Charge Blade, beginner, am I in for a bad time?

[Elthrael]

As the title says. I really, really like the Charge Blade and the idea behind it, even though it's pretty complex. I've been hacking away at the old log trying to get better at the combos.

My question is, is the weapon's complexity rewarding when executed properly or is it another case of "mash 15 buttons to get same DPS as one GS hit", like the Engineer in GW2.

[Dagný]

Автор сообщения: Rage

Автор сообщения: Elthrael

So I bought Iceborne and gave pizza-cutter mode a try and I like it. It's more sustained damage versus faffing about waiting for that perfect opening to unleash SAED for big booms.

One question though: should I still be charging my shield before going into Savage Axe mode? Or should I just go straight to Savage axe and skip the shield charge?

Absolutely charge dat shield. Sucks to have to maintain two modes but yah. It's just more efficiency man.

Why? If you want to only use evade savage axe you won't be using the shield to block or saed, so why charge it? Does it increase the savage axe damage?

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Автор сообщения: Dahlia Hawthorne

Автор сообщения: Rage

Absolutely charge dat shield. Sucks to have to maintain two modes but yah. It's just more efficiency man.

Why? If you want to only use evade savage axe you won't be using the shield to block or saed, so why charge it? Does it increase the savage axe damage?

It does increase damage.

[Dagný]

Автор сообщения: Khajite

Автор сообщения: Dahlia Hawthorne

Why? If you want to only use evade savage axe you won't be using the shield to block or saed, so why charge it? Does it increase the savage axe damage?

It does increase damage.

I just tested in the training area and the damage was the same
the marginal difference was probably due to low affinity

I charge the shield because I use the shield, but I've seen some players not doing it

[Rage]

Автор сообщения: Dahlia Hawthorne

Автор сообщения: Khajite

It does increase damage.

I just tested in the training area and the damage was the same
the marginal difference was probably due to low affinity

I charge the shield because I use the shield, but I've seen some players not doing it

It's like 10% more damage if I remember right. If you are using low damage equipment that is gonna be a minimal increase, but when your CB has over 1k raw the increase is pretty significant over time.

[Xilo The Odd]

Автор сообщения: Dahlia Hawthorne

Автор сообщения: Khajite

It does increase damage.

I just tested in the training area and the damage was the same
the marginal difference was probably due to low affinity

I charge the shield because I use the shield, but I've seen some players not doing it

if your playing evasion savage axe, there is no need to charge the blade for two reasons:

1. your SAED kills all your phials if the shield is charged, something savage axe needs to stay up and continue to combo

2. the the normal amped discharge while in savage axe mode does a pretty considerable hit for a combo finisher and its typically worth using when your down to about 2 phials and need to charge more or simply take advantage of your position on a monster, because wherever the axe is touching during an attack, it is hitting.

the charged shield is only useful if you plan to do SAED as part of your rotation and use block counters into it.

[Rage]

Автор сообщения: Xilo The Odd

Автор сообщения: Dahlia Hawthorne

I just tested in the training area and the damage was the same
the marginal difference was probably due to low affinity

I charge the shield because I use the shield, but I've seen some players not doing it

if your playing evasion savage axe, there is no need to charge the blade for two reasons:

1. your SAED kills all your phials if the shield is charged, something savage axe needs to stay up and continue to combo

2. the the normal amped discharge while in savage axe mode does a pretty considerable hit for a combo finisher and its typically worth using when your down to about 2 phials and need to charge more or simply take advantage of your position on a monster, because wherever the axe is touching during an attack, it is hitting.

the charged shield is only useful if you plan to do SAED as part of your rotation and use block counters into it.

Look up any guide for the weapon and they will tell you keeping axe charged is a priority. Your "points" don't even make sense. In your first point you mentioned SAED, but SA doesn't really use SAED. You primarily use ED if you do that at all. Most of the dps in SA comes from the pizza cutter attacks. Vertical followed by spin2win. Play however you want, but this is bad advice, but don't take my word for it. Look up videos by speedrunners or weapon guides by enthusiasts.

[Xilo The Odd]

Автор сообщения: Rage

Автор сообщения: Xilo The Odd

if your playing evasion savage axe, there is no need to charge the blade for two reasons:

1. your SAED kills all your phials if the shield is charged, something savage axe needs to stay up and continue to combo

2. the the normal amped discharge while in savage axe mode does a pretty considerable hit for a combo finisher and its typically worth using when your down to about 2 phials and need to charge more or simply take advantage of your position on a monster, because wherever the axe is touching during an attack, it is hitting.

the charged shield is only useful if you plan to do SAED as part of your rotation and use block counters into it.

Look up any guide for the weapon and they will tell you keeping axe charged is a priority. Your "points" don't even make sense. In your first point you mentioned SAED, but SA doesn't really use SAED. You primarily use ED if you do that at all. Most of the dps in SA comes from the pizza cutter attacks. Vertical followed by spin2win. Play however you want, but this is bad advice, but don't take my word for it. Look up videos by speedrunners or weapon guides by enthusiasts.

ok so. my points aren't valid? lemme simplify them.

you dont SAED because it ENDS SAVAGE AXE AND YOU MUST RECHARGE IT AGAIN. so having your shield charged is dumb, pointless, and counter productive.

the normal amped discharge does good damage again, as a combo finisher before you go back to recharging your phials, still maintaining axe mode so you dont need to go into the backswing every single time you want to use axe mode with savage axe.

any second spent reactivating savage axe is damage lost since you are back hacking away from your target most often. its better to get your phials back up, go back into axe mode with a big overhead swing, then spin to win.

learn to read.

[𝓇𝒾𝓃𝒶𝒶𝒶𝒶𝒶]

The shield needs to be charged to do more damage, this not optional like charging the sword.
Also avoid using circle or B as it uses phials, just spam triangle or y for xbox.

Once again CB is in a tragic state because the devs don't have single clue on how to balance it.
We went from god tier to meme tier, it's so freaking sad.

[Rage]

Dude, charging your shield isn't JUST for SAED?! It literally gives you 10% more damage on ALL axe attacks (which are your primary damage in SA mode). I don't understand how you arrived at the conclusion shield charge is only good for SAED.

[Xilo The Odd]

Автор сообщения: Rage

Dude, charging your shield isn't JUST for SAED?! It literally gives you 10% more damage on ALL axe attacks (which are your primary damage in SA mode). I don't understand how you arrived at the conclusion shield charge is only good for SAED.

10% of what though? base raw? bonus raw? odds are its not worth worrying about even if this is the case.

Автор сообщения: ✩Mᵉᵉᴋᴀʜ =♥=

The shield needs to be charged to do more damage, this not optional like charging the sword.
Also avoid using circle or B as it uses phials, just spam triangle or y for xbox.

Once again CB is in a tragic state because the devs don't have single clue on how to balance it.
We went from god tier to meme tier, it's so freaking sad.

the only change they made i wish they'd reverse, is failed SAED attacks eat all your phials and deal 0 phial damage, they literally had no real logical reason to do that. it should be if phial attack happens, phials are consumed, if phial attack is stopped, phials are retained.

[Popcorn]

Автор сообщения: ✩Mᵉᵉᴋᴀʜ =♥=

The shield needs to be charged to do more damage, this not optional like charging the sword.
Also avoid using circle or B as it uses phials, just spam triangle or y for xbox.

Once again CB is in a tragic state because the devs don't have single clue on how to balance it.
We went from god tier to meme tier, it's so freaking sad.

Only recommended in solo tho, don't want to send your team mates into the Jaws of death...autocorrect auto capitalized Jaws...and again

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Автор сообщения: Xilo The Odd

Автор сообщения: ✩Mᵉᵉᴋᴀʜ =♥=

The shield needs to be charged to do more damage, this not optional like charging the sword.
Also avoid using circle or B as it uses phials, just spam triangle or y for xbox.

Once again CB is in a tragic state because the devs don't have single clue on how to balance it.
We went from god tier to meme tier, it's so freaking sad.

the only change they made i wish they'd reverse, is failed SAED attacks eat all your phials and deal 0 phial damage, they literally had no real logical reason to do that. it should be if phial attack happens, phials are consumed, if phial attack is stopped, phials are retained.

Yup, I have no idea why your phials banish after they had already nerfed SAED.
I wished we didn't have such ridiculous animations and the long recovery times, if you go for simple ED most monsters will punish, AED will leave you wide open to eat dirt...

Автор сообщения: Popcorn

Only recommended in solo tho, don't want to send your team mates into the Jaws of death...autocorrect auto capitalized Jaws...and again

Agreed, pizza mode is not multiplayer friendly and most people will hate you for using it.

[Xilo The Odd]

Автор сообщения: ✩Mᵉᵉᴋᴀʜ =♥=

Автор сообщения: Xilo The Odd

the only change they made i wish they'd reverse, is failed SAED attacks eat all your phials and deal 0 phial damage, they literally had no real logical reason to do that. it should be if phial attack happens, phials are consumed, if phial attack is stopped, phials are retained.

Yup, I have no idea why your phials banish after they had already nerfed SAED.
I wished we didn't have such ridiculous animations and the long recovery times, if you go for simple ED most monsters will punish, AED will leave you wide open to eat dirt...

Автор сообщения: Popcorn

Only recommended in solo tho, don't want to send your team mates into the Jaws of death...autocorrect auto capitalized Jaws...and again

Agreed, pizza mode is not multiplayer friendly and most people will hate you for using it.

savage is still doable in multi, but your gonna have to really pay attention and not do the vertical upward slice.

unless your in a group of 3 dual bladers and everyone is at the head. then they can all beyblade down the monsters back for the hillarity. ooo, or GS for that matter.

[Popcorn]

Автор сообщения: Xilo The Odd

Автор сообщения: ✩Mᵉᵉᴋᴀʜ =♥=

Yup, I have no idea why your phials banish after they had already nerfed SAED.
I wished we didn't have such ridiculous animations and the long recovery times, if you go for simple ED most monsters will punish, AED will leave you wide open to eat dirt...



Agreed, pizza mode is not multiplayer friendly and most people will hate you for using it.

savage is still doable in multi, but your gonna have to really pay attention and not do the vertical upward slice.

unless your in a group of 3 dual bladers and everyone is at the head. then they can all beyblade down the monsters back for the hillarity. ooo, or GS for that matter.

Yeah, was going to say that, but got lazy =P

[Xilo The Odd]

Автор сообщения: Popcorn

Автор сообщения: Xilo The Odd

savage is still doable in multi, but your gonna have to really pay attention and not do the vertical upward slice.

unless your in a group of 3 dual bladers and everyone is at the head. then they can all beyblade down the monsters back for the hillarity. ooo, or GS for that matter.

Yeah, was going to say that, but got lazy =P

it is pretty easy to let that attack slip when your not paying attention though.