Alatreon fight, what you should do / improve.

[Shai]

Many people are complaining about the fight being bs with the ELEMENTAL dps check or that his attack are bs or that the fight overall is unfair.

Instead of blaming the game/devs why don't you start questioning yourself about what you're doing wrong and how to improve.

- First the armor.

Safi Beta (full set) is mandatory because it raises your affinity, raw and elemental damage by quite a lot + you regain health after a set amount of attack dealt to any target.

- The Skill.

Critical eye lvl7
(element) attack at max lvl
Health boost lvl3
Recovery up lvl3
Critical boost lvl3 (<= comes with safi armor)
Evade window lvl3 (<= comes with safi armor)
Evade extender lvl3
Blight Resistance lvl3

(you can put resentment lvl5 if you want to go full dps, I don't want to because it's a lot less comfy but it's up to you to sacrifice evade extender)

-The items.

Potion x10
Mega potion x10
Max potion x2
Ancient potion x1
Mandragora x10
Mega nutriment x5
Nutriment x10
Honey x10
Life powder x3
Dust of life
Astera Jerky <= they instantly heal the red part of your health which is going to be very useful against his nova

- The weapon(s).

The Kjarr weapons are a MUST against him because they have HIGH elemental damage + critical element.

If you don't have them, the safi weapons can also do the trick.

You have few option here, you have Dual Blades, Longsword, Charge Blade (elemental power only) and LBG (elemental only) are very effective against Alatreon.
You can also take the Insect glaive if you're familiar enough with it.

Why not Great sword, hammer, gunlance, lance, HBG, . . . they do not benefit much from elemental damage and for the bow, it's just that the hitzone are meh for ranged weapons.

- The elements that you should be using.

Alatreon is in his Fire State?
Use Ice (best) and/or Water (alright) and/or Dragon (alright)

Alatreon is in his Dragon State?
Use Dragon, he is extremely weak to dragon in this state.

Alatreon is in his Ice state?
Use Fire (best) and/or Thunder (alright) and/or Dragon (alright)

if you do not have any Ice or Fire weapon use a Dragon one, the damage won't be as high but it will be consistent.

- His attacks.

I highly recommend that you start with one or two quest where you observe his moveset because most people complain about them, they deal a LOT of damage, it's Alatreon, a Black Dragon, an end game monster of course he's going to deal a lot of damage so get familiar with him and his attacks.

Once you get the hang of it, they become very predictible

-The fight and mechanic.

I made a mistake by saying in the comment that breaking the horn is not necessary, it actually is, I didn't notice it because everytime I fought I broke his horn everytime so I didn't know it has anything to do with the fight.

Here is how it goes.

During the quest, when you first encounter him, he will be in his fire state, if you deal enough elemental damage to him he will fall and his nova will deal less damage BUT after a few minutes he will go into his dragon state and you have to break one of his horn while he is in that state otherwise he will go into his ice state and here's your first problem :


if everyone has an ice weapon, you're not going to deal any elemental damage to him (because he will be in ice state so he's immune to ice damage, it makes sense) that's why you have to break one of his horn before he reaches his ice state.


If you do break one of his horn he will go back in his Fire state and you will have to repeat that all over again => deal enough elemental damage => break one of his horn.

But then you may think,
What happen when both horns are broken?
By that point, Alatreon should be near death so you shouldn't worry about him switching state but if you are not confident enough about being able to kill him before he switches to his ice state, half of your team should take ice weapons and the other half should take fire weapons.

-The elemental dps check.

Just like Kulve taroth, Behemoth and Safi'Jiiva, Alatreon has a dps check BUT his is different from the others, because his dps check is only an elemental dps check.
Forget about blast, sleep, poison, para, your best bet are Ice, Dragon, Thunder and Fire.

Everytime you reach the said dps check Alatreon will have a very distinct falling animation as well as the handler saying that some of his power has been blocked.

But be careful because it doesn't mean that he isn't going to do his nova, it just means that his nova is going to deal a lot less damage so use those jerky.


That's pretty much it, the fight, once you get the hang of it, is amazing, one of the best of the Iceborne.


Stay persistent, happy hunting and remember, Alatreon is supposed to be challenging.

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Wait.
So I don't have to focus on breaking the horn?
Just deal high enough elemental dps and it'll weaken it's nova?

[Shai]

Originally posted by Pay:

Wait.
So I don't have to focus on breaking the horn?
Just deal high enough elemental dps and it'll weaken it's nova?

If you break one of it's horn you will lock him for a while in the state he was when you broke it.

Broken during the fire state => stuck in the fire state for a while
Broken during the ice state => stuck in the ice state for a while
Etc, etc.

[Zer0Shade]

You forget one important detail: Being locked to specific builds isn't fun. That's what people are complaining about.

For the record, I have no issues beating Alatreon. I've already done it several times both in solo and duo. I know how the fight works and that still doesn't make the elemental dps check any less annoying.

[cruste]

he was already absolutley destroyed in around 8 mins by this bata guy
they used ala lbg, 2 db and a swag

[Shai]

Originally posted by Zer0Shade:

You forget one important detail: Being locked to specific builds isn't fun. That's what people are complaining about.

For the record, I have no issues beating Alatreon. I've already done it several times both in solo and duo. I know how the fight works and that still doesn't make the elemental dps check any less annoying.

We will have to deal with it unfortunately, they want us to use more elemental based weapon against 1 monster in the whole game, I believe we can do it and if we can't, well we still have 69 other monsters (68 minues frozen barrioth) to hunt.

[cruste]

Originally posted by Shai:

Originally posted by Pay:

Wait.
So I don't have to focus on breaking the horn?
Just deal high enough elemental dps and it'll weaken it's nova?

If you break one of it's horn you will lock him for a while in the state he was when you broke it.

Broken during the fire state => stuck in the fire state for a while
Broken during the ice state => stuck in the ice state for a while
Etc, etc.

we already broke both horns and he was still spamming lightning fire and ice...

[Shai]

Originally posted by Atheist:

https://imgur.com/F6nqC99

cool story bro

Thank you for your very useful comment, keep going!

[Shai]

Originally posted by cruste:

Originally posted by Shai:

If you break one of it's horn you will lock him for a while in the state he was when you broke it.

Broken during the fire state => stuck in the fire state for a while
Broken during the ice state => stuck in the ice state for a while
Etc, etc.

we already broke both horns and he was still spamming lightning fire and ice...

Only his elemental resistance changes while he switches state, not his attacks.
(as well as some hitzones)

[Inuakurei]

Originally posted by Zer0Shade:

You forget one important detail: Being locked to specific builds isn't fun. That's what people are complaining about.

For the record, I have no issues beating Alatreon. I've already done it several times both in solo and duo. I know how the fight works and that still doesn't make the elemental dps check any less annoying.

I don't get why people are calling this an annoying mechanic. Its literally just do damage. It's honestly not all that hard.

[astranabeat]

I think most people only has problem in MP. damage check is so high. if 1 person not do enough element damage then you loss because he just 3 cart you.

Solo not really a problem because if you play well you can eat nova 2 time before you loss. so 18 minute if you can't pass even 1 damage check. and you can eat to get 2 more cart. so total 5 cart that mean 30 minute. he not that hard.

[Waffles]

I can't take this guide seriously.

Safi armor is not MANDATORY, I solo'd with a crit element build.
Safi armor will drain your health, increasing the chances of wasting a precious cart.
Unless you're a god(let's be honest, most of us are trash), Safi armor is actually detrimental to use.

[Inuakurei]

Originally posted by astranabeat:

I think most people only has problem in MP. damage check is so high. if 1 person not do enough element damage then you loss because he just 3 cart you.

Solo not really a problem because if you play well you can eat nova 2 time before you loss. so 18 minute if you can't pass even 1 damage check. and you can eat to get 2 more cart. so total 5 cart that mean 30 minute. he not that hard.

4 man group survives nova with one of them using a blast weapon[clips.twitch.tv]

[Shai]

Originally posted by Gen:

I can't take this guide seriously.

Safi armor is not MANDATORY, I solo'd with a crit element build.
Safi armor will drain your health, increasing the chances of wasting a precious cart.
Unless you're a god(let's be honest, most of us are trash), Safi armor is actually detrimental to use.

It depends on your overall build
I use it with health regen.
The safi armor bonus buff your overall damage by the same amount (+/-) than the silver rath and on top of that it also increase your affinity so you don't need weakness exploit.

The safi armor doesn't have any elemental weakness.

It has high defense when fully maxed out.

You can regain your health by constantly attacking and with recovery up it's fantastic.


That was my own opinion and I still stand by it but you play the game however you want to.