MR Kulve is bad design

[Nertaku]

1. Just taking the siege and form it into a normal quest is lazy.
2. The time limit IN the time limit is just anoying. For anyone NOT playing high dps builds it is frustrating. Me and my friends want to play like we enjoy it. But it is not possible.
3. The armor and weapons are not even worth all that stress. Not even new skins for the weapons and the armor abilities are just meh.

[Serrassi Effect]

I agree with Time limit, but it's a good fight Imo. Also some of the weapons are amazing and meta for the elemental style but weak for raw style

[Sin]

1. How else would you do it? Do you have a design concept that would be better as an alternative?
2. I agree that can be frustrating. But it's end-game content, you shouldn't expect fun builds to be able to clear it easily.
3. Debatable. The Leg armour is identical to Raging Brachy Legs in terms of skill and slot power. Some of the weapons are BIS for elemental builds.

[Hare+Guu!]

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I've cleared it solo with this. It's not even a high dps set or even remotely close to perfect gameplay.

It also gives top tier armor fashion, which I even used in that run. There's a clear line between being casual, and not even giving any real effort.

It's not like you even need to finish the quest to get any of her items. All you need is to break parts and pick up the countless shinies. You can just abandon afterwards. Afaik, you can even get her mantle in a random drop.

[𝓇𝒾𝓃𝒶𝒶𝒶𝒶𝒶]

- No it's not, they are actually listening to the community by avoiding another siege.
The majority doesn't like the siege mechanic as it forces you to join a discord, play by their rules or take a gamble an join the SoS roulette that 90% of time will end up in failure.

- You get about 20 mins for the whole quest, that's plenty of time for the average player. Meme builds can only get you so far, the dps checks are not hard to reach, you can even switch builds.

-The armor is meh but we're already too strong, if they continue to add more powercreep things will get out of control.

The raw wps are not great as Safi is the current endgame meta, having every new quest just out dps it would be dumb.
The elemental wps are very competitive and in most cases out dps safi.

[Nertaku]

Originally posted by Sin:

1. How else would you do it? Do you have a design concept that would be better as an alternative?
2. I agree that can be frustrating. But it's end-game content, you shouldn't expect fun builds to be able to clear it easily.
3. Debatable. The Leg armour is identical to Raging Brachy Legs in terms of skill and slot power. Some of the weapons are BIS for elemental builds.

1. Build a new arena thats in the style of the siege. But not just copy and paste.
2. I never said that it should be easy. But it should be doable even with non meta/high dps builds.
3. Some weapons. Like 5 or so. Yeah great. And for the armor, I meant the set bonus. Sry for being not clear about that.

[Serrassi Effect]

Yeah Mr kulve armor has weak set bonuses, but it has some great pieces.

Not every new set of weapon can be the new meta. Sometimes you need new sets that are more focused on things that aren't the meta.

I'm sure elemental style sns support players are thrilled for the Mr kulve set

[Varagonax]

Originally posted by Serrassi Effect:

Yeah Mr kulve armor has weak set bonuses, but it has some great pieces.

Not every new set of weapon can be the new meta. Sometimes you need new sets that are more focused on things that aren't the meta.

I'm sure elemental style sns support players are thrilled for the Mr kulve set

Is the kulve set better then a 4 pice nams, one piece velkhana and a velkhana divinity safi weapon? cuz if it is I think itll be worth the farm, but if its roughly equal I might not

[Serrassi Effect]

Kulve MR set bonuses are just Guts 2 pieces and Free meal secret 4p. its mostly geared toward a support style with added damage skills.

[Xedhadeaus]

I'm happy it became an event quest. I hate the seiges.

[Fregi]

1 - People didn't like the way her siege worked, so Capcom listened and just turned it into an event quest, much simpler.

2 - I've never had her run away in the middle of the quest yet.

3 - Her armor is extremely good for a support build.
While her gear isn't that good for raw damage builds, she is, however, the new element queen. Charge blades, Dual blades, Bows, all of them. They're all using Kulve weapons now, due to inherent critical element allowing for more flexible builds (Dragonvein awakening!)

[stealthdriver]

Love the fight, especially solo if you dare to complete it. It emphasizes a balance between dps and survivability. It shows you that your build is too defense based: need to play "not to die" but " to win" .

[Sturm]

Originally posted by Nightmare151188:

1. Build a new arena thats in the style of the siege. But not just copy and paste.
2. I never said that it should be easy. But it should be doable even with non meta/high dps builds.
3. Some weapons. Like 5 or so. Yeah great. And for the armor, I meant the set bonus. Sry for being not clear about that.

1. Mostly opinion, but I don't think it would really make sense to fight her anywhere else anyway, and would detract the aspect of 'returning to kill her'.
2. It IS doable with non-meta/high DPS builds. Make use of wallbangs in each area, the rock drop, and well timed mount(s) and it's not even that difficult to solo or do as a team.
3. 2 piece Guts has some potential use for Heroics set-ups. 4 piece Free Meal is laughable though, compared to Tigrex. Outside of the decent number of weapons that are significant upgrades, there are still some decent options that aren't far behind Safi weapons either. The definitely aren't better, but we really don't need to obsolete Safi completely for every weapon this soon. I'm personally glad none of my most-used weapons got straight upgrades from KT.

[Crusader]

This is coming from someone who unlike most people, hated everything about kulve taroth since the beginning.

Overall I think it’s better than regular KT or AT KT. But safi is way more fun to fight with melee, kulve is a massive anti melee sign walking around and I despise fighting her with melee weapons. She moves too much, loves to spam moves hit a large area unlike safi who has a lot of precise attacks such as focus beams to target ranged players instead. Anyone defending the dps check, just stop. It says 50 minutes on the quest board, it should be 50 minutes. I don’t get why every fight needs to be Extreme Behemoth where you have to reach certain damage thresholds to complete the hunt. The armor wasn’t disappointing to me at all, it’s actually exactly what I expected, a support set. And it keeps some of the taroth weapons relevant still.

I still despise the rng system from her. Even though I finally have the weapons I neeeded.

Overall, it could’ve been a lot worse, but the rng really needs to get safi’s system injected into it. It’s still absolute garbage. And the dps check is pointless. Also another thing is that even though you can solo it much easier now, multiplayer with a group that doesn’t suck is much faster and more efficient. So I still prefer fighting her in MP.

[Crusader]

Originally posted by Sturm:

Originally posted by Nightmare151188:

1. Build a new arena thats in the style of the siege. But not just copy and paste.
2. I never said that it should be easy. But it should be doable even with non meta/high dps builds.
3. Some weapons. Like 5 or so. Yeah great. And for the armor, I meant the set bonus. Sry for being not clear about that.

1. Mostly opinion, but I don't think it would really make sense to fight her anywhere else anyway, and would detract the aspect of 'returning to kill her'.
2. It IS doable with non-meta/high DPS builds. Make use of wallbangs in each area, the rock drop, and well timed mount(s) and it's not even that difficult to solo or do as a team.
3. 2 piece Guts has some potential use for Heroics set-ups. 4 piece Free Meal is laughable though, compared to Tigrex. Outside of the decent number of weapons that are significant upgrades, there are still some decent options that aren't far behind Safi weapons either. The definitely aren't better, but we really don't need to obsolete Safi completely for every weapon this soon. I'm personally glad none of my most-used weapons got straight upgrades from KT.

Point 3: heroics secret is only a 5% damage increase to your base true raw compared felyne heroics which you can eat for at the canteen for free and no they don’t stack. If you’re going for a heroics setup, you would be going for that instead of sacrificing 80% of your set for heroics secret. So no, not really.

[Sturm]

Originally posted by Araki The Iraqi:

Point 3: heroics secret is only a 5% damage increase to your base true raw compared felyne heroics which you can eat for at the canteen for free and no they don’t stack. If you’re going for a heroics setup, you would be going for that instead of sacrificing 80% of your set for heroics secret. So no, not really.

I didn't say anything about Heroics Secret
I said Guts, which is the 2 piece skill on KT's armor