so is there any tarot or kjarr weapon that's worth to upgrade?

[Endarion]

i only had the LS (kjarr decay and taroth sword fire) and overall they don't really seem worth to upgrade

are other weapons better?

[Run Ha]

kjaar CB ice is upgrade but lose sharpness and slot. but kjaar cb water that one is nice, the white sharpness is so long that you can compensate lost slot by replacing razor sharp charm. in my opinion.

about other element, i ll copy that guy above. (that is the reason i comment anyway)

[The High Seraph]

Bows
Fire - Kjarr King
Ice - Kjarr Stream
Thunder - Taroth Arrow Thunder
Dragon - Kjarr Decay
Water - Safi Aqua Bow ( Actually , Both Taroth Water and Kjarr Water have really good stats , but lacks of power coating hurts .. a lot )

Kjarr King is the most dramatic one .. it was outright ♥♥♥♥ in High rank and lived under the dominance of Anja Arch III . Now comeback as meta .

CB
Now all elemental CB s are worth replacing with Kjarrs . With having build in crit element , u can play both SAED spam and Savage Axe playstyle by just wearing full safi set .

DB
All elemental DBs can replace with Kjarr except Fire , meh Blue Sharpness .

Switch Axes
According to JPM , Kjarr Ice and Thunder are amazing . Next water and fire is the least improvement. Donno about dragon .

HBG
Elemental HBGs are great with Kjarr .

LBG
N2 RF Support is back

LS
TSF is dead now . But Decay seems decent against dragon weak monsters . Your SHB will be weaker but can be compensate with normal slashes

I donno about other weapons .

[bassforte123]

Why is there so much hype around the Ice CB compared to the other elements? I got a Dragon Kjarr for example, is there any reason not to upgrade that one in favor of Ice?

[Dyvawn]

note that some weapons have really thin white sharpness, you'll drop to blue in around 10 hits if you're not using protective polish or master touch.

[rina]

Originally posted by bassforte123:

Why is there so much hype around the Ice CB compared to the other elements? I got a Dragon Kjarr for example, is there any reason not to upgrade that one in favor of Ice?

The damage you can reach is quite high.
From what I've seen all the element cb are worth the upgrade.

[StarExile]

I mostly use 5 types of weapons: IG, DB, LS, GS and Hammer. After quick session with few kills of Kulve, i checked how all those weps looks like in max upgrade...And only DBs are worth something, but still not that great as Safis weapons.
And thats a good thing.
Imagine, we waste so much time on Safis siege, upgrading all those weapons and boom, new monster came out and all our work is complete waste? Not gonna happen.

Safis weapons are way better than Kulve.

[TyresTyco]

Originally posted by bassforte123:

Why is there so much hype around the Ice CB compared to the other elements? I got a Dragon Kjarr for example, is there any reason not to upgrade that one in favor of Ice?

The amount of monsters really really weak to dragon is so small that it isn't worth at all. I actually have no ib monster in mind, lol.

[Fraktal]

Originally posted by TyresTyco:

Originally posted by bassforte123:

Why is there so much hype around the Ice CB compared to the other elements? I got a Dragon Kjarr for example, is there any reason not to upgrade that one in favor of Ice?

The amount of monsters really really weak to dragon is so small that it isn't worth at all. I actually have no ib monster in mind, lol.

Both flying turkeys are weak to dragon. Their variants as well.

[TyresTyco]

Originally posted by The Orange and Blue Ninja:

Originally posted by TyresTyco:

The amount of monsters really really weak to dragon is so small that it isn't worth at all. I actually have no ib monster in mind, lol.

Both flying turkeys are weak to dragon. Their variants as well.

Yeah ofc. But these arent monsters you fight a lot in IB. Using dragon just for them also doesnt seem like it's worth.

For Savage you take thunder mostly.. for ruiner nerg raw . Okay safi maybe. But thats it. Dragon element surely got shafted the most.

[Raven]

Originally posted by GameSuki:

For me all the kjar bows replaced my safijiva bow builds (5 set safi vs 4set s.rath)
All DBs except for fire replaced safijiva DB (5set safi vs 3set safi+ 2 velkhana) because fire db have really bad sharpness
Ice CB. I haven't tested other charge blades yet.
Seems like most elemental weapons are better on kjarr as a general rule

The insanely high stats (aside for sharpness, of course) are actually enough to compensate for the blue the DB has. I was surprised by it myself. Just spam the ♥♥♥♥ out of the Demon Dance or learn to hit weakspots, and bouncing won't be an issue even if you don't have Mind's Eye deco.

[Raven]

Originally posted by TyresTyco:

Originally posted by The Orange and Blue Ninja:

Both flying turkeys are weak to dragon. Their variants as well.

Yeah ofc. But these arent monsters you fight a lot in IB. Using dragon just for them also doesnt seem like it's worth.

For Savage you take thunder mostly.. for ruiner nerg raw . Okay safi maybe. But thats it. Dragon element surely got shafted the most.

At least they are being fair towards dragon bowguns for once. Dragon S has been shafted in World more than ever (it used to be good for a couple endgame fights in older games, like killing G rank Gravios in under 5 minutes with the 9 shots you can carry), thanks to the buffs to the regular elemental ammo. Used cheats to see what would happen if I was able to bring as much dragon ammo as I could any other element, and the end result against Safi was that regular elemental ammo was almost as good, just that Dragon S has Elderseal in it. That's pretty sad, considering how pitiful the default carrying capacity for it is.

[StarExile]

Originally posted by StarExile:

I mostly use 5 types of weapons: IG, DB, LS, GS and Hammer. After quick session with few kills of Kulve, i checked how all those weps looks like in max upgrade...And only DBs are worth something, but still not that great as Safis weapons.
And thats a good thing.
Imagine, we waste so much time on Safis siege, upgrading all those weapons and boom, new monster came out and all our work is complete waste? Not gonna happen.

Safis weapons are way better than Kulve.

Lol i found out that you can custom upgrade Kulve wepons But i am not sure will they beat Safi`s weapons even after that..Havent test it yet.

And you can apply any weapon skin in the game - thats actualy really great)))) I can play Gae Bolg once again! :D:D

[Heehee]

Originally posted by GameSuki:

For me all the kjar bows replaced my safijiva bow builds (5 set safi vs 4set s.rath)
All DBs except for fire replaced safijiva DB (5set safi vs 3set safi+ 2 velkhana) because fire db have really bad sharpness
Ice CB. I haven't tested other charge blades yet.
Seems like most elemental weapons are better on kjarr as a general rule

Kulve Fire DB even with blue sharpness outdps the current meta weapons, only downside is you have to run minds eye.

[TyresTyco]

Since nobody mentioned it. Kjarr crest stream is a direct upgrade to safis ice lance. It's awesome. Just got it.

[Numeriku]

Originally posted by StarExile:

I mostly use 5 types of weapons: IG, DB, LS, GS and Hammer. After quick session with few kills of Kulve, i checked how all those weps looks like in max upgrade...And only DBs are worth something, but still not that great as Safis weapons.
And thats a good thing.
Imagine, we waste so much time on Safis siege, upgrading all those weapons and boom, new monster came out and all our work is complete waste? Not gonna happen.

Safis weapons are way better than Kulve.:roar:

Same with hammer. Tried the kjarr dragon element and elementless sleep one last night. The sharpness loss and slot loss is just too much, and the damage difference wasn't significant enough to warrant going back to using Teo for master's touch.

If you don't mind using Teo though and just want a pure raw elementless hammer then defo look into the sleep hammer. It's just not for me personally.