Your opinion on defensive greatsword builds?

[Wild Marshmallow]

I would like to know your opinion about these builds. I've seen players doing the Safi siege, some greatsword users without partbreaker, without weakness exploit, defense boost 7, divine blessing, other defensive skills while they leave out offensive skills. I don't think it makes any sense, what is their deal? Why God why? Is greatsword a tank? Why stack up defense on greatsword?

Ironically, one of these GS users without partbreaker and with defense boost 7 fainted 3 times in a row lol making the team fail, so defense boost 7 didn't help them at all. Waste of 7 slots. What's your opinion?

[Walrus-Sama]

All Greatsword user needs is their trusty shoulder and health regen augment one.

The dude you described is probably inexperienced and doesn't understand the armor skills very well.

[Scorcher]

The only "defense" I would take with greatsword is probably 3 health boost, 1 health augment, and maybe a medicine or 2.

[Wild Marshmallow]

Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:

All Greatsword user needs is their trusty shoulder and health regen augment one.

The dude you described is probably inexperienced and doesn't understand the armor skills very well.

Only in 1 day, I already came across 4 or 5 GS users using this kind of build, all of them were above MR 200, one of them was MR 600 lol. I couldn't believe someone that rank still doesn't understand the correct skills. Go figure.

[Wild Marshmallow]

Originally posted by Scorcher:

The only "defense" I would take with greatsword is probably 3 health boost, 1 health augment, and maybe a medicine or 2.

Same, I also take health boost 3, health augment and that's it when it comes to defensive skills. Greatsword has the biggest damage in the game with 1 strike, it screams to get the damage maximized as much as possible, not defense.

The only time I use medicine and recovery jewels in a GS build is if I want to use Vaal Hazaak's bonus (regeneration) which I just love in any weapon. But defense boost 7? Come on.

Not even in my tankiest lance builds I use defense boost 7.

Not to mention partbreaker is essential at Safi siege, some people still ignore it.

I'm not an elitist and not into min maxing that much but I only expect people to be competent with builds that make sense for the weapon and event or quest.

[Faust Wither]

defense boost are useless, i just use lv 3 health boost and health regen augment.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2190003175

dragon resist is a given from equipment btw.

[abdera2020]

Really? People use Defense Up for GS? My only defensive skills are the Health Boost 3 and Divine Blessing 5 and I'm already pretty comfortable with my own build because it can take on any kind of attacks.

[cklambo]

Monster can't hurt u if they are dead

[shiall]

Originally posted by Wild Marshmallow:

Not to mention partbreaker is essential at Safi siege, some people still ignore it.

Even if you don't care about loot and dracolites?

[Wild Marshmallow]

Originally posted by shiall:

Originally posted by Wild Marshmallow:

Not to mention partbreaker is essential at Safi siege, some people still ignore it.

Even if you don't care about loot and dracolites?

Yes, partbreaker is still essential for Safi siege because it's a team mode, your team has 4 players, not just you and what you care or don't care about. If you care about the team, you use partbreaker to break parts faster and help the team.

Breaking parts is a primary objective, since the more parts you break, the higher rewards level your team will reach in the end.

It's not about the loot, you play a game to have fun or a challenge, Safi has interesting mechanics to enjoy and employ teamwork.

[Wild Marshmallow]

Originally posted by abdera2020:

Really? People use Defense Up for GS? My only defensive skills are the Health Boost 3 and Divine Blessing 5 and I'm already pretty comfortable with my own build because it can take on any kind of attacks.

Lol I know right? My mind explodes with the low IQ presented to me each time I see one of these GS guys doing Safi without partbreaker and with defense boost 7, without offensive skills, they still faint over and over again.

You use Golden Rathian set? I like that set and always liked Divine Blessing. As long as you also bring important damage skills for GS and partbreaker, some Divine Blessing can be nice for a little extra survability.

But these guys using defense boost 7 really? They have no clue what they are doing. Just think about it, 7 wasted slots. 7. On a useless skill, for nothing, they still faint more than others because they lack skill and run around like headless chicken hitting every random part without thinking, without a plan. Jesus Christ.

[Maffeketel]

Defensive skills aren't that great on the GS in my opinion.
Health boost is nice to have, but that's usually the only defensive skill that I use. I also use focus 3, which can be considered a defensive skill. You can use health boost 3 in combination with the health augment as that works wonders on the GS.

The player that you met was probably fairly inexperienced with the GS. Attempting the Safi siege without partbreaker is not a good idea in addition to slotting all these weird skills on a GS build.

The GS has one of the best defensive options in the game and that is the shoulderbash. The GS does not benefit from slotting a lot of defensive skills and it is better to reserve those slots for damage based skills. Health boost 3, health augment and focus 3 are the only defensive skills you need in my opinion.

[Shinshe]

Alatreon set needs 5 defense some goes for 7 if they have space to boost there elemental dmg more resistence u get from it = more dmg with the set maybe hes doing that.

Anyone can cart on safi u have gear end game meta set or not its all about position and dogging.

[Wild Marshmallow]

Originally posted by Shinshe:

Alatreon set needs 5 defense some goes for 7 if they have space to boost there elemental dmg more resistence u get from it = more dmg with the set maybe hes doing that.

Anyone can cart on safi u have gear end game meta set or not its all about position and dogging.

No, they weren't using Alatreon set.

It's not about what set to use, it's about using the wrong, nonsensical, useless skills for the TEAM event and for the weapon.

What are you talking about? Here's a copy & paste, says nothing about defense, only about elemental resistances.

"2 Pieces (Element Conversion): Your weapon's elemental power increases as your armor's elemental resistance increases
3 Pieces (All Elemental Resistance): All Elemental Resistance further increases all elemental resistances +20%."

[Cherze81]

I have mained GS pretty much all along and against Safi, I built a set with Att 7, Crit eye 7, Focus, WEX and Crit boost at 3 + partbreak 3
Then also Health 3, fire resist 3 and Defense 4 (for the sweet +3 element resist) + 2 piece Kulve for Guts
So I am basically only missing Agitator, but can easily survive Safi's grab and heal by myself if the other don't and I sometimes get his aggro, so all in all, it works great.

So yeah, Defense 7 is pointless. Some defensive skills are useful IMO, especially with strong elemental monsters, but overdoing it is bad. Balance is key.

[Shang Tsung]

To each their own , who cares ...