How important constitution / mr on DB

[Padoru]

People say its not necessary for DB to have marathon runner or constitution because of arch mode which keeps the damage and effects of demon mode except for the moveset, and because of this, it is said a good way to recover stamina to turn in demon mode again. Hence, not requiring the mr/cons skills.

So how is this true? I watch mhw guides and they say marathon is a mostly "must have" skill for db. I've experienced the mr skill and its a helpful skill while at demon mode but im struggling if i should swap it out.

[LUNAR.Aussie]

Well, for me if I was used DB. I drank Dash juice and ate food from the canteen with a felyne black belt on it. With that u have at least 25% Reduces stamina depletion. In another word u have free Constitution skill for at least 10min on the hunt.

[Dena Beloved]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย LUNAR.Aussie:

Well, for me if I was used DB. I drank Dash juice and ate food from the canteen with a felyne black belt on it. With that u have at least 25% Reduces stamina depletion. In another word u have free Constitution skill for at least 10min on the hunt.

Dash Juice equates to 2 Constitution, from what I have heard.

[LUNAR.Aussie]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Dena Beloved:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย LUNAR.Aussie:

Well, for me if I was used DB. I drank Dash juice and ate food from the canteen with a felyne black belt on it. With that u have at least 25% Reduces stamina depletion. In another word u have free Constitution skill for at least 10min on the hunt.

Dash Juice equates to 2 Constitution, from what I have heard.

Yeah from dash juice it self 25% if im not wrong. And from felyne black belt its like 10-15%. But the point is u didnt need Constitution skill for db. As long as you use buff from dash juice or food skill from canteen. Well for me rather than use Constitution, i prefer to use stamina refresh. Me personally i alwasy drink dash juice before hunt

[Dena Beloved]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย LUNAR.Aussie:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Dena Beloved:

Dash Juice equates to 2 Constitution, from what I have heard.

Yeah from dash juice it self 25% if im not wrong. And from felyne black belt its like 10-15%. But the point is u didnt need Constitution skill for db. As long as you use buff from dash juice or food skill from canteen. Well for me rather than use Constitution, i prefer to use stamina refresh. Me personally i alwasy drink dash juice before hunt

If you end up with Fatalis's set, as well as the proper jewels, you can end up with all of the stamina skills in one set. It's no exaggeration to say that stamina management ceases to exist by that point besides the occasional arch demon mode so you get stamina back. Which is me saying you can stay in demon mode constantly.

As for the skills outside the set, I'd say to go for one, the other, or both if you find you run out of stamina at bad times. Look back to how it keeps leading to those stamina issues, and apply the skill that would help and see if it helps any.
In addition or just using Dash Juice if you can get a steady supply by that point.

[Padoru]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Dena Beloved:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย LUNAR.Aussie:

Yeah from dash juice it self 25% if im not wrong. And from felyne black belt its like 10-15%. But the point is u didnt need Constitution skill for db. As long as you use buff from dash juice or food skill from canteen. Well for me rather than use Constitution, i prefer to use stamina refresh. Me personally i alwasy drink dash juice before hunt

If you end up with Fatalis's set, as well as the proper jewels, you can end up with all of the stamina skills in one set. It's no exaggeration to say that stamina management ceases to exist by that point besides the occasional arch demon mode so you get stamina back. Which is me saying you can stay in demon mode constantly.

As for the skills outside the set, I'd say to go for one, the other, or both if you find you run out of stamina at bad times. Look back to how it keeps leading to those stamina issues, and apply the skill that would help and see if it helps any.
In addition or just using Dash Juice if you can get a steady supply by that point.

As you mentioned it is neccessary for a db user to have atleast one stamina skills. For now, i have a marathon 3 skill on armor and I haven't got in a major stamina issues.

I'm currently on pre-iceborne so i dont have the endgame sets. My current issue having is the "is it better to remove the stamina skills for an exchange of x skills/set" or "is it better to keep stamina skills all the time".
My only option for stamina buffs are armor skills and juice, i haven't unlocked the marathon runner III charm, black belt ingredient or having a stamina decos.

[LUNAR.Aussie]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Dena Beloved:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย LUNAR.Aussie:

Yeah from dash juice it self 25% if im not wrong. And from felyne black belt its like 10-15%. But the point is u didnt need Constitution skill for db. As long as you use buff from dash juice or food skill from canteen. Well for me rather than use Constitution, i prefer to use stamina refresh. Me personally i alwasy drink dash juice before hunt

If you end up with Fatalis's set, as well as the proper jewels, you can end up with all of the stamina skills in one set. It's no exaggeration to say that stamina management ceases to exist by that point besides the occasional arch demon mode so you get stamina back. Which is me saying you can stay in demon mode constantly.

As for the skills outside the set, I'd say to go for one, the other, or both if you find you run out of stamina at bad times. Look back to how it keeps leading to those stamina issues, and apply the skill that would help and see if it helps any.
In addition or just using Dash Juice if you can get a steady supply by that point.

True. but I assume the OP didn't have fatalis armour yet. Or have a many jewel level 4 etc. So I just give him a little advice. Man with fata armour u can have good damage while u have comfort play. Not like when u using safi armour. Yes u have great damage but its like double edge sword if u not careful enough

[Emerald Lance]

Those skills aren't must have necessarily, but some stamina improvement is I think. Dash juice is a good alternative, but I think the skills are better since they don't wear off. Better still to stack skills and dash juice.

[Andy_RK]

I always use stamina surge on my DB, back then i also combined it with at least 3 constitution. But after a while, i feel that dash juice+canteen's black belt is enough, so i can free some slot. The effect of stamina surge is only 30% but somehow it felt very useful when i used it, placebo maybe idk