Capturing and Special Arena Explanation

[Adrian]

I'm seeing a lot of people that doesn't know about this, so i'm going to explain it a little.

Actually, Monster Capture is a way more worth than killing it, it's basically, Rewards x2.
Let's say, you captured a Rathian, but you need 1 more scale, what a pain hunting it again right?
There's no need to do it, cause when you capture a monster you will get a Optional Quest called "Special Arena: Rathian" (This doesn't happen with all the monsters, but with the majority yes) this quest will be available just once (until you capture another one). So the only thing that you have to do is go in that quest, and beat her up, you get the 3 carves and another reward.

Hope you see why it's more worth capturing a monster now.
Glad to share some info.

[McMurphy]

i only capturetempered Jho, i have much more materials than i need.
If the host want to capture he can do it.

[tuna_fan68]

You don't need to capture the same monster again to get special arenas to return, they do so randomly.

And FYI, killing is better because death and destruction is cool, yo

[Doobitron]

Originally posted by Adrian:

I'm seeing a lot of people that doesn't know about this, so i'm going to explain it a little.

Actually, Monster Capture is a way more worth than killing it, it's basically, Rewards x2.
Let's say, you captured a Rathian, but you need 1 more scale, what a pain hunting it again right?
There's no need to do it, cause when you capture a monster you will get a Optional Quest called "Special Arena: Rathian" (This doesn't happen with all the monsters, but with the majority yes) this quest will be available just once (until you capture another one). So the only thing that you have to do is go in that quest, and beat her up, you get the 3 carves and another reward.

Hope you see why it's more worth capturing a monster now.
Glad to share some info.

this is somewhat inaccurate as if your trying to get the monsters gems or plate, you have a higher chance in getting these through carving a dead monster, not capturing it.

Basically if your looking for specific part..like for example the monsters fangs. Then breaking these parts off and carving is better chance of getting the specific part you need.

Now if you just need materials in general and don't need a specific item, then yes you will definitely get more rewards through capture.

It all just depends on the need of the player/players. It's not just one sided...Killing the monster and carving has its benefits.

[Stationary Traveller]

If you need mats you should do investigations, not special arenas.
Although special arenas are pretty fun.

[pmcollectorboy]

Break heads. Slice tails. Then capture.

[Ancient]

Originally posted by Doobies:

this is somewhat inaccurate

Define: irony

Most of the points in your post are inaccurate.

Originally posted by Doobies:

if your trying to get the monsters gems or plate, you have a higher chance in getting these through carving a dead monster, not capturing it.

This is incorrect. The roll tables for carves and capture are identical. By killing a monster and carving it you only get three rolls, while by capturing it, you get four rolls on the EXACT same table. Killing is always only getting you 3/4 of the possible rolls, while capturing gets you all 4. It's also worth pointing out that the extra capture roll is effectively another chance for a plate or gem, just like the 3 carves are. So it's the opposite of what you've stated: people hunting the rares like plates and gems should always be trying to capture.

Compare the Body Carve and Capture tables on any monster in the game: https://mhworld.kiranico.com/monster/

As you can see they are all identical. The first 3 rolls are for manually carving after a kill. The first 3 rolls plus an additional 4th bonus roll are given automatically if you capture.

Originally posted by Doobies:

Basically if your looking for specific part..like for example the monsters fangs. Then breaking these parts off and carving is better chance of getting the specific part you need.

This is also incorrect. Part breaks that don't result in a shiny drop are automatically looted and added at the end of a hunt in the "Bonus Rewards". If you break the face you do not need to carve the monster at all to get the horns/fangs/whatever rolled from that head break or "Wound Head" table as it's called on Kiranico. The reward from part breaks always show up in your rewards no matter what as long as the hunt is successful. Carve vs. capture has zero effect on the chance to get a specific mat from those tables.

Please try breaking Anjanath's face and then capturing one. Do this until you get a fang/fang+ or better, a Nosebone/Nosebone+ which only comes from face breaks and quest rewards. You will, and it'll show up in your Bonus Rewards box because you do not need to carve him to get that roll. It doesn't matter at all because the roll from that table is granted automatically when you get the break. You just have to succeed in the hunt to receive anything that lands in the Bonus Rewards box like broken part rewards.

Same goes for Diablos/Black Diablos. Break both horns and capture a few times and you can confirm that you still get Twisted Horn/Majestic Horn and Twisted Horn/Black Spiral Horn+ even without carving.

I realize most MH vets think you need to carve to get special break rolls because it was that way in previous titles, but they're wrong here. In MHW you don't. You just need to complete the hunt and whatever rolled from breaks will be in your Bonus Rewards box at end of mission.

Originally posted by Doobies:

Now if you just need materials in general and don't need a specific item, then yes you will definitely get more rewards through capture.

The only normal situation where killing could be more beneficial is if you still need to get several more key breaks/tail sever/plunderblade rolls during the monster's last 30% of it's HP, which can happen if a team is not that organized (not enough partbreaker, too many people happy to hit legs/body instead of being more patient and working breakables).

Another outlying reason to kill over capturing is if everyone has Carving Master. Then of course, you not only get the additional 30% monster HP to do any remaining breaks/tail sever/possible plunderblade rolls but will still get 4 rolls from carving after it's dead at the increased cost of the time it takes to finish the monster off. Ideally, people should be working this in later on when fighting elders so they always get 4 carves, at least until they have everything they need from the monster's Body Carve/Capture tables, including rares like plates and gems.

[Juno Brier]

Originally posted by Ancient:

Originally posted by Doobies:

Basically if your looking for specific part..like for example the monsters fangs. Then breaking these parts off and carving is better chance of getting the specific part you need.

This is also incorrect. Part breaks that don't result in a shiny drop are automatically looted and added at the end of a hunt in the "Bonus Rewards". If you break the face you do not need to carve the monster at all to get the horns/fangs/whatever rolled from that head break or "Wound Head" table as it's called on Kiranico. The reward from part breaks always show up in your rewards no matter what as long as the hunt is successful. Carve vs. capture has zero effect on the chance to get a specific mat from those tables.

The real funny part is that in previous games where capturing and carving actually did have different drop tables, for most monsters the rare item usually had a higher % chance from capturing.

[JebKerman]

Originally posted by Ancient:

*The biggest of snips*

Juuuust gonna point out the only exceptions according to the field guide that are a carve exclusive reward.

Daora Tail
Teosta Tail
Nergigante Tail
Vaal Hazak Tail
Xeno'Jiiva Tail

Can only be obtained by carving severed tails, allegedly.
However I swear I got 5 tails from 1 Xeno once, so it may be an oversight in the book.