Nergi VS Fatalis Trio ?

[OG.UA SAPUTRA]

So from what i heard the new monster is just like xeno, a budding stage ( because he is black ) and then transforms into a "real" and final form ( when is transforms from black into white )

From a long time he is at the top of the food chain on the old world but now with new world expansion ( MHW ) we got our very own contender. Yes, nergigante ! The eater of elder, the warden of the universe's ecosystem, the manifestation of primal rage and ruthlesness since genesis, and ofcourse our very own spiky boiii

We have seen that spiky boi could go toe-to-toe with elders and even instagibbed shara like its nothing, not to mention he also absorbs an elder dragon that is basically a moving island out of its energy source

So instead of the fatalis trio being the last and the hardest fight ( both in game and in lore ) could it be we will fight a "reborn" nergigante after he kills all 3 fatalis and absorbed them all ? I could imagine that when we finally beat lesser fatalis ( the black one ) and getting ready to fight his final form ( the white one ) nergi instead suddenly instagibbed white fatalis -> absorbed it -> trancended into neo-nergi and we finally have our own epic final battle on MHW

So in analogy using Bleach i would say that we the hunters are ichigo ( main mc with plot armor ) while fatalis trio is the established big bad ( aizen ) while nergi is the hidden final bad (yhwch)

Let me what you guys think !

[Tregrenos]

引用自 Emerald Lance：

Some people talking about black dragons as if they're the same categorization as elder dragons, just like elder dragons are a different category to wyverns. Are we comparing Nergi to Rathalos now? Probably not, because Nergi would roflstomp a Rathalos no diff. So why are we even entertaining the idea of ANY elder dragon defeating ANY black dragon in combat, much less the canonically strongest black dragon? Nergi gets all this love and hype because he's the new hotness, but in a straight fight with a black dragon he would get turned into little pieces of spiky mush.

Against Fatalis, Nergigante might as well be a Pukei Pukei.

Until now we never had an "Apex Elder", something that actively hunts down and eats other elder dragons. If Nergi is meant to be the top of the food chain compared to Elder Dragons then where does it stand against a Black Dragon if the Black Dragons tactics would be no different than any other Elder Dragon? In all fairness Alatreon and Fatalis won't be throwing anything new at Nergi, a creature experienced in dealing with various forms of elemental attacks while relying on brute force and its uncanny regeneration.

In the end, if Fatalis actually took Nergi serious at the start, Fatalis might manage to either beat it or drive it away. However, if Fatalis doesn't take Nergi serious, a habit this trio have shown in the past, then it will allow Nergi to get in too many early hits and by the time Fatalis responds seriously its attacks may be weaker. In a war of attrition against an opponent you have no knowledge on, can withstand your attacks and recover from them while never letting up on its own offence you can't let your guard down. Nergi, however, doesn't have to treat Fatalis any different from any other Elder Dragon he's hunted before.

I'm interested in seeing how World fixes the boring Fatalis fight, but if he's as big and slow of a target as he's always been then I don't see him managing to fend off Nergi. They were able to amp-up Alatreon, but Alatreon already had a better fight than Fatalis to begin with.

[OG.UA SAPUTRA]

引用自 Emerald Lance：

Some people talking about black dragons as if they're the same categorization as elder dragons, just like elder dragons are a different category to wyverns. Are we comparing Nergi to Rathalos now? Probably not, because Nergi would roflstomp a Rathalos no diff. So why are we even entertaining the idea of ANY elder dragon defeating ANY black dragon in combat, much less the canonically strongest black dragon? Nergi gets all this love and hype because he's the new hotness, but in a straight fight with a black dragon he would get turned into little pieces of spiky mush.

Against Fatalis, Nergigante might as well be a Pukei Pukei.

black dragon are just elders like teo or luna that is black

And nergi being an elder hunter makes it logical to compare them no ?

[Sekaro]

引用自 OG.UA SAPUTRA：

引用自 Emerald Lance：

Some people talking about black dragons as if they're the same categorization as elder dragons, just like elder dragons are a different category to wyverns. Are we comparing Nergi to Rathalos now? Probably not, because Nergi would roflstomp a Rathalos no diff. So why are we even entertaining the idea of ANY elder dragon defeating ANY black dragon in combat, much less the canonically strongest black dragon? Nergi gets all this love and hype because he's the new hotness, but in a straight fight with a black dragon he would get turned into little pieces of spiky mush.

Against Fatalis, Nergigante might as well be a Pukei Pukei.

black dragon are just elders like teo or luna that is black

And nergi being an elder hunter makes it logical to compare them no ?

Black Dragon is merely just a title. The more accurate term to call them is Dangerous First-Class Monsters. As implied from the title, they're beyond even elders & are said to have the ability to bring about the destruction of the world if they wanted to.

I don't believe our spiky boi has the capability to do that but I find it cute that he always tries to take on monsters that are clearly stronger than him. He's like the underdog of the elders.

[Giallombardo]

furious rajang droves away ruiner nergigante and you wanted it to eat fatalis

[Emerald Lance]

引用自 OG.UA SAPUTRA：

引用自 Emerald Lance：

Some people talking about black dragons as if they're the same categorization as elder dragons, just like elder dragons are a different category to wyverns. Are we comparing Nergi to Rathalos now? Probably not, because Nergi would roflstomp a Rathalos no diff. So why are we even entertaining the idea of ANY elder dragon defeating ANY black dragon in combat, much less the canonically strongest black dragon? Nergi gets all this love and hype because he's the new hotness, but in a straight fight with a black dragon he would get turned into little pieces of spiky mush.

Against Fatalis, Nergigante might as well be a Pukei Pukei.

black dragon are just elders like teo or luna that is black

And nergi being an elder hunter makes it logical to compare them no ?

Black dragons are not elder dragons that are just black. In fact, appearance has nothing to do with it, much like the elder dragon class in general (Teostra is a lion not a dragon, Kirin is a horse not a dragon, etc). While they technically are still elder dragons, the black dragon lable marks them as being decidedly above other elders, and not just by a little bit either. As I mentioned earlier, black dragons are to elders what elders are to regular wyverns.

Fatalis is so fearsome that ALL other monsters flee from it, including other elder dragons and even other black dragons; meanwhile Nergigante has been driven off (both by humans and by monsters) more times than it has successfully killed anything on screen, and even then it only killed elders that were already defeated in combat. Both on camera and according to lore, the feats just aren't there to support the idea that Nergigante could kill Fatalis.

Fatalis is canonically THE strongest monster.

@Tregrenos- I do acknowledge the difference a combatant's personality would have in a fight. And I do think that, if Nergi has even a chance of defeating Fatalis, it will be because the latter underestimated the former. But I still feel Fatalis's might is being downplayed here. He destroys entire cities in a single breath, while Nergi has a kinda impressive divebomb attack. The destructive scale doesn't even compare. If Nergi did win, it would be a very tight victory.

[Ortaign]

引用自 Giallombardo：

furious rajang droves away ruiner nergigante and you wanted it to eat fatalis

To put this comment in other words; Saying Ruiner Nergigante can kill Fatalis is the same as saying Furious Rajang can kill Fatalis