Special Assignment Alatreon

[YoloPipe]

I know this topic must've been mentioned million times but all the people I've helped recently had no idea what is going on with that special quest. For that specific special assignment : Take out your ice weapons and try to build a reasonable set please, unless you want an automatic loss(I'm not exaggerating). He starts with fire active in this quest, the transformation as following-Fire->Dragon->ice->dragon->fire. Our goal is to break the horn during dragon form (alatreon will be tripping if you deal enough ice damage and then transform to dragon.) So he's not gonna be able to xform to ice.

Please don't treat this dragon with your ironwall LS/bow builds. If you don't have kjarr weapons, at least you could farm for some legiana/frostfang barioth weapons and build some reasonable sets. That doesnt require any fancy decorations, just need some upgrades and thats it. No one could help you if you got 1 shot and cart 3 times.

Feel free to leave some general advice for those who just started the game (I'm considering mr 30-90s are still new to the game)
We are all playing this for fun right?

[Kawalorn]

Also Velkhana is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Ice weapon. Don't use Velkhana.

[Fingeris]

broke her horn, players faint during ultimate crap anyway

can't get no fun from unavoidable damage, neither expecting it is a default mechanic

[Popcorn]

Originally posted by Fingeris:

broke her horn, players faint during ultimate crap anyway

can't get no fun from unavoidable damage, neither expecting it is a default mechanic

Uh, that's why you use the opposing element to kill it and break its horn or just go solo and dps yourself through, just carting through the novas.

Also, don't sos, make a group, whether it be discord, steam forums, or other gaming forums

[mewlynx]

Originally posted by Fingeris:

broke her horn, players faint during ultimate crap anyway

can't get no fun from unavoidable damage, neither expecting it is a default mechanic

Slot in one point of widerange and you can keep everyone alive with astera jerky. It sucks to have to babysit for the team, but you have to use them yourself, anyways.

[cruste]

classic useless post
there are already dozen of guides and tutorials available for this specific fight, randos simply don't care about or it is their first encounter.

premade team is the key to success.

[YoloPipe]

Originally posted by cruste:

classic useless post
there are already dozen of guides and tutorials available for this specific fight, randos simply don't care about or it is their first encounter.

premade team is the key to success.

Consider this as a drop in the ocean, if it helps someone-great, if it doesn't-at least I got it out of my chest after so many failed runs.

[baraboolka]

The main problem with Alatreon is that he was created initially imbalanced to please 2% of players who are easy to play. I can even imagine how it was:

Developers: what do you want?
Koreans: it's easy for us to play, we want a challenge.
Developers: are you sure?
The rest of the players: if we refuse, then everyone will decide that we are cowards - yes, yes, we want a challenge.
Developers: OK, here's the imbalanced ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

Alatreon breaks all the mechanics of the game. Before, we could pass any monster in any build, even Rajang. The fight with Alatreon forces us to use the best builds and weapons. That is, it is no longer a "git-gut" problem, but a "get into events" problem. Of course, there are players who will say "Alatreon can be played with any weapon." Unfortunately, all players with level 5 defender hammers will be disappointed, their chances are much less. This is not just bad, but terribly bad, because in order to get the best gear, you need:

-Receive kjarr weapons from H-Kulvе. This event is not always available. By the way, I have been trying to get ice and fire dual blades from Kulve for a year and a half. I never got it.
-Upgrade this weapon with chunks from M-Kulve. Yes, this event is also seasonal.
-Get Safi's set. Yes, it is also seasonal.

It's all? No, not all.

-Farm the necessary stones in the Guiding Lands. Random again.

That's it? No, not all.

-Now you need to get the necklaces, and for this you need to upgrade the corresponding regions to the fifth+ level.

Is that all now? No, not all.

-Now, if you need a heal, you need to get resources from special monsters, and this is already the seventh levels of regions.

Is that all for sure now? Yes.
And these years of farming will guarantee me a victory? No, they only guarantee that you will survive the first five minutes of the fight.

And this was done not in order to motivate the players, but in order to artificially delay the passage of end-content. In fact, it's hard to imagine the worst way. And all just to please 2% of the players who had to be smacked in the mouth at the very beginning.

[Faust Wither]

want to have high change of success? don't play with random, post your game session in community, but don't expect we fully carry you through quest and listen to advice would be a plus, i really like someone that follow my advice.

[The High Seraph]

Originally posted by baraboolka:

The main problem with Alatreon is that he was created initially imbalanced to please 2% of players who are easy to play. I can even imagine how it was:

Developers: what do you want?
Koreans: it's easy for us to play, we want a challenge.
Developers: are you sure?
The rest of the players: if we refuse, then everyone will decide that we are cowards - yes, yes, we want a challenge.
Developers: OK, here's the imbalanced ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

Alatreon breaks all the mechanics of the game. Before, we could pass any monster in any build, even Rajang. The fight with Alatreon forces us to use the best builds and weapons. That is, it is no longer a "git-gut" problem, but a "get into events" problem. Of course, there are players who will say "Alatreon can be played with any weapon." Unfortunately, all players with level 5 defender hammers will be disappointed, their chances are much less. This is not just bad, but terribly bad, because in order to get the best gear, you need:

-Receive kjarr weapons from H-Kulvе. This event is not always available. By the way, I have been trying to get ice and fire dual blades from Kulve for a year and a half. I never got it.
-Upgrade this weapon with chunks from M-Kulve. Yes, this event is also seasonal.
-Get Safi's set. Yes, it is also seasonal.

It's all? No, not all.

-Farm the necessary stones in the Guiding Lands. Random again.

That's it? No, not all.

-Now you need to get the necklaces, and for this you need to upgrade the corresponding regions to the fifth+ level.

Is that all now? No, not all.

-Now, if you need a heal, you need to get resources from special monsters, and this is already the seventh levels of regions.

Is that all for sure now? Yes.
And these years of farming will guarantee me a victory? No, they only guarantee that you will survive the first five minutes of the fight.

And this was done not in order to motivate the players, but in order to artificially delay the passage of end-content. In fact, it's hard to imagine the worst way. And all just to please 2% of the players who had to be smacked in the mouth at the very beginning.

Lel .. Sounds like someone need to git gud :3

[Popcorn]

Originally posted by baraboolka:

The main problem with Alatreon is that he was created initially imbalanced to please 2% of players who are easy to play. I can even imagine how it was:

Developers: what do you want?
Koreans: it's easy for us to play, we want a challenge.
Developers: are you sure?
The rest of the players: if we refuse, then everyone will decide that we are cowards - yes, yes, we want a challenge.
Developers: OK, here's the imbalanced ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

Alatreon breaks all the mechanics of the game. Before, we could pass any monster in any build, even Rajang. The fight with Alatreon forces us to use the best builds and weapons. That is, it is no longer a "git-gut" problem, but a "get into events" problem. Of course, there are players who will say "Alatreon can be played with any weapon." Unfortunately, all players with level 5 defender hammers will be disappointed, their chances are much less. This is not just bad, but terribly bad, because in order to get the best gear, you need:

-Receive kjarr weapons from H-Kulvе. This event is not always available. By the way, I have been trying to get ice and fire dual blades from Kulve for a year and a half. I never got it.
-Upgrade this weapon with chunks from M-Kulve. Yes, this event is also seasonal.
-Get Safi's set. Yes, it is also seasonal.

It's all? No, not all.

-Farm the necessary stones in the Guiding Lands. Random again.

That's it? No, not all.

-Now you need to get the necklaces, and for this you need to upgrade the corresponding regions to the fifth+ level.

Is that all now? No, not all.

-Now, if you need a heal, you need to get resources from special monsters, and this is already the seventh levels of regions.

Is that all for sure now? Yes.
And these years of farming will guarantee me a victory? No, they only guarantee that you will survive the first five minutes of the fight.

And this was done not in order to motivate the players, but in order to artificially delay the passage of end-content. In fact, it's hard to imagine the worst way. And all just to please 2% of the players who had to be smacked in the mouth at the very beginning.

You sound as if Alatreon is one of those monsters that was dropped in the middle of development instead of an endgame monster.
Those "requirements" are things that shouldve been done BEFORE attempting to do Alatreon.

Why do you think he's considered "endgame"? LMFAO

Upgrading armor? Yeah, duh.
Augmenting armor? Yeah, highly recommended.
Upgrading your charms? Yeah, why haven't you?

"Artificially delay end game content", bro, wtf are you on?
Wtf does endgame content mean to you?
"Drop us another easy monster so we can complain that the game is easy"?

Ngl, the DPS check sucks, but its there.
The MR requirement is low, but its there.
You underestimating this monster that is considered a black dragon, a lifeform that has the power to destroy the world, is what the problem is, not the monster

Getting some of the best armors? Yeah, but guess what armor I used?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2268648352
Yeah, it uses a Safi part and Kjarr weapon, just use something else instead of those two.
FF barioth is always recommended when KT is not available, and FF is always available now, so whats your excuse?
Surviving 5min before death? Someone needs to learn the monster before complaining

Just letting you know that armor set? It's for decoration slots, thats all I did

[JamesFace]

Originally posted by Fingeris:

broke her horn, players faint during ultimate crap anyway

can't get no fun from unavoidable damage, neither expecting it is a default mechanic

breaking the horns doesn't weaken the nova btw - that just stops him swapping elements after the nova.

You have to hit the elemental threshold, which will have a stagger animation and im pretty sure a chat callout from the handler. And even when the nova is weakened you still have to heal when it happens, bring a health booster and chug a potion or bring some astera jerkey.

[cruste]

Originally posted by baraboolka:

The main problem with Alatreon is that he was created initially imbalanced to please 2% of players who are easy to play. I can even imagine how it was:

Developers: what do you want?
Koreans: it's easy for us to play, we want a challenge.
Developers: are you sure?
The rest of the players: if we refuse, then everyone will decide that we are cowards - yes, yes, we want a challenge.
Developers: OK, here's the imbalanced ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

Alatreon breaks all the mechanics of the game. Before, we could pass any monster in any build, even Rajang. The fight with Alatreon forces us to use the best builds and weapons. That is, it is no longer a "git-gut" problem, but a "get into events" problem. Of course, there are players who will say "Alatreon can be played with any weapon." Unfortunately, all players with level 5 defender hammers will be disappointed, their chances are much less. This is not just bad, but terribly bad, because in order to get the best gear, you need:

-Receive kjarr weapons from H-Kulvе. This event is not always available. By the way, I have been trying to get ice and fire dual blades from Kulve for a year and a half. I never got it.
-Upgrade this weapon with chunks from M-Kulve. Yes, this event is also seasonal.
-Get Safi's set. Yes, it is also seasonal.

It's all? No, not all.

-Farm the necessary stones in the Guiding Lands. Random again.

That's it? No, not all.

-Now you need to get the necklaces, and for this you need to upgrade the corresponding regions to the fifth+ level.

Is that all now? No, not all.

-Now, if you need a heal, you need to get resources from special monsters, and this is already the seventh levels of regions.

Is that all for sure now? Yes.
And these years of farming will guarantee me a victory? No, they only guarantee that you will survive the first five minutes of the fight.

And this was done not in order to motivate the players, but in order to artificially delay the passage of end-content. In fact, it's hard to imagine the worst way. And all just to please 2% of the players who had to be smacked in the mouth at the very beginning.

what a nonsense?
There were two monsters released with alatreon dlc

easier frostfang barioth and alatreon, so both sides were pleased
capcom added an easy monster for the filthy casuals and alatreon, for those who seek the challenge.

the usual supects already complainted, that the alatreon fight was too easy at day one, while they already managed to beat him with all kind of different sets.

sticky worked while simply carting through the judgements in solo mode.
the hbg guys used their pierce3 guns and obliterated the poor world destroyer in less than 5min

people tested all kind of builds and found many working stuff.
velkhana weapon+ teo/ raging brachy armor worked
could also craft beo hatchets, a r10 dual blade, which only need temp ordo parts from grinding land region lvl 5 for health augment.

you will have a lot of trouble while trying to beat him with randos, same as behemoth, ancient leshen in basegame or fatalis.

people already killed him by only using their kinsect

no need for kulve weapons or safi armor, while safi armor is a noobkiller through its unique mechanic.

sry if you rushed through the story und wants to rush through the lategame content, but lacks the skill

[K]

Most people complain how hard alatreon/fatalis/*insert monster* is because they are simply not ready for it. Alatreon and Fatalis should have never been an MR24 monster. It should be unlocked at MR100+ for alatreon and MR200+ for fatalis. Like any other difficult monsters in this game, unless you are an elite, you can't pass it if you don't have the "right" gear for it.

These people complain because they are just lazy and refuse to put in the work needed in order to succeed. This

[Popcorn]

Originally posted by cruste:

Originally posted by baraboolka:

The main problem with Alatreon is that he was created initially imbalanced to please 2% of players who are easy to play. I can even imagine how it was:

Developers: what do you want?
Koreans: it's easy for us to play, we want a challenge.
Developers: are you sure?
The rest of the players: if we refuse, then everyone will decide that we are cowards - yes, yes, we want a challenge.
Developers: OK, here's the imbalanced ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

Alatreon breaks all the mechanics of the game. Before, we could pass any monster in any build, even Rajang. The fight with Alatreon forces us to use the best builds and weapons. That is, it is no longer a "git-gut" problem, but a "get into events" problem. Of course, there are players who will say "Alatreon can be played with any weapon." Unfortunately, all players with level 5 defender hammers will be disappointed, their chances are much less. This is not just bad, but terribly bad, because in order to get the best gear, you need:

-Receive kjarr weapons from H-Kulvе. This event is not always available. By the way, I have been trying to get ice and fire dual blades from Kulve for a year and a half. I never got it.
-Upgrade this weapon with chunks from M-Kulve. Yes, this event is also seasonal.
-Get Safi's set. Yes, it is also seasonal.

It's all? No, not all.

-Farm the necessary stones in the Guiding Lands. Random again.

That's it? No, not all.

-Now you need to get the necklaces, and for this you need to upgrade the corresponding regions to the fifth+ level.

Is that all now? No, not all.

-Now, if you need a heal, you need to get resources from special monsters, and this is already the seventh levels of regions.

Is that all for sure now? Yes.
And these years of farming will guarantee me a victory? No, they only guarantee that you will survive the first five minutes of the fight.

And this was done not in order to motivate the players, but in order to artificially delay the passage of end-content. In fact, it's hard to imagine the worst way. And all just to please 2% of the players who had to be smacked in the mouth at the very beginning.

what a nonsense?
There were two monsters released with alatreon dlc

easier frostfang barioth and alatreon, so both sides were pleased
capcom added an easy monster for the filthy casuals and alatreon, for those who seek the challenge.

the usual supects already complainted, that the alatreon fight was too easy at day one, while they already managed to beat him with all kind of different sets.

sticky worked while simply carting through the judgements in solo mode.
the hbg guys used their pierce3 guns and obliterated the poor world destroyer in less than 5min

people tested all kind of builds and found many working stuff.
velkhana weapon+ teo/ raging brachy armor worked
could also craft beo hatchets, a r10 dual blade, which only need temp ordo parts from grinding land region lvl 5 for health augment.

you will have a lot of trouble while trying to beat him with randos, same as behemoth, ancient leshen in basegame or fatalis.

people already killed him by only using their kinsect

no need for kulve weapons or safi armor, while safi armor is a noobkiller through its unique mechanic.

sry if you rushed through the story und wants to rush through the lategame content, but lacks the skill

Well, it IS called endgame, and if you haven't beaten ruiner nergigante, well...

[jack]

use the hunting horn. Its long reach and spinning stationary move is actually extremely good against this beast. It is one of the best weapons for breaking alatreon head. Cram 3 destroyer decos and u can break both his horns with ease. All u need to do is to learn its moveset, learn where his head is. Find a doot doot with reasonably high ele and has good buff songs and u can dealwith this beast with ease. If a hh user can do it, why can't u? If u cannot handle this dude, how can u stand against the menace called fatalis? As a guy who solo killed fatalis 6 times (he killed me 86 times already) , i can tell u that alatreon is not that hard. It is extremely easy compared to fatalis. Its moveset is readable and has relatively tight hitbox (except that janky hitbox when he skydives into hunters).