When to use armor sphere ?

[sheap]

Hello i am wondering because i am at the beginning of Iceborne, MR1 doing optional quests, and i still haven't use sphere since I am always switching armor set, I have never felt I needed more def but I'd like to get in min/max stuff for the fun so when will I be sure an armor is worth using sphere on it ? (meaning I will still use that armor on endgame)

[Cid]

soon
when you realize you only 1/2 hit by the monsters

[Suzaku]

As long as you keep rotating bounties and running the steamworks, you'll never run out of armor spheres. You should probably use them at every opportunity regardless of how well you're performing.

[CookedMeat]

You'll probably run out of money faster than armor spheres...

[sheap]

Originally posted by Cid:

soon
when you realize you only 1/2 hit by the monsters

I tought it was supposed to be the case right at the beginning of Iceborne, I only beat Beatodus which was fast and easy hunt, now doin optional quest on MR1, and my defense already took a very big jump with astral and beat pieces, should i still be worried about the gap between world and iceborne ?

[Cid]

Originally posted by sheap:

Originally posted by Cid:

soon
when you realize you only 1/2 hit by the monsters

I tought it was supposed to be the case right at the beginning of Iceborne, I only beat Beatodus which was fast and easy hunt, now doin optional quest on MR1, and my defense already took a very big jump with astral and beat pieces, should i still be worried about the gap between world and iceborne ?

it will be like that till you reach fatalis gear
when you achieve end game gear of course it's not gonna 1/2 hit you anymore but by progressing it i will always be like that if you had/no with 200 hp

[sheap]

Originally posted by Cid:

Originally posted by sheap:

I tought it was supposed to be the case right at the beginning of Iceborne, I only beat Beatodus which was fast and easy hunt, now doin optional quest on MR1, and my defense already took a very big jump with astral and beat pieces, should i still be worried about the gap between world and iceborne ?

it will be like that till you reach fatalis gear
when you achieve end game gear of course it's not gonna 1/2 hit you anymore but by progressing it i will always be like that if you had/no with 200 hp

At what MR you start being one or two shot ? (Just beat banbaro was same difficulty)

[Cid]

all the way till you reach IB end game
HP skills is a must on IB if possible pick divine blessing more than deff up
elemental rest also fine it help alot just it's hard to match up the skills so it can be done by eating

[Huillam]

Originally posted by sheap:

At what MR you start being one or two shot ? (Just beat banbaro was same difficulty)

Depends of the monster. But Alatreon, Fatalis, Gold Rathian, Silver Rathalos, Rajang can easily two shots you with end game gear (or one shot you with some attacks or if using the Rocksteady Mantle).

A lot of monsters have some attacks that inflict a lot of damage but as long as they don't chain them (and they usually don't) you can survive two hits in a row.


Now as CookedMeat said, armor spheres aren't that hard to come by but upgrading your armor is a big money sink. At least until you unlock the Guiding Lands. At that point you'll earn millions from the Steamworks.

[Ember]

Originally posted by Huillam:

Now as CookedMeat said, armor spheres aren't that hard to come by but upgrading your armor is a big money sink. At least until you unlock the Guiding Lands. At that point you'll earn millions from the Steamworks.

Or you could just you know, do the Zinogre Event quest? Unless people really hate Zinogre, then i can understand doing that weird route for mines.

There is also Brute Tigrex event quest for spheres iirc, a lot of options at endgame.

[Huillam]

Originally posted by Fun:

Or you could just you know, do the Zinogre Event quest? Unless people really hate Zinogre, then i can understand doing that weird route for mines.

There is also Brute Tigrex event quest for spheres iirc, a lot of options at endgame.

Sphere aren't, at least in my experience, the issue. Money easily is.
A Farewell to Zinogre is an alternative to mining in the Guiding Lands but one needs to be MR24 for that one.

[Ember]

Originally posted by Huillam:

There is also Brute Tigrex event quest for spheres iirc, a lot of options at endgame.
Sphere aren't, at least in my experience, the issue. Money easily is.
A Farewell to Zinogre is an alternative to mining in the Guiding Lands but if I'm not mistaken it requires to have completed Iceborne story.

So is the Guiding Lands. You were talking about endgame and so was i.

A Farewell To Zinogre is actually more fun to do rather than the minecraft simulator imo, but it's mainly ones preference. You get both money and spheres on steamworks, so the quest works wonders to get fuel and actually have a good time monster hunting.

[AKYM |]

Originally posted by Huillam:

Now as CookedMeat said, armor spheres aren't that hard to come by but upgrading your armor is a big money sink. At least until you unlock the Guiding Lands. At that point you'll earn millions from the Steamworks.

quick explain on the "-1 GL grind" :you can see in each zone there are bone&ore with colour white->yellow->red, then spawn a rare and reset to yellow.
It gain exp when ever you finish a gathering point, that come into the "-1":
Reach red level but dont finish the gather spot by -1(with skill you get 4@ore/ 5@bone so only get 3 ore and 4 bone) move to another area and wait for new spawn. now you always&only have red spot to gather. ppl said you can grind 40K+ pt within an hour doing this

Originally posted by Fun:

Or you could just you know, do the Zinogre Event quest? Unless people really hate Zinogre, then i can understand doing that weird route for mines.

zing one is for steamwork, and brute tigrex one will straight up drop you the top tier true sphere. The pros is as clear as the quest itself, its more interactive you got to hunt.
Yet it don't over shade the heavy cons of
-Despite the fat & juicy loot, they're anticlimactic AF you have to stop fighting to loot while getting beat up
-I've seen too many aint that efficient on hunting with either weird build or chicken like hunting style, if go gather restocking and bounty hunt on sphere for 30 min is the same time spend on rolling the dice hoping you can finish one hunt, why not go for the weird route then

[Ember]

Interesting, i didn't know people had a hard time with Zinogre. You don't actually need to gather the shinies btw, but they do help.

Also, if you're actually spending 30 minutes in a fight, something is off. Most runs i've made with randoms took like 13 minutes max? For that quest.

Like i said above, it's up to your preference if you want to hunt or mine nodes at the GL. Brute can be ignored if you don't have enough money, the quest is still useful in certain situations.

Chances are, you won't even lack the spheres anyway as said by everyone. Money and Research points are a big deal in this game.

Also a tip: Palico's Plunderblade yellow shinies are trade-in items that can give you some neat cash, i'd recommend using it from time to time.

[Huillam]

Originally posted by Fun:

Also, if you're actually spending 30 minutes in a fight, something is off. Most runs i've made with randoms took like 13 minutes max? For that quest.

Bad gear and bad builds. I don't think I had a single MR fights taking less than 20mn before I was done with the story and started to really optimize my gear and build.

[The Knowledgeseeker's]

Originally posted by Huillam:

Bad gear and bad builds. I don't think I had a single MR fights taking less than 20mn before I was done with the story and started to really optimize my gear and build.

I know a lot of peoples don't like to hear that. But there is also bad player. Some peoples just don't play their weapon well which may add a lot of time to the hunt.