flinching...

[Let G11 Sleep]

I see a lot of complaints about LS flinching other players. For those complaining, I think it would be really shocking to tell you that ALL weapons can flinch (I know, right?). Flashback to the good old days of bow rocks flinching every melee player ever. Jokes aside.

IMO main issue with LS flinching is the weapon design. Almost all its combo involves swinging the sword in a wide radius. When you are busy avoiding the monster attacks and squeezing in a combo during openings, you don't have a lot of time to position yourself so you can hit the monster and not hit the players. What's more, unlike monster actions, players movement is unpredictable. Sure maybe you won't hit others for the first few hits, but you will hit someone sooner or later. With all other weapons you can control because the attack range is small/you can aim the direction of attacks, but it's nearly impossible for LS.

Now when the monster is down, everyone WILL hit the closest weak spot they can reach, usually heads or tails. I NEVER see any players (any weapon) willingly hit a grey area just so their teammate without flinch free can peacefully enjoy their orange numbers (unless they couldn't make it to the weak spot in time). So players will inevitably hit the same spot, and complaining LS and Hammer hitting heads, is the same as Lance and DB hitting tails: one would flinch the other without FF.

Monster downtime is precious to deal as much damage as possible, and with the tenderizing mechanic everyone is encouraged to hit the same spot more. Also big numbers = fun. Imagine you are the one flinching others: would you willingly waste a opening to get grey 50-100 damage, just so your teammate can keep the weak spot for themselves and finish their 1000 damage combo? You wouldn't enjoy that either. In ideal scenarios, there is another weak spot nearby so you could go for that to avoid flinching, but a lot of times there isn't.

So one side doesn't want to be flinched out of combo, the other side doesn't want to waste DPS openings just so another player can continue their attacks. How to create a win-win solution for both?

1. If you are the victim, Flinch Free.
   
2. If you cause others to flinch, take note and try not to go the same area as the player without FF. Although sometimes the situation makes it impossible for you to do so, so it's not 100%.
   
3. If you get flinched but don't want to use FF, avoid playing with all players that tend to flinch you. Which is basically everyone in SOS.
   
4. If you are using heavy weapon, try tenderizing other parts so that everyone has more places to attack instead of clustering in the same spot and flinching everyone. Most weapons that flinch others are light weapons, and let's face it, it is annoying to keep parts tenderized with light weapons. Since it is best for light weapon players to be a team player and not flinch others with attacks, you could be a team player as well by helping them tenderize in the first place.

For me, I play Hammer, I play Charge Blade, I play Lance, I play HH. I used to get flinched pretty often by all weapons in the game. Can't help it, randoms are randoms anyways. So what did I do? I sacrificed one or two points of Focus/Critical Eye/KO/Attack Boost just so I can get one point in FF. All my Safi weapons' Slot 4 is used for Brace/Vitality deco. 0.1% less damage for a peace of mind in SOS.

Now, launching other players away purposely just to disrupt their attacks, for reasons other than helping mount or for fun, is evil and the person launching should be sent to the deepest depths of hell. Same with wyvern blasters, cluster bombers that do so intentionally.

[Popcorn]

Omfg.

Welp, popcorn is the first comment guys.

[Abi Normal]

Originally posted by Vaisnac:

Omfg.

Welp, popcorn is the first comment guys.

le sigh

extra salt, mate. Ready for the next trainwreck

[CourtesyFlush09]

bruh

[Juliane_L]

Originally posted by Abi Normal:

Originally posted by Vaisnac:

Omfg.

Welp, popcorn is the first comment guys.

le sigh

extra salt, mate. Ready for the next trainwreck

[Popcorn]

Originally posted by Abi Normal:

Originally posted by Vaisnac:

Omfg.

Welp, popcorn is the first comment guys.

le sigh

extra salt, mate. Ready for the next trainwreck

Vroom vroom, imma race ya to death

Edit: I'll let this pile up and read it later

[Let G11 Sleep]

Can't help it, popcorn is the only thing that keeps me going

[JamesFace]

My god, how many is this in the last few days alone? It's getting a little repetitive now.

[Fraktal]

I shouldn’t have to cater to lazy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ when I have FF1 in EVERY SINGLE build I have saved.

Luckily for others I main GL which isn’t a top flinching weapon.

And no I don’t spam Wyvernfire at people either.

[Manticore]

Originally posted by Vaisnac:

Omfg.

Welp, popcorn is the first comment guys.

Here
And some coffees and cakes too if any of you want

[Aerond]

What have you done...

[Maiden Lightlina]

Originally posted by JamesFace:

My god, how many is this in the last few days alone? It's getting a little repetitive now.

Get used to it, they will keep poping up untill people realize you aren't going to change how the entire playerbase plays.

Which is never. it seems. as always it's much easier to whine and complain then take the easy fix.

[Manticore]

Originally posted by JamesFace:

My god, how many is this in the last few days alone? It's getting a little repetitive now.

Let them be, finding an entertainment is a bit difficult since quarantine, i am sure this is how they are having fun

[Raven]

Originally posted by JamesFace:

My god, how many is this in the last few days alone? It's getting a little repetitive now.

Kid, this has been going on for as long as LS has been in the series, so for the past 14 years. It won't be ending anytime soon either...

[𝓇𝒾𝓃𝒶𝒶𝒶𝒶𝒶]

I'll just leave this here.
https://youtu.be/YypVLzFhHy4?t=232

3:52
#justkickthem .

[Maiden Lightlina]

Originally posted by ꧁Bunnyosaurus꧂:

I'll just leave this here.
https://youtu.be/YypVLzFhHy4?t=232

3:52
#justkickthem :mhwgood:.

Still here defending the cry baby crowed i see,

You can also equip the deco to stop it, like a mature person would, but how many times must this lesson be taught to you.

And i would prefer if you don't leave your trash here, as that video doesn't help since almost no one random follows made up rules. and kicking them because you're too lazy and stubborn actually makes you look like the A-Hole.