Nergi VS Fatalis Trio ?

[OG.UA SAPUTRA]

So from what i heard the new monster is just like xeno, a budding stage ( because he is black ) and then transforms into a "real" and final form ( when is transforms from black into white )

From a long time he is at the top of the food chain on the old world but now with new world expansion ( MHW ) we got our very own contender. Yes, nergigante ! The eater of elder, the warden of the universe's ecosystem, the manifestation of primal rage and ruthlesness since genesis, and ofcourse our very own spiky boiii

We have seen that spiky boi could go toe-to-toe with elders and even instagibbed shara like its nothing, not to mention he also absorbs an elder dragon that is basically a moving island out of its energy source

So instead of the fatalis trio being the last and the hardest fight ( both in game and in lore ) could it be we will fight a "reborn" nergigante after he kills all 3 fatalis and absorbed them all ? I could imagine that when we finally beat lesser fatalis ( the black one ) and getting ready to fight his final form ( the white one ) nergi instead suddenly instagibbed white fatalis -> absorbed it -> trancended into neo-nergi and we finally have our own epic final battle on MHW

So in analogy using Bleach i would say that we the hunters are ichigo ( main mc with plot armor ) while fatalis trio is the established big bad ( aizen ) while nergi is the hidden final bad (yhwch)

Let me what you guys think !

[Rudi]

Escrito originalmente por Sᵘᵍᵃʳˡᵉˢˢ ᴛᴇᴀ:

Fatalis is nothing but lore and empty hype.
We have seen spiky boi fight other monsters np.

Fatalis is a Monster that hasn't had a makeover since 4U and he basically doesn't have to fight because every living being, even lao, who could just squish nergi, was terrified of him. Nergi is completely new to MH so he has all the fancy turf wars stuff, we'll see what they do with fatty. We also have alatreon, he could kill nergi easily. Fatty is even stronger than alatreon so why would he be weaker?

[OG.UA SAPUTRA]

Escrito originalmente por Juliane_L:

nergi ties with your average elder dragon, like teo or velk.
and you think this average ED can take down freaking FATALIS.
is this some kind of joke?

thats a slippery slope logical fallacy.

Think about it like this, superman would easily bested every single human being in term of physical strength no ?

But he loses to kryptonite even if the one hildong the kryptonite is a 10yo boy

Now would the 10yo boy actually be stronger than every human because he bested superman ?

The same thing for nergi, he is the kryptonite for elder dragons

[Rudi]

Escrito originalmente por OG.UA SAPUTRA:

Escrito originalmente por Juliane_L:

nergi ties with your average elder dragon, like teo or velk.
and you think this average ED can take down freaking FATALIS.
is this some kind of joke?

thats a slippery slope logical fallacy.

Think about it like this, superman would easily bested every single human being in term of physical strength no ?

But he loses to kryptonite even if the one hildong the kryptonite is a 10yo boy

Now would the 10yo boy actually be stronger than every human because he bested superman ?

The same thing for nergi, he is the kryptonite for elder dragons

Fatalis is THE Black Dragon. He's basically the King of Elders. Even though he Isn't one.

[OG.UA SAPUTRA]

Escrito originalmente por JPM岩:

Well first off, fatalis cant die, he just constant regenerates. Second off, Fatalis isnt a baby like xeno. Fatalis is fully grown, it's just that when they get extremely old, their color fades and they grow hair, basically like an old person.

okay but that means its a huge win for nergi as he can simply shred fatalis to pieces and store them all in hs belly where all 3 of their "cores" constantly regenerating but nergi's stomach acid prevents them from doing so wich means nergi will have an infinite supply of energy from 3 fatalis

[Aamonael]

nope just nope, if nergi face to face with full power shara that will be the end of nergi, his strong but still only on teo or chameleos Elder Dragon level, it did;t say on the lore his on same power as such Gogmazios or Nakarkos, Amatsu where Elder dragon's such them appears is big threat to a city/village or two.

[Kaldor Draigo]

Escrito originalmente por OG.UA SAPUTRA:

Escrito originalmente por JPM岩:

Well first off, fatalis cant die, he just constant regenerates. Second off, Fatalis isnt a baby like xeno. Fatalis is fully grown, it's just that when they get extremely old, their color fades and they grow hair, basically like an old person.

okay but that means its a huge win for nergi as he can simply shred fatalis to pieces and store them all in hs belly where all 3 of their "cores" constantly regenerating but nergi's stomach acid prevents them from doing so wich means nergi will have an infinite supply of energy from 3 fatalis

Oi mate, you have some crazy fantasies. Cool for a fan comic I guess but Capcom themselves said that Fatalis is a the top of the food chain.

[Aamonael]

Fatalis? man Alatreon can kill Nergi weak as$ in minute's
Alatreon just used Dragon that will be the end of nergi

[Ortaign]

Escrito originalmente por Sᵘᵍᵃʳˡᵉˢˢ ᴛᴇᴀ:

Fatalis is nothing but lore and empty hype.
We have seen spiky boi fight other monsters np.

I could honestly say Nergigante is nothing but empty hype, he did nothing to Zorah, he lost to Lunastra, only time he did something was with Shara Ishvalda, but the player did about all the work there.

[Shpeeno]

I like how this guy picks the SINGLE comment that agrees with him to be the "answer" to his post.

There's some wild misconception going on that nergigante is some fierce elder-killer. He's not. He doesn't have some special power that helps him kill elder dragons. That's just his diet. He's only as strong as teostra or kushala. As noted, he even lost to the tag-team of teostra and lunastra, the two of which combined are still miles below fatalis in terms of strength.

[Fregi]

Nergigante is just very opportunistic, he wouldn't go after Safi'jiiva or Fatalis out of the sheer power those two have. They only picked on Zorah because they could easily get away with biting a few chunks off and flying away.

[GladiatorDragon]

Nergigante/Ruiner Nergigante is the eater of elders. However, that doesn't mean he can eat any elder. The likes of the Black Dragons, Safi'jiva, and probably even Shara in rock form would be able to chase him off with relative ease. The thing with Nergigiante is that he rushes down foes and overpowers them with his brute physical strength before they can properly use their elements to defend themselves.

However, monsters that survive Nergigante's initial rush, like how Nerg couldn't fight Shara with his rocks, or even manage to physically match him on their own, like Savage Jho and Rajang, will have far greater luck. I feel Fatalis would probably be capable of both, if he doesn't melt Nerg before he even is able to approach.

Also, keep in mind that Nergigante lives in the new world, and it's highly unlikely that Nergigante (at least, not the one we fight) would attempt to cross the ocean just to get some Fatalis scraps, when even a Lao Shan Lung felt no choice but to run from the thing. Nergi is strong, but not nearly strong enough to take on Fatalis. Shara was ambushed, and wasn't able to react properly to Nergigante's beatdown.

[Tregrenos]

The thing about Nergi is that he's built to win. He's purely physical, only needing to get in close to go for a killing blow. He doesn't gauge his opponent, he just goes in for the kill. Most elders don't have a response to this because their elemental attacks are mostly hitting his spikes that regrow anyway, so it's generally easy for Nergi to get in close.

He's shown to have difficulty with opponents with thick rock armor (Zorra/Shara), but has no trouble getting through the metal hide of Kushala. Even if Fatalis' body is covered in the armor of hunters it's still thin enough for Nergi to deal with. Fatalis most likely wouldn't even consider Nergi a challenge until it's too late for him to do anything.

Overthinking an opponent is the mistake most elders make when up against Nergi, a creature built to rush into the attack without any advanced preparation.

[Rudi]

Escrito originalmente por Tregrenos:

The thing about Nergi is that he's built to win. He's purely physical, only needing to get in close to go for a killing blow. He doesn't gauge his opponent, he just goes in for the kill. Most elders don't have a response to this because their elemental attacks are mostly hitting his spikes that regrow anyway, so it's generally easy for Nergi to get in close.

He's shown to have difficulty with opponents with thick rock armor (Zorra/Shara), but has no trouble getting through the metal hide of Kushala. Even if Fatalis' body is covered in the armor of hunters it's still thin enough for Nergi to deal with. Fatalis most likely wouldn't even consider Nergi a challenge until it's too late for him to do anything.

Overthinking an opponent is the mistake most elders make when up against Nergi, a creature built to rush into the attack without any advanced preparation.

You literally bounce off fattys legs with purple sharpness. He nearly wiped out an entire civilisation, all that to be killed by some spikey boi?!?!? Hell no! Even Lao was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terrified of him. Nergi wouldn't even dare to go anywhere near schrade and even if he would, he'd get destroyed. He hit's hard ngl but Fatalis is as if not even more intelligent than a hunter while nergi is just a brainless bulldozer that kills almost everything that he sees.

Kushala skin is weak. You can see how thin it is in his ecology video where he sheds it. Fatalis has his own thick hide, combined with molten armor, some of it even from the ancient civilisation times. So his armor may even be thougher than ours.

[Fregi]

Escrito originalmente por Chefkoch Murat:

Escrito originalmente por Tregrenos:

The thing about Nergi is that he's built to win. He's purely physical, only needing to get in close to go for a killing blow. He doesn't gauge his opponent, he just goes in for the kill. Most elders don't have a response to this because their elemental attacks are mostly hitting his spikes that regrow anyway, so it's generally easy for Nergi to get in close.

He's shown to have difficulty with opponents with thick rock armor (Zorra/Shara), but has no trouble getting through the metal hide of Kushala. Even if Fatalis' body is covered in the armor of hunters it's still thin enough for Nergi to deal with. Fatalis most likely wouldn't even consider Nergi a challenge until it's too late for him to do anything.

Overthinking an opponent is the mistake most elders make when up against Nergi, a creature built to rush into the attack without any advanced preparation.

You literally bounce off fattys legs with purple sharpness. He nearly wiped out an entire civilisation, all that to be killed by some spikey boi?!?!? Hell no! Even Lao was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terrified of him. Nergi wouldn't even dare to go anywhere near schrade and even if he would, he'd get destroyed. He hit's hard ngl but Fatalis is as if not even more intelligent than a hunter while nergi is just a brainless bulldozer that kills almost everything that he sees.

Kushala skin is weak. You can see how thin it is in his ecology video where he sheds it. Fatalis has his own thick hide, combined with molten armor, some of it even from the ancient civilisation times. So his armor may even be thougher than ours.

Yep.
Plus, we only see the smarter side of nergi (Sitting back and waiting for hunters to do all the hard work) from RUINER nergigante. It might not even be something common to all nergigante.

[Tregrenos]

Escrito originalmente por Chefkoch Murat:

Escrito originalmente por Tregrenos:

The thing about Nergi is that he's built to win. He's purely physical, only needing to get in close to go for a killing blow. He doesn't gauge his opponent, he just goes in for the kill. Most elders don't have a response to this because their elemental attacks are mostly hitting his spikes that regrow anyway, so it's generally easy for Nergi to get in close.

He's shown to have difficulty with opponents with thick rock armor (Zorra/Shara), but has no trouble getting through the metal hide of Kushala. Even if Fatalis' body is covered in the armor of hunters it's still thin enough for Nergi to deal with. Fatalis most likely wouldn't even consider Nergi a challenge until it's too late for him to do anything.

Overthinking an opponent is the mistake most elders make when up against Nergi, a creature built to rush into the attack without any advanced preparation.

You literally bounce off fattys legs with purple sharpness. He nearly wiped out an entire civilisation, all that to be killed by some spikey boi?!?!? Hell no! Even Lao was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terrified of him. Nergi wouldn't even dare to go anywhere near schrade and even if he would, he'd get destroyed. He hit's hard ngl but Fatalis is as if not even more intelligent than a hunter while nergi is just a brainless bulldozer that kills almost everything that he sees.

Kushala skin is weak. You can see how thin it is in his ecology video where he sheds it. Fatalis has his own thick hide, combined with molten armor, some of it even from the ancient civilisation times. So his armor may even be thougher than ours.

Nergi doesn't fear Fatalis. To Nergi, Fatalis is just food and that drive alone would push him to attack without thought. With Fatalis' past incarnations being such a joke it's easy to see why Nergi going in on the offensive before Fatalis even considers him a threat and how Nergi would be quick to capitalize on this makes the fight more of an even match at the least.

The only thing that stopped Nergi from doing much against Zorra and Shara was the rock armor they had. It was just too thick for him to get through. With Fatalis, even his armored hide would be doable IMO merely due to how thin it is. With Nergi in close he'd eventually deal some serious damage before Fatalis could understand Nergi's weakness.

Something tells me Fatalis is unprepared to fight a monster that doesn't fear anything, has a regenerative factor and feeds off the power of elder dragons. Seeing as how we've beaten Saffi and Alatreon it's quite possible the story-Nergi managed to survive again, feed off the energy of black dragons BEFORE it senses and goes after Fatalis.