Anyone wanna carry me through fatalis?

[Guizin]

At least as far as getting both horns to break, I need fatalis eye.

[Maffeketel]

If you need eyes then doing him solo is a lot more efficient and faster.

Take heavy artilerry 2 and partbreaker 3 and you'll be able to break the head pretty easily.
You can also opt to use the SA and make a ZSD spam build with tool specialist 5. This build is very easy to use in spite of the high difficulty of the SA. You'll need the rocksteady mantle and the temporal mantle and I recommend using the ghillie mantle to skip the majority of the first phase.
Don't forget to hit the head when he does the cone breath attack without using ZSD as the ZSD doesn't have very high partbreak damage.

With this method you can kill him very quickly and it basically guarantees an eye.
I highly recommend trying him solo as you'll learn a lot more. Otherwise someone else is basically doing the fight for you and youre essentially dead weight. It makes the fight significantly harder as Fatalis health is higher when attempting the fight with a duo.
I love to help out others, but carrying isn't exactly a popular word in this community.
Everyone needs to pull their weight if a hunt is to be succesful.

Fatalis is one of the best learning experiences in Monster Hunter World and the fight is the ultimate challenge. Overcoming it basically means that you have conquered everything that Monster Hunter World has to offer. His gear is a fitting reward for slaying the black dragon of legend. I would strongly urge you not to rob yourself of this experience as you'll learn so much from it.
Everyone can beat him with enough practice and experience, it will definetly take a few tries but every player is capable of defeating him solo.

If you need more in depth information on how to solo him then I'd be happy to help! I can also give you a ZSD spam build should you need it.
Good luck!

[RopeDrink]

Guizin is the "Professional Homeless" of the forums, leeching off others to do the work for him with no signs of ever attempting self-improvement.

Judging by the response he's given, that seems to be the case.

I just want someone to help me, that's it. If your advice is 'do it solo', then you might as well save it .

It's quicker to do it that way (and relies on one person rather than multiple), but hey, if you're happy to always be stuck requesting help whenever a marginal challenge appears, you do you I guess.

[Zelph]

While OP does need to get good, I think people here are sorely underestimating how bad the average player is, and how hard fatalis is.

[Guizin]

Originally posted by RopeDrink:

Guizin is the "Professional Homeless" of the forums, leeching off others to do the work for him with no signs of ever attempting self-improvement.

Judging by the response he's given, that seems to be the case.

I just want someone to help me, that's it. If your advice is 'do it solo', then you might as well save it .

It's quicker to do it that way (and relies on one person rather than multiple), but hey, if you're happy to always be stuck requesting help whenever a marginal challenge appears, you do you I guess.

I already told you, I get the heebie jeebies when I fight alone

[2z2z]

Originally posted by Guizin:

Originally posted by RopeDrink:

Judging by the response he's given, that seems to be the case.



It's quicker to do it that way (and relies on one person rather than multiple), but hey, if you're happy to always be stuck requesting help whenever a marginal challenge appears, you do you I guess.

I already told you, I get the heebie jeebies when I fight alone

i saw your profile and you have 1,7k hours on monster hunter and yet you still need people to help you? this really is a bait

close this disscussion

[Guizin]

Originally posted by Vexcro:

Originally posted by Guizin:

I already told you, I get the heebie jeebies when I fight alone

i saw your profile and you have 1,7k hours on monster hunter and yet you still need people to help you? this really is a bait

close this disscussion

Most of those were on the base game. I've spent about 400 hours on Iceborne and the some of the monsters still give me a hard time. Fatalis specially. I said this already, I reached my skill ceiling. I'm as proficient in this game with the SnS as I could possibly be. Not everyone gets to be a speedrunner.

[Deffy]

Originally posted by Guizin:

Originally posted by Vexcro:

i saw your profile and you have 1,7k hours on monster hunter and yet you still need people to help you? this really is a bait

close this disscussion

Most of those were on the base game. I've spent about 400 hours on Iceborne and the some of the monsters still give me a hard time. Fatalis specially. I said this already, I reached my skill ceiling. I'm as proficient in this game with the SnS as I could possibly be. Not everyone gets to be a speedrunner.

Your comment resonates with me. I few weeks back, I saw someone beat fatalis in 8 minutes with the dual blades. I've been maining dual blades for thousands of hours, they are my baby. Been playing with them since 3u on the wiiu, yet my absolute best time is 11'58. That run was absolutely perfect. Everything went just right, and I couldn't possibly do better than that even if I played 20 more years. well, perhaps I could shave off 30 more seconds or so, or, let's be wild, a minute, at the very most, but I reached my skill celling a very long time ago with that weapon and there is nothing I can do to improve more, absolutely nothing.

[Maffeketel]

Originally posted by Guizin:

Originally posted by Vexcro:

i saw your profile and you have 1,7k hours on monster hunter and yet you still need people to help you? this really is a bait

close this disscussion

Most of those were on the base game. I've spent about 400 hours on Iceborne and the some of the monsters still give me a hard time. Fatalis specially. I said this already, I reached my skill ceiling. I'm as proficient in this game with the SnS as I could possibly be. Not everyone gets to be a speedrunner.

You don't need to be a speedrunner to be able to defeat Alatreon and Fatalis. My clear times are nowhere near those of speedrunners and I can solo these fights without too much trouble now.

Don't be afraid to try these fights solo! Youre never done learning and there's always room for improvement. It is far more beneficial to do this fight solo as you'll need a lot of eyes and most players tend to dislike carrying others. I would strongly urge you to at least try.

I'd be happy to give you a build or describe how to dodge certain moves. Fatalis is the ultimate endgame challenge so it will definetly take a while before you defeat him for the first time. It took me about 30 tries and now I can defeat him on basically every attempt. It just comes down to practicing and learning from every failed attempt.

[Tregrenos]

Originally posted by Maffeketel:

Don't be afraid to try these fights solo! Youre never done learning and there's always room for improvement. It is far more beneficial to do this fight solo as you'll need a lot of eyes and most players tend to dislike carrying others. I would strongly urge you to at least try.

This feeling is compounded by Fatalis being the final boss and is something nobody should be "carried" through. Again, well beyond the bargaining phase. As the OP has stated multiple times, they don't want your help, just your time. They don't want to "get gud" and feel getting others to do the work for them is rewarding enough for some twisted reason. I'm more embarrassed of the "Chad Wannabes" so desperate for recognition and looking to get their e-peen hard they agree to carry this worthless scrub.

[Maffeketel]

Originally posted by Tregrenos:

Originally posted by Maffeketel:

Don't be afraid to try these fights solo! Youre never done learning and there's always room for improvement. It is far more beneficial to do this fight solo as you'll need a lot of eyes and most players tend to dislike carrying others. I would strongly urge you to at least try.

This feeling is compounded by Fatalis being the final boss and is something nobody should be "carried" through. As I said before though ,well beyond the bargaining phase. As the OP has stated multiple times, they don't want your help, just your time. They don't want to "get gud" and feel getting others to do the work for them is rewarding enough for some twisted reason. I'm more embarrassed of the "Chad Wannabes" looking to get their e-peen hard and agree to carry this worthless scrub.

I always encourage players to defeat every monster solo at least once. It negates the point if someone else joins you and then defeats a monster with increased hp, while you sit in a corner drinking mega potions. You haven't actually defeated that monster if you do it this way.
Fatalis and Alatreon for example should be done solo at least once in my opinion. The same goes for AT elders.
This might sound a tad elitist, but I do feel that this is how it's meant to be done especially due to the fact that the game accomodates solo players.

I always love to help people out, but I do expect them to pull their weight a little bit. I absolutely dislike carrying. A bit of advice can go a long way if someone is struggling.

I did join a random once who was definetly getting carried.
Me and a Lance user basically carried the entire Fatalis fight for him and it took a long time too, as he basically ran away the entire time while using wide range to spam potions on himself.
The Fatalis had increased health and he rarely if ever attempted to do damage to him. Me and the Lance user basically fought a 4 player Fatalis with just the 2 of us.
It takes away the fun for me, but I really needed the materials and I don't want to disconnect and let the Lance user down simply because I don't want to carry someone.

There's 2 sides every coin as I still want to help people, but I also really dislike carrying them.
Giving advice always helps and once I notice that they at least have the core principles of the fight down then I'm always happy to help them out. This is how I helped my friends with Alatreon and Fatalis.

[mewlynx]

Originally posted by Tregrenos:

Originally posted by Maffeketel:

Don't be afraid to try these fights solo! Youre never done learning and there's always room for improvement. It is far more beneficial to do this fight solo as you'll need a lot of eyes and most players tend to dislike carrying others. I would strongly urge you to at least try.

This feeling is compounded by Fatalis being the final boss and is something nobody should be "carried" through. Again, well beyond the bargaining phase. As the OP has stated multiple times, they don't want your help, just your time. They don't want to "get gud" and feel getting others to do the work for them is rewarding enough for some twisted reason. I'm more embarrassed of the "Chad Wannabes" so desperate for recognition and looking to get their e-peen hard they agree to carry this worthless scrub.

I helped OP and they did okay. They were using SnS and basically had zero hope of breaking the head by themselves given the nature of the weapon, so they just wanted help getting some eyes. I guess they didn't know any other weapons, but my point is that you seriously need to stop assuming the worst out of people and get off your high horse. OP contributed to the fight and seemed competent, which is good enough imo.

[Maffeketel]

Originally posted by maelynx:

Originally posted by Tregrenos:

This feeling is compounded by Fatalis being the final boss and is something nobody should be "carried" through. Again, well beyond the bargaining phase. As the OP has stated multiple times, they don't want your help, just your time. They don't want to "get gud" and feel getting others to do the work for them is rewarding enough for some twisted reason. I'm more embarrassed of the "Chad Wannabes" so desperate for recognition and looking to get their e-peen hard they agree to carry this worthless scrub.

I helped OP and they did okay. They were using SnS and basically had zero hope of breaking the head by themselves, so they just wanted help getting some eyes. I guess they didn't know any other weapons, but my point is that you seriously need to stop assuming the worst out of people and get off your high horse. OP contributed to the fight and seemed competent, which is good enough imo.

If that is the case then I definetly do understand. The word carry does have a certain weight and people tend to assume that it means that someone is not willing to put in any effort. I do understand why people wrongly assumed that it meant that they had to complete the fight for him.

He probably could have done it himself though. SNS can certainly break the head and he also had the option to use a ZSD spam build, which is extremely easy to use. You can always switch weapons if youre struggling with the one that youre currently using. Some weapons can break the head more easily then others, altough every weapon is certainly capable of breaking it. The reasons as to why he didn't do that are his own however.

[heronumber00]

Originally posted by maelynx:

I helped OP and they did okay. They were using SnS...

"THEY"? Did you spray Guizin with water and he multiplies or something? ROTFLMAO

[darksouls]

Originally posted by Guizin:

At least as far as getting both horns to break, I need fatalis eye.

i support your thread

i stole a win by surviving long enough in a game

[Sui Generic]

Originally posted by heronumber00:

Originally posted by maelynx:

I helped OP and they did okay. They were using SnS...

"THEY"? Did you spray Guizin with water and he multiplies or something? ROTFLMAO

Piss off, dude. Absolutely useless post. But in case you are genuinely grammatically ignorant and weren't just trying to score easy points with your red-pilled bros: use of 'they' in a singular context is acceptable English[public.oed.com].