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kampfer91 Aug 2, 2020 @ 8:05pm
Can Alatreon be killed during Escaton Judgment ?
Recently i saw many trying to attack Ala when it does the Escaton Judgement instead of standing inside Health boost , some lead to quest fail because of no healing .

But can you kill Ala when it does the Nova though ?
Originally posted by 𝓇𝒾𝓃𝒶𝒶𝒶𝒶𝒶:
No you cannot, I already tested it 3 times using hunterpie. You can damage it but it's impossible to actually kill it while the animation still going. Same with raging it's a really stupid idea to script fights.
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kinda what they are trying to do is knock him out of it.
i think you only get one shot/retry for it
DoEFotGS Aug 2, 2020 @ 8:40pm 
Originally posted by kampfer91:
But can you kill Ala when it does the Nova though ?
Some animations can not be interrupted at all, include the fact that monsters have no HP. Game just lock em at 1 HP to the end of animation.

For example, Behemoth can't be killed while he cast Ecliptic Meteor last time and even during any other animation before that if he not used Ecliptic, because he must to cast Ecliptic at the end.

I'm not tried, but I'm sure that Alatreon Escaton Judgement works like that.
But I'm absolutely sure about another weird thing: if AI decide that Alatreon start to use EJ and being droolled after that - you can't topple him even treshold already falled beyond zero, game locked it to 1 and Alatreon immidiatly do an EJ after clagger was ended.
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No you cannot, I already tested it 3 times using hunterpie. You can damage it but it's impossible to actually kill it while the animation still going. Same with raging it's a really stupid idea to script fights.
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kampfer91 Aug 2, 2020 @ 8:52pm 
Oh , but you still can damage it no ? Though i think during the nova it is better to heal than to attack it .
Scorcher Aug 2, 2020 @ 8:55pm 
It's the same concept of breaking Kulve's horns before phase 4. The horns will remain at 0% and will then take damage at the last phase on next hit including pods.
Originally posted by kampfer91:
Oh , but you still can damage it no ? Though i think during the nova it is better to heal than to attack it .

Yes, you can damage it.
The nova takes so long that you can push a ton of dps, however you should stop the moment it starts to fly and eat the jerky, otherwise you have a high chance of dying, don't ask me how I know this stuff :lunar2019crylaughingpig:.
River Victor Aug 2, 2020 @ 9:33pm 
During the Eschaton Judgment animation, you can damage it until it's down to 1 HP and it will only die after the animation is complete.
Seamus Aug 2, 2020 @ 10:09pm 
Originally posted by ᴸᵘᴍɪᴋᴀ:
No you cannot, I already tested it 3 times using hunterpie. You can damage it but it's impossible to actually kill it while the animation still going. Same with raging it's a really stupid idea to script fights.
Don't act like scripts preventing monsters from dying before certain things happen is a new mechanic.

♥♥♥♥ knows I got Lao down to 1000hp before the final room enough times in Freedom Unite to know that's nothing new.
Washing Machine Aug 2, 2020 @ 10:25pm 
Good idea to attack anyway, since it's not like you take less damage being further away and the animation takes a good while.
kampfer91 Aug 2, 2020 @ 11:07pm 
Originally posted by Washing Machine:
Good idea to attack anyway, since it's not like you take less damage being further away and the animation takes a good while.
Well if you happen not to heal when it starts doing the nova , you gonna use up your party last cart...that happened to me.
Greb Aug 2, 2020 @ 11:19pm 
It'll probably be put to 1 HP at most, then die on the first damage tick after the move is finished. People attacking it is just the fight going well, usually. If everyone places their boosters, and doesn't need to sharpen their weapons, then bingo, you may as well attack it.

My group are always scattered when a nova attack begins, so instead of running around like headless chickens trying to group up, we have this "strat" where we all run to its head and place boosters right in front of it, so we always have a constant place to run. Usually that means a big opening to attack him, get at least one combo off, anyway.

Never seen him die during it, even though I've seen him die very shortly after his third nova this way, so yeah I'm assuming he's invincible during it. Happens in a lot of places I.E you can't kill monsters during turf wars, etc. They'll just get stuck at like 1 HP and die from a single stone afterwards.

If you're seeing people completely forsake health boosters / healing and just attack Alatreon during the nova though they're probably a little bit braindead or overconfident, lol.
Originally posted by Seamus:
Originally posted by ᴸᵘᴍɪᴋᴀ:
No you cannot, I already tested it 3 times using hunterpie. You can damage it but it's impossible to actually kill it while the animation still going. Same with raging it's a really stupid idea to script fights.
Don't act like scripts preventing monsters from dying before certain things happen is a new mechanic.

♥♥♥♥ knows I got Lao down to 1000hp before the final room enough times in Freedom Unite to know that's nothing new.

Hmm maybe my comment was misunderstood but I didn't meant to imply that the scripting was something new, just that it's a bad thing.

Originally posted by Greb:
It'll probably be put to 1 HP at most, then die on the first damage tick after the move is finished. People attacking it is just the fight going well, usually. If everyone places their boosters, and doesn't need to sharpen their weapons, then bingo, you may as well attack it.

My group are always scattered when a nova attack begins, so instead of running around like headless chickens trying to group up, we have this "strat" where we all run to its head and place boosters right in front of it, so we always have a constant place to run. Usually that means a big opening to attack him, get at least one combo off, anyway.

Never seen him die during it, even though I've seen him die very shortly after his third nova this way, so yeah I'm assuming he's invincible during it. Happens in a lot of places I.E you can't kill monsters during turf wars, etc. They'll just get stuck at like 1 HP and die from a single stone afterwards.

If you're seeing people completely forsake health boosters / healing and just attack Alatreon during the nova though they're probably a little bit braindead or overconfident, lol.

That's correct Alatreon will be at 1hp and you cannot damage it until it lands again.
You don't need boosters, just eat a turkey jerky the moment Alatreon starts to fly, of course that's assuming the nova was fully weakened.

Hitting Alatreon while it's powering up for the nova is a high risk, high reward strategy so it's not for everyone, specially those unfamiliar with the fight. You will never see me sitting there just watching the light show. I'll follow Alatreon, hit it until the very end where I'm forced to stop and eat :rbiggrin:.
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