Blackveil Vaal Hazak one shotting me

[Caridor]

I don't get this tbh. I'm fully buffed up, 792 defense, immune to effluvium build up, max health or close to it but so far, it's happened 3 times when I grabbed onto him and he just ran forward and then just once randomly when I was near his rear and he apparently....didn't do anything? Wasn't even a breath attack. It's not health ticking down due to his aura either, I've been watching for that.

Is this a known thing? I've stopped grabbing onto him either with hook shot or with element discharge, just so I survive but this is really confusing the hell out of me.

[Waffles]

None of his attacks should be one-shotting you.

Do you have Health Boost 3?

[Xilo The Odd]

pretty sure his breath attacks are also part water element but majority is physical. so unless you got like a neg 20 water res, only 800 defense, and let him blight you, there should be no one shotting.

he also puts out a lot of tick damage clouds you have to look out for as well.

[mewlynx]

You must be missing something. I know that he can sometimes grow a spore puff where you're grappling and shotgun you for a decent bit, but I've never been oneshot like that.

[Caridor]

引用自 Xilo The Odd：

pretty sure his breath attacks are also part water element but majority is physical. so unless you got like a neg 20 water res, only 800 defense, and let him blight you, there should be no one shotting.

he also puts out a lot of tick damage clouds you have to look out for as well.

I'll check my water resistance but I'm using mostly that apprciation festival set so I believe it's positive.

It's confusing the hell out of me tbh.

[Remi]

引用自 Xilo The Odd：

pretty sure his breath attacks are also part water element but majority is physical. so unless you got like a neg 20 water res, only 800 defense, and let him blight you, there should be no one shotting.

he also puts out a lot of tick damage clouds you have to look out for as well.

No water on his anything

[Caridor]

引用自 maelynx：

You must be missing something. I know that he can sometimes grow a spore puff where you're grappling and shotgun you for a decent bit, but I've never been oneshot like that.

I'll have look into the spore puffs but the 3 times I've died to grappling, I've grabbed onto his back legs (or there about) and he's just run forward and one shot me. I should add my health was close to max as well. ~180 or about there.

[Carthias]

are you wearing rock mantle? If you're immune to knockdowns some attacks will cause you to take damage as if you've been hit multiple times since you don't get knocked back/iframes

[Xilo The Odd]

引用自 Remi：

引用自 Xilo The Odd：

pretty sure his breath attacks are also part water element but majority is physical. so unless you got like a neg 20 water res, only 800 defense, and let him blight you, there should be no one shotting.

he also puts out a lot of tick damage clouds you have to look out for as well.

No water on his anything

i coulda swore i tested this awhile back, knowing he was immune to water element, and his armor gave a big positive to water res, i thought it'd be safe to assume his attacks might be part water.

so i took on AT vaal, got an armor set with a decent defense value, neg water res. his attacks would 1 shot from 200 HP (this was back before IB.) then i switched to an armor set with an equal value of defense, but it was maxed out for water res (i forgot what i achieved, but with food buffs it was around 40ish. no defender hi food skill either) and as a result his attack that one shot me left me near dead. then i died from tick damage anyway when i got up xD.

so unless they changed it.

[Mr. Orion Quest]

MR Vaal is part Water damage, and part effluvia, those grey patches are also effluvia that chips your health despite defenses, if you used a vitality mantle, this chip damage is negated (if you also have effluvia resist 3). You can also use a torch pod to burn these patches.

[Ironslayer541]

引用自 Caridor：

引用自 maelynx：

You must be missing something. I know that he can sometimes grow a spore puff where you're grappling and shotgun you for a decent bit, but I've never been oneshot like that.

I'll have look into the spore puffs but the 3 times I've died to grappling, I've grabbed onto his back legs (or there about) and he's just run forward and one shot me. I should add my health was close to max as well. ~180 or about there.

If you have rocksteady mantle on its possible your getting hit by many attacks all at once so it insta kill you. Due to the nature of how the mantle works and what often happens when you cluch claw while its on.

[Xilo The Odd]

引用自 Mr. Orion Quest：

MR Vaal is part Water damage, and part effluvia, those grey patches are also effluvia that chips your health despite defenses, if you used a vitality mantle, this chip damage is negated (if you also have effluvia resist 3). You can also use a torch pod to burn these patches.

wait those spore patches can burn from torch pods? hmm... what about bowgun fire shot? like water shot on lunastras flames?

[Netsa]

The spore puffs that hit his clutch zones don't knock you off even without rocksteady, iirc, and they ignore temporal. It's possible you just weren't watching your health bar and they stealth-killed you, since their damage is surprisingly high.

[Mr. Orion Quest]

引用自 Xilo The Odd：

引用自 Mr. Orion Quest：

MR Vaal is part Water damage, and part effluvia, those grey patches are also effluvia that chips your health despite defenses, if you used a vitality mantle, this chip damage is negated (if you also have effluvia resist 3). You can also use a torch pod to burn these patches.

wait those spore patches can burn from torch pods? hmm... what about bowgun fire shot? like water shot on lunastras flames?

I honestly can't tell you, but the old way of burning effluvia is also the same way to get rid of those grey patches (same for Lunastra and water pods).

[Xilo The Odd]

引用自 Mr. Orion Quest：

引用自 Xilo The Odd：

wait those spore patches can burn from torch pods? hmm... what about bowgun fire shot? like water shot on lunastras flames?

I honestly can't tell you, but the old way of burning effluvia is also the same way to get rid of those grey patches (same for Lunastra and water pods).

i may have to experiment... if fire shot can clear those anthrax clouds... i may have a new way of fighting that walking lung cancer from smoking victim.

[RAIN3801あまっぴ]

Since I never used Effluvia resistance in fighting Blackveil vaal boi before so I can't give a proper opinion..(Hunting Horn User just need Teostra Musica HH and Vaal is basically a kid waiting to be smacked by their mom)
Try and not use Rock Steady, Immunity Mantle will help, and Glider Mantle is quite good for the 4 lv 4 deco slot .
ALWAYS get Health Boost 3, and use Health Augment if you can't , If you're in story mode, get free meal with null berry