, I went back to Lance to objectively see what had changed with clear eyes to see what had happened with expac release that made me suddenly suck with the class.

Animation canceling blocking. Prior to xpac, lance could cancel animations with blocking just like dodging can cancel animations for split second "Oh shiz it's coming!" defensive manuevers. The lance no longer has the ability to split second cancel animations to block spur of the moment sudden attacks. Death, after death, after death. I am furious. I went to the training wheels weapon for now... The longsword. Which peeves me cause I love the lance so much. I like being the thickest thick boy on the field. But if i can't effectly block.... Then what's the point? Come on capcom.... You ruined my favorite class. Make the lancer great again! Please!

[Blackdark]

I think your confusing blocking with the counter guard. Counter Guard cancels animations and regular blocking never did.

[cruste]

lance is still great
use 2 uragaan piece with teostra and you have a super sexy lance, which never lose sharpness.
but monsters sadly learned new ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tricks, which can quickly kill unaware lancers.
like teostra with its new toaster move or super agressive jho creating deathzones.

other classes suffer under similiar issues for example
i find the whole inputs feel more sluggish now, it takes some time till you get used to it

[Blackdark]

I'll just leave this here.
https://gfycat.com/shockingsentimentalgermanspitz-monster-hunter-iceborne-lance

[Plumpeach]

Offensive guard was made for Lance.

[SaiBot]

Lance is actually much much better in IB than it was in the base game. Get used to the Clutch Claw... With Lance you basicly have a free rocksteady mantle if you use that clutch claw counter move and that is huge. In the beginning it is a bit hard to time it but you will get used to it and then Lance is a top tier weapon imo.

[Hurricane]

Can lance block special attacks with guard 5?

[JebKerman]

Originally posted by AngryCosmonaut:

I think your confusing blocking with the counter guard. Counter Guard cancels animations and regular blocking never did.

This, but in addition you can cancel into a Guard Dash. Which I think might be quicker to bring the shield up, but you have less options coming out of it (Only the Shield Attack/Slap, Leaping Thrust, or a Hop)

[JebKerman]

Originally posted by Hurricane:

Can lance block special attacks with guard 5?

er... The key skill for that is 'Guard Up'. Uragaan's set bonus, though you can alternatively craft the 'Bulwark Charm', or if you're lucky get is in the form of the 'Shield Jewel 2' a level 2 decoration.
However...

The lance can actually block ordinarily unblockable attacks without 'Guard' or 'Guard Up', if the power guard is held for a second or two.

'Guard' reduces the chip damage and stamina cost of blocking. This obviously helps when blocking large, or normally unblockable attacks but doesn't enable you to block them by iteself.

[Del]

Originally posted by Hurricane:

Can lance block special attacks with guard 5?

From what I understand people recommend only going as high as Guard 3

[AfLIcTeD]

Originally posted by JebKerman:

Originally posted by AngryCosmonaut:

I think your confusing blocking with the counter guard. Counter Guard cancels animations and regular blocking never did.

This, but in addition you can cancel into a Guard Dash. Which I think might be quicker to bring the shield up, but you have less options coming out of it (Only the Shield Attack/Slap, Leaping Thrust, or a Hop)

This. Guard dash is way quicker than a counter or normal block. It is good for repositioning instead of a normal hop. It is also a good way to activate offensive guard. I always use guard dashing as I can leave blocking to the last second and still block it.

[JebKerman]

Originally posted by Delphinus48:

Originally posted by Hurricane:

Can lance block special attacks with guard 5?

From what I understand people recommend only going as high as Guard 3

I think it's increased to a recommended minimum of guard 3.

[Waffles]

wtf?

I'm a lance main and it is much better now than before.

[Gigantoad]

This guy disagrees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1RFJZgmdH0

[Hurricane]

Originally posted by Delphinus48:

Originally posted by Hurricane:

Can lance block special attacks with guard 5?

From what I understand people recommend only going as high as Guard 3

Yeah i use guard 3 but wondering if guard 5 can block supers

[Remi]

Originally posted by Gigantoad:

This guy disagrees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1RFJZgmdH0

HH is a stronger weapon than Lance in IB.