Bow's Thousand Dragons

[mewlynx]

Is there ever an instance where this is practical to use? Are there specific slinger ammos that make this worth using?

[Arzog]

Bows use an attack called Dragon's piercer and it does not use any slinger ammo. I think thousand dragons is the minigun attack for the HBG.

That said. Yes, the dragon´s piercer can be used with crit drawn + frostcraft and it is "ok" to break parts and sever tails. The damage is good but it is too risky to use all the time unless you know the monster moveset like the palm of your hand.

EDIT: nvm i got it wrong xD i never use thousand's dragon

[mewlynx]

Originally posted by ArzogSama:

Bows use an attack called Dragon's piercer and it does not use any slinger ammo. I think thousand dragons is the minigun attack for the HBG.

That said. Yes, the dragon´s piercer can be used with crit drawn + frostcraft and it is "ok" to break parts and sever tails. The damage is good but it is too risky to use all the time unless you know the monster moveset like the palm of your hand.

Nah, there's a move you can do when your weapon is out and you aim with your slinger. It's basically a shotgun move that uses all your slinger ammo. It looks cool as heck but the windup is pretty significant and it's hard to find opportunities to use it.

[Velkhana's Summer]

Pierce pods are crack for thousand dragons, just make sure its wounded first. And if i can remember correctly slinger capacity increases the damage pretty substantially especially secret. Make sure you have Spread charm x2 on aswell. The thorn pods are alright but only good against head. Dragon/crystalburst pods can stagger elders when hitting almost any part. Bomb pods/scatternuts are similar to dragon pods but mainly useful on non-elders like rajang or brachy.

Edit: overall i find it more useful than dragon pierce, and i only ever DP when i am going for a tail cut that is weakened or using frostcraft/barioth dp KO spam.

Also i forgot, the staggers in multi allow you to save your team a ton or help them get back fighting after a monster moves. And against all elders you can pop their elder seal like a balloon when combining dragon pods with a high elder seal bow. I haven't seen Teo or Lunastra's nova in forever and you'll make all melee users love you against Kushala.

[Arzog]

Originally posted by maelynx:

Originally posted by ArzogSama:

Bows use an attack called Dragon's piercer and it does not use any slinger ammo. I think thousand dragons is the minigun attack for the HBG.

That said. Yes, the dragon´s piercer can be used with crit drawn + frostcraft and it is "ok" to break parts and sever tails. The damage is good but it is too risky to use all the time unless you know the monster moveset like the palm of your hand.

Nah, there's a move you can do when your weapon is out and you aim with your slinger. It's basically a shotgun move that uses all your slinger ammo. It looks cool as heck but the windup is pretty significant and it's hard to find opportunities to use it.

yeah sry i was thinking about another thing since i never use this attack xD

[cruste]

better use you slinger for wallbangs
pain in the arse to start the combo, often end up by clutching the monster if you don't aim at the ground in the beginning maybe some niche use with para or sleep coating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpSwqiDrmzs

[mewlynx]

Originally posted by cruste:

better use you slinger for wallbangs
pain in the arse to start the combo, often end up by clutching the monster if you don't aim at the ground in the beginning maybe some niche use with para or sleep coating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpSwqiDrmzs

yea, I don't doubt it's better to just wall bang, but it still seems like it could be fun to mess with given it isn't completely useless.

[❤ Atlas Neptune ❤ ◢ ◤]

Hey mel!

Piercing Pods are definitely the answer. Just think of Dragonpiercer but spreads like a shotgun.

Thorn pods to the head counts as an impact/KO. Also stones but not as much as Thorns.

Dragon Pods causes Elderseal just like how dragon pods work in general.

Crystalburst/Bomb like told staggers. Crystalburst also does quite decent amount of damage. Bomb pods on the other hand also does 150-ish damage most of the time.

Scatternuts staggers and acts quite similar to Crystalbursts but less damage.

Also coatings effect the damage. Piercing Pods + Stonethrower skill + Power Coating = Big damage.

When you run out of coating, it's better to use no coating rather than Close-range coating as close-range drastically decreases the range of thousand dragons.

[Polaris]

It's damage is raw based, so good or no, the fatalis bow will do it best, you will also want trueshot level 2 with your spread

I'll have to put together a build, I know you can crit draw/frostcraft dragon piercer, I wonder if you can do the same with thousand dragons?

A most glorious meme :)

[mewlynx]

Originally posted by Polaris:

It's damage is raw based, so good or no, the fatalis bow will do it best, you will also want trueshot level 2 with your spread

I'll have to put together a build, I know you can crit draw/frostcraft dragon piercer, I wonder if you can do the same with thousand dragons?

A most glorious meme :)

This actually sounds hilarious if it works.

[mewlynx]

Originally posted by ❤ Atlas ❤ ◢ ◤:

Hey mel!

Piercing Pods are definitely the answer. Just think of Dragonpiercer but spreads like a shotgun.

Thorn pods to the head counts as an impact/KO. Also stones but not as much as Thorns.

Dragon Pods causes Elderseal just like how dragon pods work in general.

Crystalburst/Bomb like told staggers. Crystalburst also does quite decent amount of damage. Bomb pods on the other hand also does 150-ish damage most of the time.

Scatternuts staggers and acts quite similar to Crystalbursts but less damage.

Also coatings effect the damage. Piercing Pods + Stonethrower skill + Power Coating = Big damage.

When you run out of coating, it's better to use no coating rather than Close-range coating as close-range drastically decreases the range of thousand dragons.

Thanks for the info. I'm probably not going to base my coating choices for the sake of Thousand Dragons, but it's still good to know about the range reduction.

Speaking of coatings, how do status coatings interact with this? Will this just like insta paralyze a monster or does it not apply?

[❤ Atlas Neptune ❤ ◢ ◤]

Originally posted by maelynx:

Originally posted by ❤ Atlas ❤ ◢ ◤:

Hey mel!

Piercing Pods are definitely the answer. Just think of Dragonpiercer but spreads like a shotgun.

Thorn pods to the head counts as an impact/KO. Also stones but not as much as Thorns.

Dragon Pods causes Elderseal just like how dragon pods work in general.

Crystalburst/Bomb like told staggers. Crystalburst also does quite decent amount of damage. Bomb pods on the other hand also does 150-ish damage most of the time.

Scatternuts staggers and acts quite similar to Crystalbursts but less damage.

Also coatings effect the damage. Piercing Pods + Stonethrower skill + Power Coating = Big damage.

When you run out of coating, it's better to use no coating rather than Close-range coating as close-range drastically decreases the range of thousand dragons.

Thanks for the info. I'm probably not going to base my coating choices for the sake of Thousand Dragons, but it's still good to know about the range reduction.

Speaking of coatings, how do status coatings interact with this? Will this just like insta paralyze a monster or does it not apply?

If I am not wrong, piercing pods does apply with coatings. I am not 100% sure about it. I'll have a test later on. Huehue.

[Polaris]

So I'm looking through set building in this monstrosity (I have yet to test anything, so I'm not even sure if I can crit draw this yet, but bear with me)

I have run into a problem, we cannot have frostcraft, slinger capacity secret, and the fatalis bow all at once, so I have to figure out which one to drop

Using my Safi bow with velkhana essence, I can run 3 piece velkhana to get frostcraft, and run 2 fatalis for good slotage as well as slinger capacity secret

I can run fatalis bow, with fatalis armor, and get slinger capacity secret, enough slots for more damage skills, but I'll lose frostcraft

Or fatalis bow, with 4 piece velkhana, but no slinger capacity secret, and likely, not enough slots to get enough damage or comfort...as is the Safi now may be best, but I will test, and will come back with results ;D

[Dagný]

Originally posted by ❤ Atlas ❤ ◢ ◤:

Hey mel!

Piercing Pods are definitely the answer. Just think of Dragonpiercer but spreads like a shotgun.

Thorn pods to the head counts as an impact/KO. Also stones but not as much as Thorns.

Dragon Pods causes Elderseal just like how dragon pods work in general.

Crystalburst/Bomb like told staggers. Crystalburst also does quite decent amount of damage. Bomb pods on the other hand also does 150-ish damage most of the time.

Scatternuts staggers and acts quite similar to Crystalbursts but less damage.

Also coatings effect the damage. Piercing Pods + Stonethrower skill + Power Coating = Big damage.

When you run out of coating, it's better to use no coating rather than Close-range coating as close-range drastically decreases the range of thousand dragons.

Nice info!

[Polaris]

So I have completed my testing :D

First off, it is not possible to use critical draw with thousand dragons, which ended up being the deciding factor, more on this in a moment

The best combination for thousand dragons is to use the fatalis bow, and 4 pieces of his armor to get slinger capacity secret.

When I attempted to build the fatalis bow with frostcraft, there simply wasn't enough skills slots to get to a decent affinity, the build required that I slot in tool specialist on a glider mantle, and run the affinity booster, meaning very poor uptime, on a meme build, and while accepting that I would need the affinity booster, I was able to fit A capacity 3, giving us 4 Pierce pods, the fatalis bow with fatalis armor combo still managed to be almost as much damage, being able to run slinger capacity 5 providing even one extra slinger pod made more of a difference then I thought. Also, the fatalis armor was able to fit in more damaging and affinity skills

weakness exploit became mandatory for all these builds, and only the fatalis bow and armor combo could fit in clutch claw boost.

Using a Safi bow with velkhana essence allowed me to run frostcraft and slinger capacity, but due to lack of slots was reliant on the affinity booster anyway, and the inferior raw on the bow, meant that even during uptime, it's damage was fairly comparable to simply running fatalis bow+fatalis armor.

To round it all of, the fatalis set had room for comfort skills, and true spare shot means our power coatings last longer.

The verdict, fatalis bow with fatalis armor is the most worthy of the thousand dragons meme, at least until arch tempered velkhana ;D

[StarExile]

Sadly, this ability is sh1t, but yeah fun to use.