Is there a cap for elemental resistance? Im getting smashed by the Stygian Zinogre

[maldorf]

His dragon AOE is destroying me and I cant find anyone to come help me fight it. So for me I have lost 3x now in solo battles. I have my dragon resistance up over 20 now but the damage is still too high for me to withstand, If I bump the dragon resistance up to 30, is that the cap? I dont know what the cap is and if its worth me raising it more. I dont know how i can beat this unless I do, or if someone would join me.

[cruste]

post session id if you want help
sound like you are maybe a little bit undergeared for the fight, so upgrade your armor to 1k+ value and you should be fine

fortify is a nice skill if you suck and still trying to solo, you are returning stronger after every cart and it can be used twice 20%more attck and 30% more def for a single lvl1 deco slot.

you haven't posted your used gear, so it is hard to figure out where you may fail.
health boost+3 is mandatory in mr fights

[Kawalorn]

If I remember each point of element resistance gives you 0.5% reduction against that element. Generally there is no point in stacking that above 20 with some super rare exceptions (3rd phase Fatalis with unbroken head) since blight resistance is the biggest factor.

Especially since even Zinogres Dragon attack are still partially Physical meaning not all of it will be even reduced by the Dragon Resistance.

You should look for other sources of defensive skills. If you don't have them, Health Boost, Divine Blessing and if you don't mind fainting a few times, Fortify, are the basic ones.

[maldorf]

Ill have to look at my gear. I just joined 3 others doing it and we all failed.

[Smaugi]

I don't think there is a cap but it makes almost no diffrence 9/10 as most of its attacks deal more physical damage than elemental damage.

[maldorf]

Publicado originalmente por Lord Gwyn:

I don't think there is a cap but it makes almost no diffrence 9/10 as most of its attacks deal more physical damage than elemental damage.

Managed to get it near death and then at the last minute someone came in and joined me, helped me take it down. Had less than 10 minutes left and only 1 faint to go.

If I get caught in that wave of dragon fire, it can deliver some decent damage, but I can tell it was way down after I got my dragon defense up to 23. What was really destroying me was when he would jump on me or when I would clutch it and he would throw me off into the air. That was massive damage.

[maldorf]

I have blessing, health boost and defense all maxed out. My armor is up to 933 now after this last fight, Need more money to pay for the armor upgrades. I guess I should probably go out and farm money on quests. I have plenty of armor upgrade gems to use, just not enough money to use them. None of my pieces are maxed out anylonger.

[maldorf]

The next 2 targets are the Raging brachydios and the Furious Rajang. Have to figure out their weaknesses and attacks.

[Hassel]

the main part with elemental resistance is if you have it as 20 or higher, at 20+ you are immune to the specific elemental blight, the main thing you want to focus on upgrading your armor to highest lvl, also defence boost is not worth it when you are past 950-1000, you berly gain ANY dmg reduction

[maldorf]

Publicado originalmente por Hassel:

the main part with elemental resistance is if you have it as 20 or higher, at 20+ you are immune to the specific elemental blight, the main thing you want to focus on upgrading your armor to highest lvl, also defence boost is not worth it when you are past 950-1000, you berly gain ANY dmg reduction

Ive been using the chest armor with elemental effects immunity built into it, so not worried about that. Ive mainly been watching the resistances for dmg reduction.

[CookedMeat]

1. There is no known cap for elemental resistance, at least unreachable with legit means.
2. ER is mostly useless unless the monster's attack have a higher portion of elemental damage, like Kirin for example. Another common use of ER is stacking it until 20 to gain specific blight resistance, which, could also be achieved by having the skill BlightResistance.

If you're struggling with specific monster, utilize your mantles. Mantles give a 70% damage reduction of specific elements. (Same condition as point 2, if the monster's attack are mainly physical, the damage reduction won't be too visible). Plus, it also gives complete immunity to blights/debuffs related to its element. For example, fireproof mantle grants fireblight, blastblight and hot area DoT effects, which will be useful against Brachidios.

Rajang is a mostly physical monster. I would recommend using Temporal + Vitality mantle. If you have access to, swap Vitality to Rocksteady.

[maldorf]

Thanks.

[Spirit]

Publicado originalmente por maldorf:

Ill have to look at my gear. I just joined 3 others doing it and we all failed.

Wow...well I would avoid Fatty at least for a while if Stygian Zinogre gives that much trouble. Alatreon may be possible before the end of the year for you though.

It sounds like Rajang and Brachy-chan are your targets at the moment. Both can be tricky in that you can be kicking their behinds most of the fight, and then out of nowhere they kill 2-3 people within just a few seconds. Rare, but it can happen with an inexperienced group.

Anywho, Brachy is obvious enough. Rajang, however...unless you have a skilled team the best bet is to have someone clutch claw a wound into his back so that he is easier to damage.

Good luck.

[maldorf]

Publicado originalmente por 729:

Publicado originalmente por maldorf:

Ill have to look at my gear. I just joined 3 others doing it and we all failed.

Wow...well I would avoid Fatty at least for a while if Stygian Zinogre gives that much trouble. Alatreon may be possible before the end of the year for you though.

It sounds like Rajang and Brachy-chan are your targets at the moment. Both can be tricky in that you can be kicking their behinds most of the fight, and then out of nowhere they kill 2-3 people within just a few seconds. Rare, but it can happen with an inexperienced group.

Anywho, Brachy is obvious enough. Rajang, however...unless you have a skilled team the best bet is to have someone clutch claw a wound into his back so that he is easier to damage.

Good luck.

Thanks for the advice.

[MyPotatoAim]

If you don't mind some more advice for builds/end game hunts in general, I'd like to throw in my two cents. I personally find having the defense skill in builds to be almost useless, at least for most weapons/playstyles. I hosted hundreds of carry sessions for Alatreon and Fatalis on xbox, and I can confidently say when I advised my hunters to replace defense boost with skills like evade window/evade extender, they held their own a lot better.

Usually with end game fights, you're gonna get two-hit in a good combo anyway. Even with Fatty, AT Velk, or Ala gear, it's easy to get caught in situations where you get combo'd back to camp within literal seconds.

Eventually when you get to Alatreon, Fatalis, and AT Velk, you're going to need more room in your builds for damage skills anyway, since those three fights are pure DPS checks. I know this is gonna sound a bit like I'm saying "git gud", but I promise its not; you'll fare a lot better by learning each monster's movesets, as well as the timing for dodging with your preferred weapons. Skills like evade window and evade extender are gonna be your two best friends for that. I'm a hardcore bow main, and even I managed to solo Fatalis with a Great Sword build I made randomly, despite only having double digit hunts with the weapon.

If you ever want a hunting partner, I'm always down. I have patience with learning hunters cause we've all been there, and I'd like to say I'm pretty good at making builds... even for weapons I've never touched. I did have a fatalis build end up in an Arekkz video for a weapon I never use after all ;p

Just shoot me a friend request/message whenever. I'm still new to the game on PC but I'm about to beat IB already, so almost caught up to you

[maldorf]

Publicado originalmente por MyPotatoAim:

If you don't mind some more advice for builds/end game hunts in general, I'd like to throw in my two cents. I personally find having the defense skill in builds to be almost useless, at least for most weapons/playstyles. I hosted hundreds of carry sessions for Alatreon and Fatalis on xbox, and I can confidently say when I advised my hunters to replace defense boost with skills like evade window/evade extender, they held their own a lot better.

Usually with end game fights, you're gonna get two-hit in a good combo anyway. Even with Fatty, AT Velk, or Ala gear, it's easy to get caught in situations where you get combo'd back to camp within literal seconds.

Eventually when you get to Alatreon, Fatalis, and AT Velk, you're going to need more room in your builds for damage skills anyway, since those three fights are pure DPS checks. I know this is gonna sound a bit like I'm saying "git gud", but I promise its not; you'll fare a lot better by learning each monster's movesets, as well as the timing for dodging with your preferred weapons. Skills like evade window and evade extender are gonna be your two best friends for that. I'm a hardcore bow main, and even I managed to solo Fatalis with a Great Sword build I made randomly, despite only having double digit hunts with the weapon.

If you ever want a hunting partner, I'm always down. I have patience with learning hunters cause we've all been there, and I'd like to say I'm pretty good at making builds... even for weapons I've never touched. I did have a fatalis build end up in an Arekkz video for a weapon I never use after all ;p

Just shoot me a friend request/message whenever. I'm still new to the game on PC but I'm about to beat IB already, so almost caught up to you

Thanks!

Ok, I will do away with the defense decorations and wearing the amulet. I will reinforce with evade helpers. I agree about learning the move sets. Ive already been doing that. These later fights remind me of Dark Souls a bit. Ive completed all 3 of those.

Is maxing out the elemental resists like fire and lightning a waste in most cases too? Since physical damage is most of the damage. I did find using the lightning with the Kirin was nearly essential and made the fight easy for me.

So much of this game depends on equipment, it can make all the difference it seems.