Best Bow for Noobs?

[Bean]

im just starting the HR Rank Rathian? Whats the best bow to use from that starting point to Xeno Jiva?

[legacy_1]

Look for high elemental dmg bows since if you can't crit much the affinity is kinda useless. considering where you stand in the game atm. the dmg is much higher for high elemental dmg bows in these cases unless you can crit multiple times.

[sAVAA]

I basically did the whole game up to Nergigante with the Tobi bow and the legiana bows then once i got to nerg i farmed him till i could make his 2 bows, then used them to finish off the game swapping in and out of the 3 for whatever the elders were weak to.

[Catpuppy]

Tobi Kadachi bow is really good. Great affinity, good base, and thunder is by far the most common weakness.

[Nara]

Bow is boring... if you wanna do meaty hits and also be universally beloved then go hunting horn instead.

[UnhappyCLOWN]

Diablos bow for everything. If you want to use other stuff, fine. But if you ask what's "best" there's your answer.

[Stationary Traveller]

Timrod の投稿を引用：

You usually want to start with the Kadachi bow line until near the end of high rank. The Flying Kadachi Strikebow is actually kind of meh - low raw damage and relies on elemental weakness.

What you want to do is get the Villainous Brace now that Deviljho is out and use that for tempered elders as well as most general hunts. The reasons for this:

- Brace has the highest raw of any bow without decorations

- Brace also has decent dragon damage, meaning you can put on two pieces of Rath armor and a couple of dragon attack up gems (easy to find and can be melded) to do more damage.

- The only monster that completely resists Dragon is Black Diablos - no other monster can completely resist it.

- ALL elder dragons are weak to dragon damage.

What you want to aim for is four Warrior Streamstones to reduce the negative affinity down to -5%. You can then equip the Odogaron belt (or a Critical Eye deco) to give it neutral or slightly positive affinity.

...Do you realize he's barely HR and he won't have access to the augments that would make a raw bow decent for a very long time?
Meanwhile he will soon have access to the HR Rathalos armor that will allow him to make any elemental bow good until the end of the story and beyond.

[Master Blaster]

Dio-Mando の投稿を引用：

Vertutame の投稿を引用：

Just go with Diablos for general use, high raw damage.

diablos is trash for bow.

You serious or just horribly ignorant? Diablos is one of the top tier bow builds, you require the non element gem and then it becomes the most powerful raw damage bow available to us right now.

[Stationary Traveller]

Master Blaster の投稿を引用：

Dio-Mando の投稿を引用：

diablos is trash for bow.

You serious or just horribly ignorant? Diablos is one of the top tier bow builds, you require the non element gem and then it becomes the most powerful raw damage bow available to us right now.

The problem is that the most powerful raw bow is still worse than any elemental bow.

[Emily]

Moonmadness の投稿を引用：

Master Blaster の投稿を引用：

You serious or just horribly ignorant? Diablos is one of the top tier bow builds, you require the non element gem and then it becomes the most powerful raw damage bow available to us right now.

The problem is that the most powerful raw bow is still worse than any elemental bow.

Well technically Raw Damage Bow is good against certain kinds of Monsters (like Deviljho who seems to have very small weak points for bow) and is a good filler if the player is inexperienced with the weapon.

Elemental Bows have potentially the highest damage output in the game when used properly, but if he is inexperienced (which OP stated he is new to Bow) then he'll be doing a lot less damage overall.

[Master Blaster]

Moonmadness の投稿を引用：

Master Blaster の投稿を引用：

You serious or just horribly ignorant? Diablos is one of the top tier bow builds, you require the non element gem and then it becomes the most powerful raw damage bow available to us right now.

The problem is that the most powerful raw bow is still worse than any elemental bow.

again no its not, the problem is you need the gems to make the bow great, many builds exsist that are based around the coil bender, and its the bow for outputting steady dps no matter which monster you fight, so again if your in for the long haul Coil bender is a go to bow, some more info from reddit poster:

Cera Coilbender - The highest raw DMG of any bow in the game, the negative affinity is something you need to work around for sure, but once you manage that, ♥♥♥♥ gets dank.

Piercing Shots - This skill is a 10% boost to DP DMG output, it only comes on one piece of armor tho, that being Rath Soul Waist (Blue Rath), so a gem of it would be prefered if one exist, but I have not seen it yet myself.

Special Ammo boost - Lvl 2 of this skill will give another 20% DMG boost to DP, and is easily aquired through several armor pieces like Kaiser Chest (lvl2) or Angie gloves (lvl1) + gem or just use gems. This gem is a level 1 and isn't too rare, so it is easy to slot.

Weakness Exploit - This skill is a little problematic for the Coilbender. Witht he exception of like Bezelboop, you won't be hitting but one or two hits on a weakpoint with your DP. You will mostly be hitting raw shots, so the affinity boost from this is awesome when hitting a weakpoint, but half a second later it is useless, so, you can consider dropping this in favor of other raw affinity increases, such as Crit eye and the like, to help negate the negative affinity on your bow to maximize the output anyway, but if you're fighting Bezelboop, you want WE, it turns him into walking number porn. Rather you go for WE or not is up to you, just understand that you have to trade some DMG on the backend to get it normally, unless you have great gems.

Attack Boost - This is a no brainer, this needs to be as high as you can manage. It is raw DMG output no matter where you hit your target.

Non-Elemental boost - Of course, again a no brainer. Raw DMG increase.

Food Buff Attack (L) - You always want this, it is a free DMG boost than can be stacked with your Demon powder/Might seeds.

Power shot skill - This skill is awesome for when in areas with walls you can run up, the DMG output on it is insane and will out DMG your DPs when you are in the right area with walls you can constantly dash up for a free shot of 400-700 DMG drop. Do NOT forget this skill, it can be aquired through a level 3 gem slot, or Lavasioth boots.

Honestly, until you get an affinity boost on your Coilbender, I'd ignore Weakness exploit and focus the Crit Eye up to help balance out the DMG on the backend of the shot, where you will be hitting negative crits otherwise. Once you have the affinity augment, you can drop a couple levels of Crit Eye for some WE through gems or armor, there are plenty of armor parts with WE on them, so working it in later isn't too tricky. Oh, and bring your affinity booster and ROcksteady mantle. They really help for when you decide you need to not be disturbed while you deeps. Just be aware, you still take DMG with the mantle on, it is easy to get cocky while wearing it and take a tempered smash to the face and be out of combat for the next 10 seconds healing yourself up, wasting your time on target.

[MaltyPop]

Get Legiana and Anjanath bow.

[Master Blaster]

Oh right he's still new, well I will tell you this much, Ive been playing now for about almost a month and I was using the coilbender within the second week after I got a non elemental gem , my friend explained its ussage and told me about the coilbender, so I got it and its hands down my favorite bow, I wish I knew about it sooner so I would have worked towards it much faster, so maybe the info will help you, but now that I'm HR 85 Ive been able to get a ton of high currency quests and funds are no longer and issue, so I switched over to LBG and am having a blast with it, the ammo dependency is higher than bow but its versitilty is so much better.

[Stationary Traveller]

Master Blaster の投稿を引用：

Moonmadness の投稿を引用：

The problem is that the most powerful raw bow is still worse than any elemental bow.

again no its not, the problem is you need the gems to make the bow great, many builds exsist that are based around the coil bender, and its the bow for outputting steady dps no matter which monster you fight, so again if your in for the long haul Coil bender is a go to bow, some more info from reddit poster:

Cera Coilbender - The highest raw DMG of any bow in the game, the negative affinity is something you need to work around for sure, but once you manage that, ♥♥♥♥ gets dank.

Piercing Shots

Special Ammo boost

Yeah, you pretty much spelled it out. This is a build made around DP, which is the only good thing a raw bow can do over an elemental bow. About "outputting steady dps", elemental bows do that way more consistently and for more damage, and the only cost is that you have to build more than one bow.
The only other usage of Cera Coilbender is in speedrunning, but it's unsurprisingly backed by affinity booster, evasion mantle and the wallrun cheese.
Don't be that lazy guy that tries to use a one size fits all for a weapon that is not made for it. Farm those Rath pieces and those Anja/Kadachi/etc bows, it's totally worth it.

[Smug Kot]

Master Blaster の投稿を引用：

Moonmadness の投稿を引用：

The problem is that the most powerful raw bow is still worse than any elemental bow.

again no its not, the problem is you need the gems to make the bow great, many builds exsist that are based around the coil bender, and its the bow for outputting steady dps no matter which monster you fight, so again if your in for the long haul Coil bender is a go to bow, some more info from reddit poster:

Cera Coilbender - The highest raw DMG of any bow in the game, the negative affinity is something you need to work around for sure, but once you manage that, ♥♥♥♥ gets dank.

Piercing Shots - This skill is a 10% boost to DP DMG output, it only comes on one piece of armor tho, that being Rath Soul Waist (Blue Rath), so a gem of it would be prefered if one exist, but I have not seen it yet myself.

Special Ammo boost - Lvl 2 of this skill will give another 20% DMG boost to DP, and is easily aquired through several armor pieces like Kaiser Chest (lvl2) or Angie gloves (lvl1) + gem or just use gems. This gem is a level 1 and isn't too rare, so it is easy to slot.

Weakness Exploit - This skill is a little problematic for the Coilbender. Witht he exception of like Bezelboop, you won't be hitting but one or two hits on a weakpoint with your DP. You will mostly be hitting raw shots, so the affinity boost from this is awesome when hitting a weakpoint, but half a second later it is useless, so, you can consider dropping this in favor of other raw affinity increases, such as Crit eye and the like, to help negate the negative affinity on your bow to maximize the output anyway, but if you're fighting Bezelboop, you want WE, it turns him into walking number porn. Rather you go for WE or not is up to you, just understand that you have to trade some DMG on the backend to get it normally, unless you have great gems.

Attack Boost - This is a no brainer, this needs to be as high as you can manage. It is raw DMG output no matter where you hit your target.

Non-Elemental boost - Of course, again a no brainer. Raw DMG increase.

Food Buff Attack (L) - You always want this, it is a free DMG boost than can be stacked with your Demon powder/Might seeds.

Power shot skill - This skill is awesome for when in areas with walls you can run up, the DMG output on it is insane and will out DMG your DPs when you are in the right area with walls you can constantly dash up for a free shot of 400-700 DMG drop. Do NOT forget this skill, it can be aquired through a level 3 gem slot, or Lavasioth boots.

Honestly, until you get an affinity boost on your Coilbender, I'd ignore Weakness exploit and focus the Crit Eye up to help balance out the DMG on the backend of the shot, where you will be hitting negative crits otherwise. Once you have the affinity augment, you can drop a couple levels of Crit Eye for some WE through gems or armor, there are plenty of armor parts with WE on them, so working it in later isn't too tricky. Oh, and bring your affinity booster and ROcksteady mantle. They really help for when you decide you need to not be disturbed while you deeps. Just be aware, you still take DMG with the mantle on, it is easy to get cocky while wearing it and take a tempered smash to the face and be out of combat for the next 10 seconds healing yourself up, wasting your time on target.

TL,DR: The answer its not

elemental will be always better than raw in bows unless you are doing a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ TA with perfect timming and place to exploit the ONLY MOVE that have enought motion scaling to abuse the raw of diablos (Pro tip: isnt dragon pierce).

if we are talking about min-max build then again elemental > raw.

[Xilo The Odd]

cant go wrong with diablos bow, its power can make up for not having element on it if you've got an elementless gem to put in your armor. from there its all in how you want to play it, you want to pierce spam? evade charge every shot? fire only power shots and stick to close range?

every weapon has a purpose, but only a few are to waste your time and money xP.