Thought on Monster Hunter female armor ?

[kampfer91]

After reading the leak about people " consult " Capcom on what the west want , i kinda worry .
Is female armor too skimpy for you ? Is the design overall in all previous series good enough and not attract unwanted attention ? Are you satisfy with female model design and female armor in general ?

[Doctor Teo]

I'm a dude playing a girl character.

Yes, some of the stuff is too skimpy. However, with the layered armor system, I never had to wear the skimpy stuff if I didn't want to.

There are enough options, and enough flexibility in the system, that you never have to wear gear you don't want to. My girl is dressed up as an awesome biker-chick, but sometimes I like the full leather hunter's outfit, and other times I go for the heavy armor look depending on what I'm playing.

[Bad-Mouth Basil]

wanna unpack my comment?

[FauxFurry]

Even if for whatever reason I believed that it was possible for armor sets in Monster Hunter games to be too skimpy, the Layered Armor option would render that feeling even more meaningless.

Most of the armors are the same straightforward 'practical' to the point of actually being impractical fare if one were to keep real world anatomy in mind (they would have to be adjusted for women to be able to move around in them with any amount of ease)that one would see any any modern Western RPG so one could really only come to this conclusion if one thinks that there should never be a more revealing option for female characters on any armor set, leaving that sort of thing to be the domain of male characters alone.
https://monsterhunterworld.wiki.fextralife.com/Armor

There should be more armor customization along with more options to adjust a character's features so everyone can tweak everything to their own tastes rather than trying the recipe for failure that is the one-size-fits-all approach to aesthetics.
If someone wants to be covered from head-to-toe in armor, that should be their choice just as it should be someone else's choice to have their character wear a scarf, a smile and nothing else as if they were Heracles wearing the Nemean Lion's pelt into combat alone.

[SteeamRentShop]

引用自 FauxFurry：

There should be more armor customization

mmm yes, make it slider based please capcom.

[Hammer Of Evil]

idk why you'd do market research for free for capcom but ok bruh

[Fregi]

i just think the male sets look cooler

[RopeDrink]

Armor too skimpy? For the longest time, the most that people talked about were thigh-windows in the Clifford set back in the day. The vast majority are full coverage sets and practically every base-game set kept the models original work-out shape. It's only since Iceborne that certain armors make it out like female hunters were carrying a spare pair of silicone implants, and they're few and far between - typically from event quests, bar certain things like the Anjanath set.

Sure, there are exceptions - and I won't deny that I'm one of many who will happily stick with the normal buff-body chestpiece - but the vast majority leave everything to the imagination. You can't blame Capcom for eventually adding more appealing options throughout the games relatively long-ending lifespan, and I doubt that new games are going to begin with female hunters waltzing around in skimpy dresses with their knickers on display... though to be fair, I wouldn't be surprised either. Capcom do love their cosmetic DLC's.

[JPM岩]

I want the male armor to be as exposed as the female armor.

[FauxFurry]

引用自 ⎛⎝ Yes ⎠⎞：

I get really sick and tired of these kinds of discussions.
Mainly for two reasons.

Number one, why is the male gear always treated as the default?
Imo the female gear looks way better and has FAR more variety than the male gear does, it also has more personality to it and doesn't look as '' basic soldier '' but more ornamental and expressive ( which makes sense, they're basically trophies from hunting ).

If people want to '' standardize it '' and make all of the gear the same, then why in the hell is it ALWAYS that the female gear needs to look like the male gear???
Even tho the female gear has FAR more variety and is more expressive than the male gear?
Imo make the male gear look like the female gear then...

I sometimes see people defend their complaints with '' oh, but if the male gear was skimpy too I wouldn't complain ''.
But that's not the complaint, and ppl only ever complain about it when it's women showing skin they never do it when men show skin.
If people want more variety with the male gear that's perfectly fine and I'd support people asking for more skimpy options for male characters, but that's not the same as just complaining that female characters have skimpy options and saying that it needs to be more like the male gear... Those two standpoints are contradictory.

Like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gets boring when it's just pants and nothing else.
The female gear isn't the problem, the problem if anything is that the male gear has no real variety in comparison.
But instead people choose to complain about the female gear?

Instead of asking why female characters have revealing options, ask why male characters don't because it makes male characters LESS varied.




Number two, skimpy ≠ sexual/ sexualized.
I don't think that any of the gear in this game is '' sexualized '', and like I said before the gear is basically trophies from the hunt they're meant to be flashy.
And some of them are clearly supposed to be more Barbarian in nature.

And no one would say that a man in shorts is sexualized, and yet when female characters wear shorts it is?
I also think that some exposed skin can break up the monotony in a design, the Odogaron armor is a great example of this.
The female version looks 500 times better imo, and the exposed skin is one of the reasons because it breaks up the black and red and also adds some extra sharper shapes so that it's not just a big splash of black and red on the character.
Exposed skin is a design and aesthetic thing too, the thigh cut-out just adds visual interest and makes the design look less '' blocky ''.
It brings out the humanity in a way, sorta like how an exposed face makes us feel more connected with the person too ( why main characters don't wear helmets in movies ).

Quite frankly, some people need to grow up when it comes to this.
People are way too overly sensitive to human skin, you have people unironically arguing that women showing shoulders is borderline porn on sites like Twitch ( yes, that's real ).
There's even cases of women in countries like the US and the UK being told to cover up because they show shoulders at school and it '' distracts boys '', again not a joke this is a real thing that happens.

I think that if someone sees a woman wearing shorts or showing a bit of belly or whatever and they think that it's '' sexualized or oversexualized '' they have actual problems that they need to see a psychiatrist for or something.
I don't think that being that sensitive to womens bodies is healthy.

引用自 FauxFurry：

Most of the armors are the same straightforward 'practical'

There is no such thing as practical armor and weapons in Monster Hunter, and there's not supposed to be.

I used the quotation marks for a reason as much of what people mistake for 'practical' would actually need to be adjusted to allow women to move around in it properly precisely because men and women have different bone structure.
Both sexes wearing the same restrictive gear with equal ease is more fantasy than everyone wearing revealing armor (since men have worn fairly skimpy armor in certain regions throughout history).

[Geck0]

引用自 Zhou Yu：

Oh boy you’re opening a nasty can of worms with those questions, which I’ll happily answer of course. Personally I’m generally ok with the female designs and think that the vast majority of people are fine as well. But it does get annoying seeing so many naked thighs when the male counterparts don’t. In fact I wish the female armor was as skimpy as the male armor, like give me more good choices between showing some skin and fully armoring up. The Zinogre armor is a good example where the differences are massive, would love to have a choice to get the male armor for me. There’s also some stuff like the massive plate dresses which I dislike the look of and thus will never use in any layered armor set. Also high heels, I just don’t like high heels on my girl.

I personally would like to see the opposite. Dudes in skimpy armour. It's why Kirin's my fav. Equally revealing on dudes AND ladies.

[Valentine (Lunaticus)]

引用自 FauxFurry：

I used the quotation marks for a reason as much of what people mistake for 'practical' would actually need to be adjusted to allow women to move around in it properly precisely because men and women have different bone structure.
Both sexes wearing the same restrictive gear with equal ease is more fantasy than everyone wearing revealing armor (since men have worn fairly skimpy armor in certain regions throughout history).

Where the hell did you get that from? I've never heard anyone talk about bone structure between genders when talking about armor usage in anyway so I'll say a big doubt to that. Actually I'll go a step further and call it a complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Armor is fit to the actual person it's made for anyway, whether you're a male or female it's probably not gonna fit you unless it was made for you.

[rad_knight]

i don't personally mind (particularly with the suits where each gender is pretty evenly skimpy), but the option to just use either design on either gender would fix the problem instantly.

[Valentine (Lunaticus)]

引用自 ⎛⎝ Yes ⎠⎞：

Number one, why is the male gear always treated as the default?
Imo the female gear looks way better and has FAR more variety than the male gear does, it also has more personality to it and doesn't look as '' basic soldier '' but more ornamental and expressive ( which makes sense, they're basically trophies from hunting ).

If people want to '' standardize it '' and make all of the gear the same, then why in the hell is it ALWAYS that the female gear needs to look like the male gear???
Even tho the female gear has FAR more variety and is more expressive than the male gear?
Imo make the male gear look like the female gear then...

Well male armor doesn't have stupid looking thighs gaps needlessly added to almost every armor. It's so stupid since it's such an easy fix too with the alpha and beta system that we have in MHW, just make the other version not have it and everyone's happy (well not EVERYONE of course).

引用自 ⎛⎝ Yes ⎠⎞：

I sometimes see people defend their complaints with '' oh, but if the male gear was skimpy too I wouldn't complain ''.
But that's not the complaint, and ppl only ever complain about it when it's women showing skin they never do it when men show skin.
If people want more variety with the male gear that's perfectly fine and I'd support people asking for more skimpy options for male characters, but that's not the same as just complaining that female characters have skimpy options and saying that it needs to be more like the male gear... Those two standpoints are contradictory.

Do you actually have an example of this? Cause it is always the females that wear skimpy outfits after all. Is there actually some game or something somewhere with skimpy dressed men and non skimpy females where people where happy with the designs then?

Cause you'd have to have at least one in mind to make this argument, right?

引用自 ⎛⎝ Yes ⎠⎞：

Like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gets boring when it's just pants and nothing else.
The female gear isn't the problem, the problem if anything is that the male gear has no real variety in comparison.
But instead people choose to complain about the female gear?

Well it also sucks having loads of cosmetic options ruined because they needlessly added stupid thigh gaps to them.

引用自 ⎛⎝ Yes ⎠⎞：

Instead of asking why female characters have revealing options, ask why male characters don't because it makes male characters LESS varied.

They do, you just don't seem to want to acknowledge them.

引用自 ⎛⎝ Yes ⎠⎞：

'' oh, but if the male gear was skimpy too I wouldn't complain ''.But that's not the complaint, and ppl only ever complain about it when it's women showing skin they never do it when men show skin.

Also yeah considering how many people would seem to like stereotypical barbarian style, it'd make sense to have skimpier options for males too.

引用自 ⎛⎝ Yes ⎠⎞：

And no one would say that a man in shorts is sexualized, and yet when female characters wear shorts it is?

Well it they're the kind of shorts that don't go into her ass crack then no I don't think no one will say that.

引用自 ⎛⎝ Yes ⎠⎞：

I think that if someone sees a woman wearing shorts or showing a bit of belly or whatever and they think that it's '' sexualized or oversexualized '' they have actual problems that they need to see a psychiatrist for or something.
I don't think that being that sensitive to womens bodies is healthy.

Ok..? That has literally nothing to do with this topic though.

引用自 rad_knight：

i don't personally mind (particularly with the suits where each gender is pretty evenly skimpy), but the option to just use either design on either gender would fix the problem instantly.

See here's another person saying it, if they were equal people wouldn't complain about it.

[:bestgamerchina#1最好的中國]

Idgaf about female armors with exception of the helmets. Just give us options between versions.
Alpha-open visor
Beta-closed visor THANKS AND BACK OFF.

[FauxFurry]

引用自 Valentine (Lunaticus)：

引用自 ⎛⎝ Yes ⎠⎞：

Number one, why is the male gear always treated as the default?
Imo the female gear looks way better and has FAR more variety than the male gear does, it also has more personality to it and doesn't look as '' basic soldier '' but more ornamental and expressive ( which makes sense, they're basically trophies from hunting ).

If people want to '' standardize it '' and make all of the gear the same, then why in the hell is it ALWAYS that the female gear needs to look like the male gear???
Even tho the female gear has FAR more variety and is more expressive than the male gear?
Imo make the male gear look like the female gear then...

Well male armor doesn't have stupid looking thighs gaps needlessly added to almost every armor. It's so stupid since it's such an easy fix too with the alpha and beta system that we have in MHW, just make the other version not have it and everyone's happy (well not EVERYONE of course).

引用自 ⎛⎝ Yes ⎠⎞：

I sometimes see people defend their complaints with '' oh, but if the male gear was skimpy too I wouldn't complain ''.
But that's not the complaint, and ppl only ever complain about it when it's women showing skin they never do it when men show skin.
If people want more variety with the male gear that's perfectly fine and I'd support people asking for more skimpy options for male characters, but that's not the same as just complaining that female characters have skimpy options and saying that it needs to be more like the male gear... Those two standpoints are contradictory.

Do you actually have an example of this? Cause it is always the females that wear skimpy outfits after all. Is there actually some game or something somewhere with skimpy dressed men and non skimpy females where people where happy with the designs then?

Cause you'd have to have at least one in mind to make this argument, right?

引用自 ⎛⎝ Yes ⎠⎞：

Like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gets boring when it's just pants and nothing else.
The female gear isn't the problem, the problem if anything is that the male gear has no real variety in comparison.
But instead people choose to complain about the female gear?

Well it also sucks having loads of cosmetic options ruined because they needlessly added stupid thigh gaps to them.

引用自 ⎛⎝ Yes ⎠⎞：

Instead of asking why female characters have revealing options, ask why male characters don't because it makes male characters LESS varied.

They do, you just don't seem to want to acknowledge them.

引用自 ⎛⎝ Yes ⎠⎞：

'' oh, but if the male gear was skimpy too I wouldn't complain ''.But that's not the complaint, and ppl only ever complain about it when it's women showing skin they never do it when men show skin.

Also yeah considering how many people would seem to like stereotypical barbarian style, it'd make sense to have skimpier options for males too.

引用自 ⎛⎝ Yes ⎠⎞：

And no one would say that a man in shorts is sexualized, and yet when female characters wear shorts it is?

Well it they're the kind of shorts that don't go into her ass crack then no I don't think no one will say that.

引用自 ⎛⎝ Yes ⎠⎞：

I think that if someone sees a woman wearing shorts or showing a bit of belly or whatever and they think that it's '' sexualized or oversexualized '' they have actual problems that they need to see a psychiatrist for or something.
I don't think that being that sensitive to womens bodies is healthy.

Ok..? That has literally nothing to do with this topic though.

引用自 rad_knight：

i don't personally mind (particularly with the suits where each gender is pretty evenly skimpy), but the option to just use either design on either gender would fix the problem instantly.

See here's another person saying it, if they were equal people wouldn't complain about it.

It all depends how one defines skimpy, really. Gauntlet 2013, Dragon Age Inquisition and the Assassin's Creed Odyssey are examples which could fall under that category.