Which Elemental Bow should I build vs Alatreon and in general?

[Alby]

1st time and I heard that I need to reach an elemental treshhold to stop his nova.
So, do I need to farm Kjarr or Safi Bows?
Also do I need to farm Silver Rathalos, Velkhana and Safi armors?

[michaelroelant]

Kjarr if u dont mind farming her, but any fire/ice bow will do tbh
armor depends on ur stamina management, think some namielle armor pieces has good comfort skills for bow
Silver rathalos is gud yeah, velkana good in theory but skills are meh, safi if u are a gud hunter

[Ember]

Craftable bows are enough. You don't have to grind for Kjarr or Safi, but they do help, yes. Definitely not a requirement to clear it. If you have the sanity and time for some powerful gear, go on.

Either Silverlos or Safi armor if you can get your hands on it.

Needed? No. Do they help a lot with the fight? Yes. You might get more than two topples depending on how aggressive you are. One is enough to survive the fight anyway.

Skills, all you need is to max out the element and get the usual core skills for bow, rest is optional.

[Alby]

Escrito originalmente por Fun:

Craftable bows are enough. You don't have to grind for Kjarr or Safi, but they do help, yes. Definitely not a requirement to clear it. If you have the sanity and time for some powerful gear, go on.

Either Silverlos or Safi armor if you can get your hands on it.

Needed? No. Do they help a lot with the fight? Yes. You might get more than two topples depending on how aggressive you are. One is enough to survive the fight anyway.

Skills, all you need is to max out the element and get the usual core skills for bow, rest is optional.

I want to farm them anyway because I want to be efficient with the Bow, it's also my only elemental weapon.
I was wondering tho, if Kjarr weapons already have Critical Element and Safi got True Critical Element and they do not stack each other, why should I farm 2 pieces of Velkhana or 4 pieces of Silver Rathalos?
Isn't the meta still pretty much full Fatalis?

[Ember]

Well, i didn't consider Fatalis because you mentioned it's your first time with Alatreon, but 4piece Fatty is still meta, yes.

Escrito originalmente por Alby:

I was wondering tho, if Kjarr weapons already have Critical Element and Safi got True Critical Element and they do not stack each other, why should I farm 2 pieces of Velkhana or 4 pieces of Silver Rathalos?
Isn't the meta still pretty much full Fatalis?

Dragonvein Awakening (Safi's set bonus) is different from critical element, so you should be fine with both. They give you a massive boost in damage if you can use it well. Especially with the full set.

If you do get your hands on Kjarr weapons, which have critical element by default iirc, then silverlos won't be needed anymore. That's where full safi come in. Later on, you could go with Fatalis + Safi or Fatalis + Velkhana, all up to you.

I mentioned Silverlos earlier in case you wanted to give it a shot without Kjarr/Safi weapons. The set would definitely be useful that way. You can skip it now since you are willing to be more efficient.

Also, i assume you already know the elements needed for the fight? Ice and Fire, just in case you didn't.

Don't bother with dragon by the way, the hitzones are absolutely garbage and definitely not worth the investment. It will take too long to get the topple with that and it's only useful a little bit before the nova. You sure as hell don't want to be effective for only 1 or 2 minutes do you?

There is only one quest where the Fire weapons will be useful and that's the Dawn of the Death Star event quest. All other Alatreon quests will require you to bring an Ice weapon. Focus on that one first.

Good luck with the grind chief.

Edit: One thing i forgot to mention because i assume most people would figure that out by now but you never know, break his horns in dragon mode. That will prevent him from changing elements and your weapon will still be useful.

Unfortunately, you can only break it twice, but it takes about 3 novas for him to start changing elements if that's the case. That's about 18 minutes, if he is not low by that point you need to be more aggressive.

[DoEFotGS]

Escrito originalmente por Alby:

I was wondering tho, if Kjarr weapons already have Critical Element and Safi got True Critical Element and they do not stack each other, why should I farm 2 pieces of Velkhana or 4 pieces of Silver Rathalos?

Elemental damage can't crit without Critical element or True Critical Element. What's why this two set bonuses is important.

Critical Boost skill do not affect elemental crits, only raw part of your damage. Elemental crit modifiers is fixed for each weapon type. For bow is 1.35 with CE and 1.55 with TCE.

Safi set bonus, Dragonvein Awakening or True Dragonvein Awakening, provide additional affinity, elemental damage or status build up and modified elemental/status cap as long as your weapon drawn.

Bonus values is:
8 true element/status (80 bloated), 20 affinity and set cap to 2.2 for 3 pieces.
15 true element/status (150 bloated), 40 affinity and set cap to 2.55 for 5 pieces.

For exchange each attack with your weapon is damage you by fixed amount of HP (5 HP for bow), even if you missed, but recover more HP after several successful attacks (8 for bow). If you don't miss, you will recover 60 HP after spending 40. This can be modified by Recovery Up skill. But be aware that heal counter reset every time you sheathe your weapon, so be careful with tenderizing - it force you to sheath.

You can use craftable weapon with Velkhana CE and Safi 3 pieces DA to compete vs Silverlos/Azure Era TCE. Also we has almost broken craftable varians for fire and ice. Glavenus bow after augmenting and custom upgrades is very good. Frostfang's Edelesha is nearly edentical to fully awakened Safi bow.

Escrito originalmente por Alby:

Isn't the meta still pretty much full Fatalis?

If we talk about highter possible damage - Safi + CE is best option for elemental weapons. But Fatalis set can fit a lot of skills and more comfortable to use. Also Safi weapon can be part of Velkhana set and get full benefits from 4 pieces Fatalis + Velkhana Y head/legs. For bow exactly this variant used for water and thunder, but IIRC it's because Kjarr water and thunder has no power coatings which uses is also affected by TSS from 4 pieces of Fatalis.