Just hit HR and wondering about weapons

[Ray]

Just got the random quest to fight Zorah Magdaros again and after crafting 2 pieces of gear have enough for either a long sword or charge blade of Zorah Magdaros tier. I am new to both weapons and can't decide which I want so was wondering if anyoe could give me some feedback on if one is objectively better than the other. Thanks in advance

[Vulcain]

The long sword is easy to use at beginning, basic move are easy and hit qui hard but there is a possibility to improve a lot with and do better moves/harder moves. There is a huge gap between a noob long sword user and good long sword user.

[KnockerLocker]

Both are fine weapon but if you new better focus on completing armor first? C

[Ray]

I have a full set of HR armor now, these are just the first 2 weapons I'm able to craft in HR and was curious. I was also thinking about the Greatsword but im not sure, they all seem great :/

[CrySeeker]

I'm just gonna quote from naruto "follow your ninja way"

[Len]

I used the Steel Longsword Tree all the way until I could farm all the arena for my Supremacy Blade and Divine Slasher/Calamity.

For Charge Blade, Diablos Tree.

LS and CB plays almost identical. LS is pretty much charging your Spirit gauge to max as fast as you can and unleashing Helm Breaker. CB is just charging your phials and unleashing SAED to the enemy.

Both requires basic knowledge for enemy patterns. almost identical to be honest. for CB, you'd want to master Point Guarding and for LS, Foresight Slashing.

Now which is easier? Easily, Charge Blade just because of the fact that phial damage ignores weakspots and sharpness like any other explosive damage.

But If you'd ask for my own opinion, I'd say Longsword just because of the fact that I'm just naturally good with it that it's almost no challenge. I was not as good of a CB user until I started playing it more often.


(Charge Blade would actually outdamage a Longsword on most cases as well because building phials are so much easier than relying on the enemy attacking you so you could instantly charge your spirit gauge with a counter attack.)

[Ray]

Charge Blade it is then, thanks for the help guys :)

[tuna_fan68]

The Zorah melee weapons aren't very good because of the poor sharpness. Stick to the ore line and you'll eventually get to the Nergigante weapons, which are decent all around and don't require heavy skill investments

[KnockerLocker]

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I have a full set of HR armor now, these are just the first 2 weapons I'm able to craft in HR and was curious. I was also thinking about the Greatsword but im not sure, they all seem great :/

Both weapon you say have very similar concept but the playstyle is different. If you gonna gs just get wyren ignition while the event still last.


Take note hbg zorah is gold though

[Len]

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The Zorah melee weapons aren't very good because of the poor sharpness. Stick to the ore line and you'll eventually get to the Nergigante weapons, which are decent all around and don't require heavy skill investments

SAED phial damage doesnt rely on sharpness.

[tuna_fan68]

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The Zorah melee weapons aren't very good because of the poor sharpness. Stick to the ore line and you'll eventually get to the Nergigante weapons, which are decent all around and don't require heavy skill investments

SAED phial damage doesnt rely on sharpness.

Just the phials. The hits leading to it do, and the zorah CB has the same raw damage as the nerg one but has -10% affinity and bad sharpness.

[Tarshaid]

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SAED phial damage doesnt rely on sharpness.

Just the phials. The hits leading to it do, and the zorah CB has the same raw damage as the nerg one but has -10% affinity and bad sharpness.

Sure thing, but I doubt that our "just hit HR" guy has the option to use any nergigante weapons currently, and it's not like the ore line required to craft said nerg weapons was hard to get.

[=Sarsante=]

None, craft zorah alpha armor

[tuna_fan68]

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Just the phials. The hits leading to it do, and the zorah CB has the same raw damage as the nerg one but has -10% affinity and bad sharpness.

Sure thing, but I doubt that our "just hit HR" guy has the option to use any nergigante weapons currently, and it's not like the ore line required to craft said nerg weapons was hard to get.

I'm just saying it's a more efficient investment. The Zorah CB demands a lot in skills to be good or you'll be hitting yellow sharpness very frequently.

Edit: I should also mention that the final Zorah CB requires an XJ shell anyway, so you'll be stuck with the rarity 5 version for a while which deals way less raw damage than the ore CB's you'd progress to

[Len]

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Sure thing, but I doubt that our "just hit HR" guy has the option to use any nergigante weapons currently, and it's not like the ore line required to craft said nerg weapons was hard to get.

I'm just saying it's a more efficient investment. The Zorah CB demands a lot in skills to be good or you'll be hitting yellow sharpness very frequently.

It's true but we're talking about CB where this weapon's main DPS skill hits almost just as much regardless of sharpness. The OP presented a choice and we tried to answer it by stating which is better on most scenarios.

There's a reason why Diablos CB is the meta. Because phial damage doesn't require affinity and sharpness. so you're sure that 75% of your DPS hits as hard regardless of your sharpness level or where you hit the enemy. He's also on the point of the game where he'll be switching and upgrading his gear specially his weapon more often and investing to a CB Nergigante weapon is bad compared to Diablos just because of the raw damage it gives.

Nergigante Tree is always that early end game weapon that you can just ignore and skip unless you're not that good and badly needs an upgrade for whatever reason.

It's average at best but it does its work to say the least.

[tuna_fan68]

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I'm just saying it's a more efficient investment. The Zorah CB demands a lot in skills to be good or you'll be hitting yellow sharpness very frequently.

It's true but we're talking about CB where this weapon's main DPS skill hits almost just as much regardless of sharpness. The OP presented a choice and we tried to answer it by stating which is better on most scenarios.

There's a reason why Diablos CB is the meta. Because phial damage doesn't require affinity and sharpness. so you're sure that 75% of your DPS hits as hard regardless of your sharpness level or where you hit the enemy. He's also on the point of the game where he'll be switching and upgrading his gear specially his weapon more often and investing to a CB Nergigante weapon is bad compared to Diablos just because of the raw damage it gives.

Nergigante Tree is always that early end game weapon that you can just ignore and skip unless you're not that good and badly needs an upgrade for whatever reason.

It's average at best but it does its work to say the least.

I've not claimed the Nerg weapons are amazing, I said they were decent, and they are.
Nergigante melee weapons require the least amount of skill investments while having good stats overall, and elderseal which is helpful for the fighting the next few elder dragons.

You can never go wrong with Nerg, and for pretty much every melee weapon type, it sits as a safe choice to pick up because it has no noteworthy downsides but has above average raw damage, out of the box blue sharpness, dragon damage, neutral affinity, elderseal, and is one of the easiest to craft.

It won't be performing the greatest compared to other choices, but it's an easy line to progress towards as opposed to the Zorah tree which most of the time has nothing good to offer apart from appearance.

Oh and how does opting for a safe weapon line to craft reflect on a persons skill in the game?