Fights taking too long.

[KingKobra]

Hey guys, I got the DLC about...a week ago? And I'm at nargacuga. I've noticed that everytime I advance in MR, my fights take significantly longer. I main LBG and bow but I use lbg 8/10 times. Some things to maybe know...

-not my first MH. More of a casual player. Not really struggling with most of the monsters. Don't really get hit.

-About 50% of my gear is MR rank so it's not really a matter of upgrading(I don't think)

-Getting used to clutch claw so I am using it. The wall slams though...don't really use.

-Nargacuga was taking me over 40 mins so I quit. I was using laguna blitz lbg. It was getting very, very annoying. I would say the skills but its in French so...yeah.

-When using the bow, time gets reduced by 5-10 mins.

If anybody has tips for a ranged weapon use im all ears

[Popcorn]

Elemental is best

[𝑅𝒾𝒾𝓃𝒶]

Use sticky ammo

[Andy_RK]

Post your build here using honeyhunterworld site so that we can see. Which ammo are you using? Rapid normal 2?

[Velmoria]

Capturing the monster when it sleeps also shorten the fight.
Not much else to tell other than the obvious ones like using ammo2-rapid or ammo3, shooting at weakpoint/head, since I'm assume you know what you doing.

[Greb]

I remember when I started out in MR I found that fights were dragging on a long time, especially when you wanted to capture stuff and you'd be beating on it for a good 15+ minutes and you'd start to worry it was going to die, but then when you tried popping the trap + tranqs it still wouldn't be time yet.

They seem to have huge HP bloat, but once you get to the higher tier stuff that HP bloat stops really being a thing and everything starts dying very fast again.

Like I remember fighting stuff with the "vanilla" Iceborne equipment, Narga and Viper Kadachi HBG's with Pierce 3 ammo and stuff, it was faster killing than with my Hammer but it wasn't particularly "fast" and stuff, if I recall.

Although admittedly those days were the funnest days I had in Iceborne, once the powercreep set in it started getting a little monotonous again...I know I could just NOT use the end game gear but like...bleh. Bleh!

Don't worry anyway, your hunt times will increase as time goes on for sure, especially since you've got everything laid out in front of you. Something as simple as a Health Regen augment on your weapon can change the entire way you fight, letting you be mega aggressive again and having to stop to heal so often etc. It all adds up to faster kill times.

[DrBonifarz]

Hi KingKobra

You mention half of your gear is MR, so that may be the one reason why hunting Narga gets so tedious. There is a huge gap between HR and MR equipment, not only in terms of base stats, but also for armor skills and decorations. A decent skill set can raise DPS and/or survivability quite a bit.

Other than that, trying different weapons can help. At the time I was fighting Narge, I was maybe 40% faster with the insect glaive than with the bow. The reason? I simply could not hit the beast's weak points consistently with a bow. With the glaive, it was a fun ride, literally.

Concerning Greb's comment - yeah, that's right. Health augments are a game changer, indeed. But that's a thing at MR 100 and above.

Hope that helps - happy hunting!

[Definively Not Alchman]

i suspect it might be not really a gear issue, but more of a not knowing how be aggressive against MR monsters that are way more active

my first Barioth fights were kinda like that too, what i did was just repeat the Barioth arena quest over and over till i got hang of its movements and now i can kill him a lot better.
just practice the monsters you having problem with.

and if is a gear issue you will also get mats out of it

[Hybernix]

there are 2 problems listed right in your post:

only half of your hear is MR

you aren't using wallbangs

[KingKobra]

Originally posted by Andy_RK:

Post your build here using honeyhunterworld site so that we can see. Which ammo are you using? Rapid normal 2?

I'm a lil too lazy rn but off the top of my head....
Against narga I was using rapid pierce 2 along with Normal 2, couple of stickys

Skills are in French so I cant really translate but I do remember having Affinity up, attack up, I think ammo up?

[KingKobra]

Originally posted by DrBonifarz:

Hi KingKobra

You mention half of your gear is MR, so that may be the one reason why hunting Narga gets so tedious. There is a huge gap between HR and MR equipment, not only in terms of base stats, but also for armor skills and decorations. A decent skill set can raise DPS and/or survivability quite a bit.

Other than that, trying different weapons can help. At the time I was fighting Narge, I was maybe 40% faster with the insect glaive than with the bow. The reason? I simply could not hit the beast's weak points consistently with a bow. With the glaive, it was a fun ride, literally.

Concerning Greb's comment - yeah, that's right. Health augments are a game changer, indeed. But that's a thing at MR 100 and above.

Hope that helps - happy hunting!

Wow ok. I did know that there was a gap but not between skills. Does that mean that the jewels I got while in HR and useless now?

I am considering changing weapons for this fight.

[Popcorn]

Originally posted by KingKobra:

Originally posted by DrBonifarz:

Hi KingKobra

You mention half of your gear is MR, so that may be the one reason why hunting Narga gets so tedious. There is a huge gap between HR and MR equipment, not only in terms of base stats, but also for armor skills and decorations. A decent skill set can raise DPS and/or survivability quite a bit.

Other than that, trying different weapons can help. At the time I was fighting Narge, I was maybe 40% faster with the insect glaive than with the bow. The reason? I simply could not hit the beast's weak points consistently with a bow. With the glaive, it was a fun ride, literally.

Concerning Greb's comment - yeah, that's right. Health augments are a game changer, indeed. But that's a thing at MR 100 and above.

Hope that helps - happy hunting!

Wow ok. I did know that there was a gap but not between skills. Does that mean that the jewels I got while in HR and useless now?

I am considering changing weapons for this fight.

They're not all useless yet.
Once you get some better decos, thats when they're useless.
Most decos you'll get at that time range from meh to okay, which I, personally, tend to use the ones with "vitality/x" skill to get in that health boost and an extra skill

What most ppl tend to utilize is:
Health boost
Critical eye
Critical boost
Tenderizer

And then from there on whatever skill they want/need for their weapon.

If youre using normal 2 rapid fire, I would suggest you also insert the deco/armor skill called normal up (iirc, thats the skill name), which is only available as a lvl3 deco

If you ever use spread, it'd be spread up
If pierce, then pierce up

All of these are lvl3 decos and can be maxed at lvl2

[KingKobra]

Originally posted by Popcorn:

Originally posted by KingKobra:

Wow ok. I did know that there was a gap but not between skills. Does that mean that the jewels I got while in HR and useless now?

I am considering changing weapons for this fight.

They're not all useless yet.
Once you get some better decos, thats when they're useless.
Most decos you'll get at that time range from meh to okay, which I, personally, tend to use the ones with "vitality/x" skill to get in that health boost and an extra skill

What most ppl tend to utilize is:
Health boost
Critical eye
Critical boost
Tenderizer

And then from there on whatever skill they want/need for their weapon.

If youre using normal 2 rapid fire, I would suggest you also insert the deco/armor skill called normal up (iirc, thats the skill name), which is only available as a lvl3 deco

If you ever use spread, it'd be spread up
If pierce, then pierce up

All of these are lvl3 decos and can be maxed at lvl2

I think I have about 1 or 2 of those skills, I'll have to translate them. I actually haven't come across a normal up skill. Or a pierce one for that matter. I'll try to emphasize those next time.

[KingKobra]

Originally posted by Definively Not Alchman:

i suspect it might be not really a gear issue, but more of a not knowing how be aggressive against MR monsters that are way more active

my first Barioth fights were kinda like that too, what i did was just repeat the Barioth arena quest over and over till i got hang of its movements and now i can kill him a lot better.
just practice the monsters you having problem with.

and if is a gear issue you will also get mats out of it

I'll admit, since I'm more casual, I'm not a super aggressive player. I don't have a problem with their movesets since it's not the 1st time I've come across them. But I'll try and maybe do that.

[DrBonifarz]

Originally posted by KingKobra:

Wow ok. I did know that there was a gap but not between skills. Does that mean that the jewels I got while in HR and useless now?

With gap I just mean that even the earliest MR equipment generally offers better stats and more skills overall than HR equipment. So it does help to get a MR set, even if it is some wild mix of different parts :)

And no, your decorations of size 1-3 are definitely not useless.

For translating skill names, I recommend kiranico's mhworld database, a nice website with all the relevant info and a language switch. Are we allowed to post external links here? Should be easy to find, though.

And yeah, I'm a casual hunter, too. Did all the assignments solo and am currently facing fatalis. So no worries, casual players are certainly not locked out from the fun end game content.

Happy hunting!
[Edit: Typos]

[KingKobra]

Originally posted by DrBonifarz:

Originally posted by KingKobra:

Wow ok. I did know that there was a gap but not between skills. Does that mean that the jewels I got while in HR and useless now?

With gap I just mean that even the earliest MR equipment generally offers better stats and more skills overall than HR equipment. So it does help to get a MR set, even if it is some wild mix of different parts :)

And no, your decorations of size 1-3 are definitely not useless.

For translating skill names, I recommend kiranico's mhworld database, a nice website with all the relevant info and a language switch. Are we allowed to post external links here? Should be easy to find, though.

And yeah, I'm a casual hunter, too. Did all the assignments solo and am currently facing fatalis. So no worries, casual players are certainly not locked out from the fun end game content.

Happy hunting!
[Edit: Typos]

Thanks alot! I'll check the site out.