Monster Hunter: World

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Boddz Sep 21, 2020 @ 2:42pm
What's the best Element to use against Alatreon ?
I'm using SA btw
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Shiroe (cortana) Sep 21, 2020 @ 2:47pm 
ice or fire if you can break the horns to stop the element transformation, or dragon if you cant break them + critical element.

I personally use dragon element DB(i use his weapon) with 2 set velkana and 3 set safijiva and it just dumps elemental dmg on him.
Last edited by Shiroe (cortana); Sep 21, 2020 @ 2:48pm
Pendergast891 Sep 21, 2020 @ 2:49pm 
if you havent beaten it yet, it starts in fire mode, then goes to dragon, then ice. If you're able to dps it fast enough, you can skip the ice phase as it swaps between fire and dragon.

If you have beaten it before, theres event quests that swap between alatreon starting in fire or ice mode. So you'll either want to bring ice element when it starts in fire, or vice versa.

Or you can bring dragon element to deal slightly less, but much more consistent elemental damage throughout the fight.

Avoid water and thunder no matter what.
Boddz Sep 21, 2020 @ 2:53pm 
thanks

dang he's really a pain in the ass huh ...?
Shiroe (cortana) Sep 21, 2020 @ 2:59pm 
Originally posted by Boddz:
thanks

dang he's really a pain in the ass huh ...?
hes a real pain in the ass :)

But if you can just focus on dealing enough elemental dmg to prevent the supernova from instakilling you its alot easier.
Zhou Yu Sep 21, 2020 @ 3:47pm 
Originally posted by Pendergast891:
if you havent beaten it yet, it starts in fire mode, then goes to dragon, then ice. If you're able to dps it fast enough, you can skip the ice phase as it swaps between fire and dragon.

If you have beaten it before, theres event quests that swap between alatreon starting in fire or ice mode. So you'll either want to bring ice element when it starts in fire, or vice versa.

Or you can bring dragon element to deal slightly less, but much more consistent elemental damage throughout the fight.

Avoid water and thunder no matter what.
Ehhh, I solo’d him with water kjarr lance without safi armor. Worked out pretty well, I would have used ice kjarr but I don’t have one. I would advocate for thunder and water as long as you know how to pump up their damage a little, and use it as a backup if you don’t have one of the two main elements.
Maffeketel Sep 21, 2020 @ 4:00pm 
If you can reliably break the horns then ice or fire are the best elements.
Ice is super effective when he's in fire form and fire is super effective when he's in ice form.
During the special assignment he always starts in fire form so ice would be your best bet, but keep in mind that you have to break the horns as otherwise you can no longer weaken the second Escaton Judgement.

Dragon element is always effective and becomes super effective when he switches to dragon mode. It's the safest option as you don't have to break the horns in order to weaken the nova.

Ironically the best dragon element weapons are Alatreon's weapons, but you can obtain these without actually defeating him. You can use the plunderblade to gather a few materials and then use those to craft the weapons. The Kjarr dragon weapons are also an alternative and the Kjarr weapons in general are the best choice for every elemental damage type except dragon for most weapon types.

Make sure that you have prepared an elemental set to deal a lot of elemental damage to him to weaken the Escaton Judgement. This can be achieved by equipping the Safi armor and using decorations to buff the elemental attack of the weapon that youre using. With the proper build you can weaken his Escaton Judgement almost instantly.
Equipping blight resistance 3 is really helpful as well and as usual health boost 3 is mandatory.

I hope this helps you out!
Good luck! :mhwgood:
Last edited by Maffeketel; Sep 21, 2020 @ 4:02pm
Boddz Sep 21, 2020 @ 5:54pm 
thanks for the advice


man, all these years playing MonHun and this is the very first monster ever to make me feel sooo burned out 😩

and this monster is really amazing too, except for the eschaton... what a shame
Rokso Sep 21, 2020 @ 7:26pm 
Eat a jerky when the judgement starts doing damage and you'll heal to full.

Its really not a big thing long as you are meeting the element damage check to power it down.
Walrus-Sama Sep 21, 2020 @ 8:30pm 
The 5 elements fit into 3 groups:

1. Fire and Ice: The strongest verse the opposite mode, but will do 0 elemental damage to itself. This means it is very high risk, high reward. To use these effectively you must break Alatreons horns during his Dragon mode so he does not switch to the other element. Failure to break the horns will likely result in your death. Note: Horns can only be broke twice, so after the 3rd Escaton Judgement he will switch, and you need to kill him before the 4th EJ.

2. Thunder and Water: These are intermediate elements. They will always work but Alatreons elemental hitzones change depending on mode. If you use these you do not need to break the horns, but doing so is strongly recommended if you can as the hitzones will get worse if he switches. These elements are for when you are uncertain if you can break the horns or not.

3. Dragon: Dragon is considered the worse element for Alatreon. It always works, but has trash elemental hitzones for Fire and Ice mode, and only moderate hitzones for Dragon mode. Breaking the horns is irrelevant for Dragon element.


To summarize:

Fire Mode Start: Use Ice (and Break Horns), or Water (if uncertain about getting Horn Break).

Ice Mode Start: Use Fire (and Break Horns), or Thunder (if uncertain about getting Horn Break).

Use Dragon if you want to turn your brain off, and probably fail.
Giallombardo Sep 21, 2020 @ 11:15pm 
fire and ice
Xilo The Odd Sep 21, 2020 @ 11:21pm 
well if your hunting in a group, deciding what you should bring might depend on the group. if the other 3 guys got the primary weakness for element on their weapons, you might bring dragon. Swag Axe has its own form of extra part break damage, stack PB 3 and bring a dragon axe, get that elemental knockdown if they did not, and beat the piss out of its head till a horn breaks. now you've become the hero of the group! :)

if your solo its best to make your first attempt with the element he is weakest to for the fight and practice getting that elemental flinch and horn break each round. then its all about trying to kill him before he gets a 3rd judgement off (horns break twice.) though typically if your getting an elemental flinch each judgement solo your doing good and should be able to end the fight fairly easily.
Boddz Sep 22, 2020 @ 8:17am 
finally beat him with ice

glad that's over 😩
Maffeketel Sep 22, 2020 @ 8:52am 
Congratulations! Well done!

It is a difficult fight and it took quite a lot of tries for me as well!
Youre now prepared to face Fatalis next month!

Well done hunter! :mhwgood::mhwhappy:
Maffeketel Sep 22, 2020 @ 8:56am 
Originally posted by Elite Monster Hunter.:
breaking the horns doesn't stop his elemental changing

Yes it does?

The only element he will always change into is dragon element.
If you break the horns and he started in fire form then he will remain in fire form after the escaton judgement. When he starts in ice form this applies as well.

You can always opt to use a neutral element so you can always weaken the escaton judgement such as dragon, thunder or water. If you use these you don't have to break the horns as you can always weaken the escaton judgement.
Boddz Sep 22, 2020 @ 9:19am 
Originally posted by Maffeketel:

Youre now prepared to face Fatalis next month!


after this, i'm not sure i even excited for fatalis 😩
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