Karma lbg question

[Dukov]

So im trying to decide if masters charm for critical eye 3 would be better then a attack charm damage wise, my current build is karma, dragonking eyepatch, dober mail b, zorah claws b, nergigante coil b, diablos nero greaves b, masters charm 3. this gives me 5 attack boost, critical eye 3, weakness exploit 3, health boost 1 from gem, normal shots 1, piercing shots 1, free ele/ammo up 1, critical boost 1, maximum might 1. or maybe not even a damage charm, could I used it better elsewhere? im getting +10% affinity off the charm, my karma is at 65% exluding when I hit weak spots, which its prolly closer to 100% then. idk if the 10% affinity is worth not using another charm and dropping the affinity down to 55%

[Dukov]

I should also state the lbg is augmented for affinity

[Dukov]

gems are attack boost 1, piercing shots, critical boost,health boost, weakness exploit, maximum might

[SpartanHexus]

Given karma has 30% affinity on its own i'd augment it for damage or health. I'd combine maximum might (3 levels, each level gives 10% affinity when stamina is full) and weakness exploit to get the remaining affinity to 100, and then get attack skills or critical boost skills. 3 levels of weakness exploit and two levels on maximum might should cap 100% affinity on that lbg.

[Dukov]

That would put it at 100, but only with affinity augment, correct me if I'm wrong but 30 base, 30 from maximum, and crit boost goes to 30%, so 90, but switching gear I'd prolly lose my normal shots, and possibly even my pierce?

[SpartanHexus]

Weakness exploit 3 gives 50% affinity when you hit a monster part that is weak to the damage you're dealing. 2 levels of maximum might would give you 20% affinity. 50 + 30 + 20 = 100

All that without affinity augment.

Critical boost increases the damage of your crit hits, each level by 5%.

Its really grindy but what i'm using for karma is:

Dragon King Eyepatch -> critical jewel 2 (critical boost)

Dober mail B -> Forceshot Jewel (normal shot)

Kaiser Vambraces B -> Critical Jewel 2 (critical boost)

Nergigante coil B -> Critical Jewel 2 (critical boost)

Kirin Leg Guard -> Attack jewel 1 and trueshot jewel 1.

Karma lgb -> Trueshot jewel 1.

Mighty Charm 2.


This gives me:

Attack skill 5

Critical boost 3

Weakness exploit 3

free elem/ammo up 2

Special ammo boost 2 (increases wyvernblast damage, idk if its better than attack gems for overal dps but i can't test since i only have 1 attack gem)

Maximum might 2

Normal shots.

[Dukov]

Originally posted by SpartanHexus:

Weakness exploit 3 gives 50% affinity when you hit a monster part that is weak to the damage you're dealing. 2 levels of maximum might would give you 20% affinity. 50 + 30 + 20 = 100

Critical boost increases the damage of your crit hits, each level by 5%.

Its really grindy but what i'm using for karma is:

Dragon King Eyepatch -> critical jewel 2 (critical boost)

Dober mail B -> Forceshot Jewel (normal shot)

Kaiser Vambraces B -> Critical Jewel 2 (critical boost)

Nergigante coil B -> Critical Jewel 2 (critical boost)

Kirin Leg Guard -> Attack jewel 1 and trueshot jewel 1.

Karma lgb -> Trueshot jewel 1.

Mighty Charm 2.


This gives me:

Attack skill 5

Critical boost 3

Weakness exploit 3

free elem/ammo up 2

Special ammo boost 2 (increases wyvernblast damage, idk if its better than attack gems for overal dps but i can't test since i only have 1 attack gem)

Maximum might 2

Normal shots.

I actually got all those gems minus force shot, what's it do?

[SpartanHexus]

Originally posted by Gyro Zeppeli:

I actually got all those gems minus force shot, what's it do?

Normal shots skill. You can use pierce instead as well, idk how well karma does with pierce though.

[Dukov]

Originally posted by SpartanHexus:

Originally posted by Gyro Zeppeli:

I actually got all those gems minus force shot, what's it do?

Normal shots skill. You can use pierce instead as well, idk how well karma does with pierce though.

It's not bad at all, I use both of them [normal / pierce] idk though, normal two hits on a weak point for like 42 max for me, pierce hits down the middle for about 24 a hit, and on big ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I'm railing them like 10-15 times

[SpartanHexus]

Originally posted by Gyro Zeppeli:

Originally posted by SpartanHexus:

Normal shots skill. You can use pierce instead as well, idk how well karma does with pierce though.

It's not bad at all, I use both of them [normal / pierce] idk though, normal two hits on a weak point for like 42 max for me, pierce hits down the middle for about 24 a hit, and on big ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I'm railing them like 10-15 times

Something interesting for you to consider is using equipment loadouts (there is item pouch loadout and equipment). You can actually use loadouts to change bowgun mods and equipment decorations while you're hunting on the camps.

edit: So you can make a loadout with forceshot gem and one with pierce gem. And switch on the camp as you see fit.

[Spank me daddy]

Originally posted by Gyro Zeppeli:

Originally posted by SpartanHexus:

Normal shots skill. You can use pierce instead as well, idk how well karma does with pierce though.

It's not bad at all, I use both of them [normal / pierce] idk though, normal two hits on a weak point for like 42 max for me, pierce hits down the middle for about 24 a hit, and on big ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I'm railing them like 10-15 times

are you sure you're using karma????
cause my pierce only do 10 or 15 a hit

[Dukov]

Originally posted by SpartanHexus:

Originally posted by Gyro Zeppeli:

It's not bad at all, I use both of them [normal / pierce] idk though, normal two hits on a weak point for like 42 max for me, pierce hits down the middle for about 24 a hit, and on big ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I'm railing them like 10-15 times

Something interesting for you to consider is using equipment loadouts (there is item pouch loadout and equipment). You can actually use loadouts to change bowgun mods and equipment decorations while you're hunting on the camps.

I do use em, I use duals, greatsword ect, but I always use fast reload 3 on karma, granted I gotta go see if I can drop one for the rounds I use. I just use norm 2 and pierce 1, and sleep ect ect for cc. Should I be using normal shots 1? I only have the one point in it from grieves, but it only has 1 point, no?

[Spank me daddy]

Originally posted by Gyro Zeppeli:

Originally posted by SpartanHexus:

Something interesting for you to consider is using equipment loadouts (there is item pouch loadout and equipment). You can actually use loadouts to change bowgun mods and equipment decorations while you're hunting on the camps.

I do use em, I use duals, greatsword ect, but I always use fast reload 3 on karma, granted I gotta go see if I can drop one for the rounds I use. I just use norm 2 and pierce 1, and sleep ect ect for cc. Should I be using normal shots 1? I only have the one point in it from grieves, but it only has 1 point, no?

never use normal 1, ever

[SpartanHexus]

Karma normalshots 1 would hit like regular normalshots 2 without rapidfire. I'd say use that when you can't hit the enemy weakpoint, like nergigante spikes before he actually grows them, since its infinite i nail those horns with them before he grows the spikes, then i go normal 2 on the spikes.

Due to its high affinity karma comes with really low base damage, in my case i get good results with 3 close range mods and damage augmentations, then again i'm firing cc stuff or normal 1/2 so i don't need reload or recoil mods.

Normal Shots 1 has one point only, you're correct, the skill increases the damage of all normal shot ammo types. Normal shot 1, 2 and 3. If you have that skill then it will benefit any normalshot ammo you fire. Same goes for spread jewel and all spread ammo types and pierce jewel* and all pierce ammo types.

[Dukov]

Originally posted by SpartanHexus:

Karma normalshots 1 would hit like regular normalshots 2 without rapidfire. I'd say use that when you can't hit the enemy weakpoint, like nergigante spikes before he actually grows them, since its infinite i nail those horns with them before he grows the spikes, then i go normal 2 on the spikes.

Due to its high affinity karma comes with really low base damage, in my case i get good results with 3 close range mods and damage augmentations, then again i'm firing cc stuff or normal 1/2 so i don't need reload or recoil mods.

Normal Shots 1 has one point only, you're correct, the skill increases the damage of all normal shot ammo types. Normal shot 1, 2 and 3. If you have that skill then it will benefit any normalshot ammo you fire. Same goes for spread jewel and all spread ammo types and pierce jewel* and all pierce ammo types.

I actually got the pierce jewel, and spread, need to use armor for normal shots. I get ya though, since I'm no longer using spread, I could prolly drop reload, and switch em to close range to Jack up my damage, thoughts?

[Dukov]

I started with lbg , I've been using reload since the beginning, I'm hr 70 now. So I've never revisited that