Charge Blade, beginner, am I in for a bad time?

[Elthrael]

As the title says. I really, really like the Charge Blade and the idea behind it, even though it's pretty complex. I've been hacking away at the old log trying to get better at the combos.

My question is, is the weapon's complexity rewarding when executed properly or is it another case of "mash 15 buttons to get same DPS as one GS hit", like the Engineer in GW2.

[Xilo The Odd]

引用自 Talinthis：

引用自 Elthrael：

I'm assuming there are skills down the line that make charging faster?

Yeah focus is the skill and it is very good

honestly, Focus in the long term once you understand all the combos to generate the most phial charge, is not really a useful skill. its a GREAT comfy skill while your learning though.

but the skills to focus on the most are:

Guard, Capacity (for an extra phial), applicable damage skill be it elemental or Artillery for impact, Guard up if the fight requires it, and crit and raw boosting skills beyond that.

theres also running evasion and evade distance, which can be a lot of fun as well. why block when you can DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODGE!

引用自 Sᴡᴇᴇᴛ Tᴇᴀ：

Charge blade is dead post iceborne, SAED will not get you very far as monster are super fast, have short animations, while you have long animations with even longer recovery animations.

If you still want to play what remains of a once great weapon learn how to use savage axe so you can move into evade savage axe only. SAED is dead, don't use it.

SAED is certainly not dead, but its not something you'll be spamming to win no more. after a wall bang, a trip, a flinch, or as a block counter reaction. dumping SAED on kulve with an ice CB... so much glorious damage. you could wiff with the axe hits and still pull 1.5k damage between 6 phials.

[rina]

引用自 Xilo The Odd：

引用自 Sᴡᴇᴇᴛ Tᴇᴀ：

Charge blade is dead post iceborne, SAED will not get you very far as monster are super fast, have short animations, while you have long animations with even longer recovery animations.

If you still want to play what remains of a once great weapon learn how to use savage axe so you can move into evade savage axe only. SAED is dead, don't use it.

SAED is certainly not dead, but its not something you'll be spamming to win no more. after a wall bang, a trip, a flinch, or as a block counter reaction. dumping SAED on kulve with an ice CB... so much glorious damage. you could wiff with the axe hits and still pull 1.5k damage between 6 phials.

Nope, SAED is been pretty much dead since iceborne was released and it completely died when evade savage axe was born after the Fatalis update.
You'll do more damage by keeping those phials and maintain savage axe up.

[Xilo The Odd]

引用自 Sᴡᴇᴇᴛ Tᴇᴀ：

引用自 Xilo The Odd：

SAED is certainly not dead, but its not something you'll be spamming to win no more. after a wall bang, a trip, a flinch, or as a block counter reaction. dumping SAED on kulve with an ice CB... so much glorious damage. you could wiff with the axe hits and still pull 1.5k damage between 6 phials.

Nope, SAED is been pretty much dead since iceborne was released and it completely died when evade savage axe was born after the Fatalis update.
You'll do more damage by keeping those phials and maintain savage axe up.

whatever you say, i only ever play CB as my melee weapon so its not like i'd know anything about it...

[rina]

引用自 Xilo The Odd：

引用自 Sᴡᴇᴇᴛ Tᴇᴀ：

Nope, SAED is been pretty much dead since iceborne was released and it completely died when evade savage axe was born after the Fatalis update.
You'll do more damage by keeping those phials and maintain savage axe up.

whatever you say, i only ever play CB as my melee weapon so its not like i'd know anything about it...

3300~ hunts with CB.
SAED simply doesn't match evade savage axe, the nerf was too harsh.

[Elthrael]

引用自 Sᴡᴇᴇᴛ Tᴇᴀ：

引用自 Xilo The Odd：

whatever you say, i only ever play CB as my melee weapon so its not like i'd know anything about it...

3300~ hunts with CB.
SAED simply doesn't match evade savage axe, the nerf was too harsh.

I don't even own Iceborne and I have just started playing the game, so I think I'll be having fun up till then regardless. At that point I'll probably find better combos and tactics anyway.

Could you explain what "Savage Axe" is? Do I understand correctly that it's a DLC-only attack for the CB?

[cua_bien02]

引用自 Elthrael：

引用自 Sᴡᴇᴇᴛ Tᴇᴀ：

3300~ hunts with CB.
SAED simply doesn't match evade savage axe, the nerf was too harsh.

I don't even own Iceborne and I have just started playing the game, so I think I'll be having fun up till then regardless. At that point I'll probably find better combos and tactics anyway.

Could you explain what "Savage Axe" is? Do I understand correctly that it's a DLC-only attack for the CB?

Yes, it's Iceborne-added movesets for CB.

[Hammer Of Evil]

引用自 Elthrael：

引用自 Sᴡᴇᴇᴛ Tᴇᴀ：

3300~ hunts with CB.
SAED simply doesn't match evade savage axe, the nerf was too harsh.

I don't even own Iceborne and I have just started playing the game, so I think I'll be having fun up till then regardless. At that point I'll probably find better combos and tactics anyway.

Could you explain what "Savage Axe" is? Do I understand correctly that it's a DLC-only attack for the CB?

yes. ib only

its like SAED except you press a different button at the third move in the combo, and it morphs to spinny axe mode of hatred, that can be recharged on the fly, never bounces, and each hit is really hurty on the monster.

and with the fatalis armor, its extra thiccc.

[rina]

引用自 Elthrael：

引用自 Sᴡᴇᴇᴛ Tᴇᴀ：

3300~ hunts with CB.
SAED simply doesn't match evade savage axe, the nerf was too harsh.

I don't even own Iceborne and I have just started playing the game, so I think I'll be having fun up till then regardless. At that point I'll probably find better combos and tactics anyway.

Could you explain what "Savage Axe" is? Do I understand correctly that it's a DLC-only attack for the CB?

If I remember correctly the CB nerf applies even if you don't own iceborne, SAED (the big explosions) should still be viable against pre iceborne monsters.

Savage axe is when you go into axe mode and the shield starts spinning like a pizza cutter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1r2AAJCkdY
Something like this.

[Xilo The Odd]

引用自 Sᴡᴇᴇᴛ Tᴇᴀ：

引用自 Elthrael：

I don't even own Iceborne and I have just started playing the game, so I think I'll be having fun up till then regardless. At that point I'll probably find better combos and tactics anyway.

Could you explain what "Savage Axe" is? Do I understand correctly that it's a DLC-only attack for the CB?

If I remember correctly the CB nerf applies even if you don't own iceborne, SAED (the big explosions) should still be viable against pre iceborne monsters.

Savage axe is when you go into axe mode and the shield starts spinning like a pizza cutter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1r2AAJCkdY
Something like this.

i miss the pizza shield CB...

[cruste]

charge blade playstyle changed alot through release of iceborne, now it is literally just charge and go asap into savage axe mode for max deeps and enjoy the rage of your teammate while you abusing them as tennisballs during your combos.

[Ragosta tin Dei]

It is a weapon unkind to neophytes. It requires a fair amount of rare decorations to function and be effective, as well as intimate knowledge of the moveset.

[Rage]

It's great man. Savage Axe mode is enjoyable, and while it sucks they nerfed SAED I played it throughout the base game and was happy to see a change. Usually top damage in my hunts, except for the odd badass. Bit complicated to maintain and relies pretty heavily on getting that burst ready but hell ya. It's my favorite weapon in the game for versatility and swinging hard.

[Popcorn]

引用自 Ragosta tin Dei：

It is a weapon unkind to neophytes. It requires a fair amount of rare decorations to function and be effective, as well as intimate knowledge of the moveset.

What rare decos are you talking about?

[Elthrael]

So I bought Iceborne and gave pizza-cutter mode a try and I like it. It's more sustained damage versus faffing about waiting for that perfect opening to unleash SAED for big booms.

One question though: should I still be charging my shield before going into Savage Axe mode? Or should I just go straight to Savage axe and skip the shield charge?

[Rage]

引用自 Elthrael：

So I bought Iceborne and gave pizza-cutter mode a try and I like it. It's more sustained damage versus faffing about waiting for that perfect opening to unleash SAED for big booms.

One question though: should I still be charging my shield before going into Savage Axe mode? Or should I just go straight to Savage axe and skip the shield charge?

Absolutely charge dat shield. Sucks to have to maintain two modes but yah. It's just more efficiency man.