Alatreon HH is nuts

[Senpai]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2163882987

Running 2 piece Alatreon x 3 piece Safi, with Element Attack Up 2 augment, Dragon Attack 6, Fire Resistance 3, song buffs, veggie platter, and wearing the dragonproof mantle. I get 1850 element and lots of purple. Dunno why others are saying Alatreon stuff is trash, just look at this thing

Shame dragon element isn't really that useful outside of a few monsters like Safi, metal Los/Ian, Ruiner Nerg, Blackveil, Banbaro (lol).

[r∞l]

Originally posted by Senpai:

Dunno why others are saying Alatreon stuff is trash, just look at this thing :LilyShining:

Shame dragon element isn't really that useful outside of a few monsters like Safi, metal Los/Ian, Ruiner Nerg, Blackveil, Banbaro (lol).

You answered your own question within the same comment lol.

[Senpai]

Originally posted by Lumika:

You answered your own question within the same comment lol.

How do I mark my own comment as the topic answer?

[Nerevar]

dragon sucks againist blackveil. the hunter notes are misleading on him. plus its only 2 stars on top. but he is actually fully IMMUNE to it until you break a part and hit that part. then it becomes 2 star weak to dragon just like regular vaal with 3 stars was.

metal raths are more weak to water and thunder elements aswell. ruiners dragon hitzones are garbage. raw is better for him and he is also 3 star weak to blast aswell so kinda moot when all raw weapons have blast by now on top.

safi is neutral to all elements and 3 star to blast aswell. dragon isnt good on safi. its the elderseal thats good on him but ala weapons seal amount is trash.

the only monster aside ala himself where dragon dmg really shines at endgame is pickle sadly. THATS IT. ala weapons just arent good. sad fact. they look cool tough mostly ill give em that.

if ala weapons had crit element on them they would be ALOT better imo. crit element is a 35% dmg increase flat roughly. not haveing that hurts them and kinda nullyfys thier higher element value as 2p velk is such utter trash currently. with AT velk gamma armor they might become more useful down the road. they really should have made atleast regular crit element a deco in iceborne. or a charm.

plus the number itself means nothing as its bloated element. just like the attack value is bloated. some weapons dont even reach 1000 element even with safi armor like LS. 1000 element is worth less than 40 true raw unless the monster has juicy dragon hitzones (3 stars) for example. plus the fact that dragon is a bad element in generel currently for the total rooster doesnt help it.

plus the bad timeing. we just got kulve upgrades for decay weapons which bring crit element with em and most of em have better true raw on top of haveing elemental values which are also quite high and the crit element pushes em ahead in the end with higher true raw.

its a real shame that ala weapons suck so hard but it was sadly expected that they would just copy and paste them over from old game where they had similar stats.

[Greb]

Originally posted by Senpai:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2163882987

Running 2 piece Alatreon x 3 piece Safi, with Element Attack Up 2 augment, Dragon Attack 6, Fire Resistance 3, song buffs, veggie platter, and wearing the dragonproof mantle. I get 1850 element and lots of purple. Dunno why others are saying Alatreon stuff is trash, just look at this thing :LilyShining:

Shame dragon element isn't really that useful outside of a few monsters like Safi, metal Los/Ian, Ruiner Nerg, Blackveil, Banbaro (lol).

[Senpai]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

the only monster aside ala himself where dragon dmg really shines at endgame is pickle sadly. THATS IT. ala weapons just arent good. sad fact. they look cool tough mostly ill give em that

Actually, dragon element is trash against Alatreon. Kiranico just updated the HZVs:
https://mhworld.kiranico.com/monsters/ErdcV/alatreon

Seems like the best all-rounder elements to go for are thunder or water. Welp.

[Senpai]

Originally posted by Greb:

Like this I guess?

[Ortaign]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

dragon sucks againist blackveil. the hunter notes are misleading on him. plus its only 2 stars on top. but he is actually fully IMMUNE to it until you break a part and hit that part. then it becomes 2 star weak to dragon just like regular vaal with 3 stars was.

metal raths are more weak to water and thunder elements aswell. ruiners dragon hitzones are garbage. raw is better for him and he is also 3 star weak to blast aswell so kinda moot when all raw weapons have blast by now on top.

safi is neutral to all elements and 3 star to blast aswell. dragon isnt good on safi. its the elderseal thats good on him but ala weapons seal amount is trash.

the only monster aside ala himself where dragon dmg really shines at endgame is pickle sadly. THATS IT. ala weapons just arent good. sad fact. they look cool tough mostly ill give em that.

if ala weapons had crit element on them they would be ALOT better imo. crit element is a 35% dmg increase flat roughly. not haveing that hurts them and kinda nullyfys thier higher element value as 2p velk is such utter trash currently. with AT velk gamma armor they might become more useful down the road. they really should have made atleast regular crit element a deco in iceborne. or a charm.

plus the number itself means nothing as its bloated element. just like the attack value is bloated. some weapons dont even reach 1000 element even with safi armor like LS. 1000 element is worth less than 40 true raw unless the monster has juicy dragon hitzones (3 stars) for example. plus the fact that dragon is a bad element in generel currently for the total rooster doesnt help it.

plus the bad timeing. we just got kulve upgrades for decay weapons which bring crit element with em and most of em have better true raw on top of haveing elemental values which are also quite high and the crit element pushes em ahead in the end with higher true raw.

its a real shame that ala weapons suck so hard but it was sadly expected that they would just copy and paste them over from old game where they had similar stats.

It's hilarious how in lore Dragon Element is supposed to be the end all be all of elements and yet in gameplay It doesn't even manage to be in the middle of the pack

[Zelph]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

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Its worth noting Ala's weapons have good raw, so you can still use them, dragon would just be a bonus on top of that. But with blast being so stupid good, its still not quite as good as safi or raging brach weapons.

[Polaris]

What songs does his hunting horn have?

(I have dooted very little, but I m learning here and there, I currently use the glavenous horn, cause mAh deeps!)

[Senpai]

Originally posted by Polaris:

What songs does his hunting horn have?

(I have dooted very little, but I m learning here and there, I currently use the glavenous horn, cause mAh deeps!)

Same song list as Elemental Melody IV:

-Self-improvement
-Sonic Waves
-Blight Res Up (AKA All Elemental Res Up)
-Elemental Attack Boost
-Blight Negated
-Earplugs (S) / Wind Pressure Negated
-Echo Wave "Dragon"
-Elemental Effectiveness Up